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daneoni

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2006
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Fascinating tale OP.
Do you feel better about yourself and more validated about your phone choice now?
Aww.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Onscreen and programmable capacitive are better than clunky push buttons that are known to fail frequently, especially on iphones. There is just so many times you can push a button before failure occurs.
I have an S3 with a home button, but I never use it. I have options like ribbon bars, pie control, programmable capacitive buttons, navigation bar and so on to do what I want and how I want to do. And why do you think you would have trouble in the dark without a home button? All of these examples light up. And all can be used one handed.

Never had a home button fail on me in the 5 years I've owned an iPhone.....

I can "feel" the home button. Some of us prefer that feel. But, no you're right - your narrative and view is much more important than anyone else's who doesn't agree with you. Sorry for the inconvenience of my opinion.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Never had a home button fail on me in the 5 years I've owned an iPhone.....

I can "feel" the home button. Some of us prefer that feel. But, no you're right - your narrative and view is much more important than anyone else's who doesn't agree with you. Sorry for the inconvenience of my opinion.

While I respect your preference I'm the opposite. I prefer on screen buttons, especially on a tablet. I like how they move off screen for videos. I also like how the move depending on screen orientation. I also find the home button a bit cumbersome on my iPad because it takes a bit of effort to press it, you kind of need to support the device. I've almost don't my iPad on my face while using it in bed a couple times. Unlikely in on screen button that you can just touch.

I just wish devices were better designed for on screen buttons though. It seems that devices that use them have a bezel big enough for a physical button. What I'm picturing is an iPhone 4/4S in size but a screen that extends down and over the current physical button. I think with proper designing you could get more then a 4" screen on the 4/4S size device then just have an onscreen button that is smaller so you still have all 4" like the iPhone 5. Just my opinion on that anyway.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
While I respect your preference I'm the opposite. I prefer on screen buttons, especially on a tablet. I like how they move off screen for videos. I also like how the move depending on screen orientation. I also find the home button a bit cumbersome on my iPad because it takes a bit of effort to press it, you kind of need to support the device. I've almost don't my iPad on my face while using it in bed a couple times. Unlikely in on screen button that you can just touch.

I just wish devices were better designed for on screen buttons though. It seems that devices that use them have a bezel big enough for a physical button. What I'm picturing is an iPhone 4/4S in size but a screen that extends down and over the current physical button. I think with proper designing you could get more then a 4" screen on the 4/4S size device then just have an onscreen button that is smaller so you still have all 4" like the iPhone 5. Just my opinion on that anyway.

Personally, I hope gestures are the way of the future. I don't remember the last time I pressed my home button on my iPad because of the gestures.

Still want to keep my home button - and ESPECIALLY that physical silence switch - that thing is awesome.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Personally, I hope gestures are the way of the future. I don't remember the last time I pressed my home button on my iPad because of the gestures.

Still want to keep my home button - and ESPECIALLY that physical silence switch - that thing is awesome.

I do like the silent switch. I like how I can silence my phone when its in my pocket or holster.

I could see them eventually moving away from in and just having in the control panel from the lock screen though.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
13,161
3,721
Boston, MA
For the power user, Android will probably always have the better and more advanced feature set. For the payment, which is almost everyone else, iOS7 brought a LOT of things to the table. I really think some people are underestimating all the things that Apple has packed into iOS 7. This really is their best OS yet, by leaps and bounds.

As far as aesthetics, I tend to throw those opinions out the window. Why? because they are going to vary wildly from one person to the other. I know people who loved the "old" iOS UI, and those who loathed it. Likewise there are people who love the new UI and those that hate it. You won't ever please everyone, but I think many will be pleased with this.
 

thehustleman

macrumors 65816
Jan 3, 2013
1,123
1
Android is still best, but if the next iphone has a larger screen I'm switching back for a minute.

Seems like they took enough from android and they are really trying to make their product better.

Johnny Ive should have been running this.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
For the power user, Android will probably always have the better and more advanced feature set. For the payment, which is almost everyone else, iOS7 brought a LOT of things to the table. I really think some people are underestimating all the things that Apple has packed into iOS 7. This really is their best OS yet, by leaps and bounds.

As far as aesthetics, I tend to throw those opinions out the window. Why? because they are going to vary wildly from one person to the other. I know people who loved the "old" iOS UI, and those who loathed it. Likewise there are people who love the new UI and those that hate it. You won't ever please everyone, but I think many will be pleased with this.

Also on aesthetics I'm not worrying about that too much. Background will be set to what I like and a lot of those icons will be put into folders.
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
2,004
0
Also on aesthetics I'm not worrying about that too much. Background will be set to what I like and a lot of those icons will be put into folders.

Sadly the control center, notification center, the app buttons cannot be hidden in folders.
 

Sdahe

macrumors 68000
Oct 26, 2007
1,723
23
San Juan, PR
Android is still best, but if the next iphone has a larger screen I'm switching back for a minute.

Seems like they took enough from android and they are really trying to make their product better.

Johnny Ive should have been running this.

Bigger iphone you say... It's not gonna happen... And Android will keep been better
 

Jibbajabba

macrumors 65816
Aug 13, 2011
1,024
5
No his were not. I am talking about built in functionality of iOS. Of course I've heard of these paid backup programs. I have two Android devices, do you honestly think I haven't tried them yet? And you do not have to jailbreak an iPhone to get the proper backup and restore functionality. Most of those backup programs on Android require a rooted device. Plus you have to pay for them.

A lot of them are available on XDA officially and purchases on play are setup for donations. Worth having a search there.
 

2298754

Cancelled
Jun 21, 2010
4,890
941
As far as aesthetics, I tend to throw those opinions out the window. Why? because they are going to vary wildly from one person to the other. I know people who loved the "old" iOS UI, and those who loathed it. Likewise there are people who love the new UI and those that hate it. You won't ever please everyone, but I think many will be pleased with this.

People are just afraid of change. One of my iOS friends was telling me that he's going to keep his 4S on iOS6 because iOS7 looks worse. Complete crap. Why wouldn't you update to get all the new tweaks and updates.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
14,738
6,109
People are just afraid of change. One of my iOS friends was telling me that he's going to keep his 4S on iOS6 because iOS7 looks worse. Complete crap. Why wouldn't you update to get all the new tweaks and updates.

agreed. If you have an IOS device, I think it makes zero sense...unless of course your are jailbroken and have most of those features and then some.
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
2,004
0
People are just afraid of change. One of my iOS friends was telling me that he's going to keep his 4S on iOS6 because iOS7 looks worse. Complete crap. Why wouldn't you update to get all the new tweaks and updates.

I would not update to ios 7 to lose my auxo, zephyr, ncsettings, pwntunes, ifile, activator, and lockinfo tweaks which are better than control center and the new UI change.
 

The-Real-Deal82

macrumors P6
Jan 17, 2013
17,317
25,469
Wales, United Kingdom
If people don't want to update, it's their choice. That's pretty much it for them though and they won't have the advantages of the new look OS or the features it brings. Those with Jailbreaks won't care but neither will the rest of us welcoming the changes. It's all about choice at the end of the day :)
 

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
14,725
13,245
UK
I don't think Apple has any catching up to do after trying Android. Honestly, after trying a Nexus 7, my iPad has me hooked for life.

I have to agree and I thought this even before iOS 7 came out. I've used 3 android devices and I'm still using 2 of them. The Apple experience is streets ahead IMO. I tried android after my iPhone was stolen right before my upgrade was due, just for a change. After 8 months of trying to get along with it, I got an iPad and iPod touch just so that I could experience iOS again.
 

Rossatron

macrumors 6502a
here's a wild idea: why not accept that some people prefer iOS, some android and some win mobile, and they get what they wait based on it? you think android is better? go on then, switch to an android and stop with all the "m not impressed" whining.
im starting to think that even if iOS7 could display a hologram of siri, which will interact with you in reality, and be able to cook you a pizza, that still would no impress you.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
13,161
3,721
Boston, MA
People are just afraid of change. One of my iOS friends was telling me that he's going to keep his 4S on iOS6 because iOS7 looks worse. Complete crap. Why wouldn't you update to get all the new tweaks and updates.

Beyond me, my friend. I will say, though, that the iOS crowd seems to be the most concerned, in general, with looks. I will never understand how the look of an OS is more important than the function of said OS. But hey, to each his own.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
Onscreen and programmable capacitive are better than clunky push buttons that are known to fail frequently, especially on iphones. There is just so many times you can push a button before failure occurs.
I have an S3 with a home button, but I never use it. I have options like ribbon bars, pie control, programmable capacitive buttons, navigation bar and so on to do what I want and how I want to do. And why do you think you would have trouble in the dark without a home button? All of these examples light up. And all can be used one handed.

Its just my subjective opinion, but a physical button is MUCH easier to use, more accurate and in my experience I've never seen a button wear out, I've got phones that are years old and must have had their home buttons pressed tens of thousands of times. Plus I hate the screen real estate you lose.

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The OS now monitors your most used apps and either keeps them running in the background or pauses them accordingly.

Nice, good to know.
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Original poster
Mar 26, 2010
3,072
689
I think older audiences won't like the new look, mainly because it looks like a cartoon. It's too pastel and generally older people prefer something more straight.

The new look has too much color everywhere. It seems the new design is directed at kids.

Maybe we'll see less iPhone sales from older audiences, which are the main audience for Apple.

The OP must be awfully insecure about Android to have to create a thread like this.

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Fascinating tale OP.
Do you feel better about yourself and more validated about your phone choice now?
Aww.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Bla bla bla bla bla. Boring boring boring.

You two kids are extremely boring. Don't like critics to Apple? Then don't go inside a thread called "Android is still way superior".

Seriously, you people are really boring always with the same answer: trying to validate my phone choice...

For your information, I changed phone and tablet a year ago. A year ago! First I sold my iPhone and then I liked android so much I even sold my iPad. So.............. you two kids are really boring.

Actually, I think you two kids are the ones insecure about iOS, especially after seeing so much negative reactions to the new update, and even more after seeing that you're still pretty far behind everyone else.

Anyways, have fun with your new pastel cartoon-like OS. I'm staying with my awfully bad android :(:(:(:(
 
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Assault

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2013
513
0
in the taint
Its just my subjective opinion, but a physical button is MUCH easier to use, more accurate and in my experience I've never seen a button wear out, I've got phones that are years old and must have had their home buttons pressed tens of thousands of times. Plus I hate the screen real estate you lose.

Screen real estate you lose? Have you seen the size of the bezel required for that huge round home button? It's one of the reasons why the iPhone doesn't even reach the 4" screen size. Huge bezel for that huge home button.

As for home button failures, you know exactly what I am referring to. There are hundreds of threads on how to fix unresponsive and broken home buttons on this very forum.

Look how much bezel is wasted on a home button. Imagine the screen going all the way down and then having programmable, onscreen buttons that are only 45 pixels high (which is normal height for Android), which is roughly 1/3 the height of the bezel shown here. In reality, you gain real estate, not lose it. Just saying.
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