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FYI some of those 87+ wifi devices are well over a decade old. The eMachines tower is from 2008; Galaxy Note 10.1 from 2012; Xbox One (O.G.) from 2014, PlayStation 4 from 2013, and so on and so on.
Come to think of it, it might be due to that! Mixed stuff some from the 802.11A era to the AC era. Also, what the hezmona is this 'Wifi 6' I keep hearing about (actually being advertised at walmart on stuff like tablets/phones. I guess it's another thing I'll be happy to avoid. I'm guessing it's a device with 6 wifi antennas inside it or 6 wifi adapters? Gosh if this is how far gone I am now, I don't think I want to live to be 80 years old.
Today was one of the worst days. Oh, my router didn't die this time. I think I finally fixed it (disabled IPv6. Why is that even a thing? Ever since Vista it only succeeded in killing or slowing my internet down!) But today I had the most frustrating day with my S20 FE. I **HATE** gesture navigation so much!! What problem was removing buttons and forcing odd gestures for everything supposed to solve? Honestly what?! I inadvertently opened Samsung Pay twice, when I tried to go to recents, it went home AGAIN, and to top it all off, the swipe at the bottom that's supposed to swap between your two most recent apps remains broken to this day, always swiping to an app that hasn't been used for over a week! I know I can go to on-screen buttons but even they don't fix the issue that removing home, back, recents (or menu) could. What is with the war on buttons anyway? To make phones more about showing fancy crap to your teenage friends and alienating older folks?! I'm couldn't care less about impressing people around me I just want my phone to do what I tell it to! Heck, I might have to start telling Google Assistant or Bixby to do everything. Perhaps that's the point?
I honestly wanted to pop the SIM into my HTC Thunderbolt again. That's how angry I was today. If I didn't rely on certain things like smart watches or a couple of modern apps like Samsung Pay, That's probably what I would have done.
Come to think of it, it might be due to that! Mixed stuff some from the 802.11A era to the AC era. Also, what the hezmona is this 'Wifi 6' I keep hearing about (actually being advertised at walmart on stuff like tablets/phones. I guess it's another thing I'll be happy to avoid. I'm guessing it's a device with 6 wifi antennas inside it or 6 wifi adapters? Gosh if this is how far gone I am now, I don't think I want to live to be 80 years old.
Today was one of the worst days. Oh, my router didn't die this time. I think I finally fixed it (disabled IPv6. Why is that even a thing? Ever since Vista it only succeeded in killing or slowing my internet down!) But today I had the most frustrating day with my S20 FE. I **HATE** gesture navigation so much!! What problem was removing buttons and forcing odd gestures for everything supposed to solve? Honestly what?! I inadvertently opened Samsung Pay twice, when I tried to go to recents, it went home AGAIN, and to top it all off, the swipe at the bottom that's supposed to swap between your two most recent apps remains broken to this day, always swiping to an app that hasn't been used for over a week! I know I can go to on-screen buttons but even they don't fix the issue that removing home, back, recents (or menu) could. What is with the war on buttons anyway? To make phones more about showing fancy crap to your teenage friends and alienating older folks?! I'm couldn't care less about impressing people around me I just want my phone to do what I tell it to! Heck, I might have to start telling Google Assistant or Bixby to do everything. Perhaps that's the point?
I honestly wanted to pop the SIM into my HTC Thunderbolt again. That's how angry I was today. If I didn't rely on certain things like smart watches or a couple of modern apps like Samsung Pay, That's probably what I would have done.
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Glad I have no idea what you’re talking about Nick.
Gesture Navigation sounds like something that should be in the Accessibility section. I don’t know if Apple is doing anything like that yet.
I don’t use Siri or the Google Assistant.
I have my iPad in Do Not Disturb mode. If I do that on my Samsung, it mutes all audio.
I guess “Fan Edition” doesn’t work for everybody.
I believe most Android devices have the back arrow on the left.
But not Samsung! Took a while to find how to switch them back.
The most recent button is handy.
My iPad still has the big Home button/Touch ID.
No back arrow. Can double tap home for recent apps or slow swipe up.
I find iPad’s split screen hard to use, since I’m mostly in portrait mode.
I guess phone users do portrait mode too.
Our local TV traffic guy said, “turn your phone sideways, because that’s how TV works.”
I believe every feature should have an on/off ability.
I want a device (phone/tablet) that can run both Apple and Android!
Gesture Navigation sounds like something that should be in the Accessibility section. I don’t know if Apple is doing anything like that yet.
I don’t use Siri or the Google Assistant.
I have my iPad in Do Not Disturb mode. If I do that on my Samsung, it mutes all audio.
I guess “Fan Edition” doesn’t work for everybody.
I believe most Android devices have the back arrow on the left.
But not Samsung! Took a while to find how to switch them back.
The most recent button is handy.
My iPad still has the big Home button/Touch ID.
No back arrow. Can double tap home for recent apps or slow swipe up.
I find iPad’s split screen hard to use, since I’m mostly in portrait mode.
I guess phone users do portrait mode too.
Our local TV traffic guy said, “turn your phone sideways, because that’s how TV works.”
I believe every feature should have an on/off ability.
I want a device (phone/tablet) that can run both Apple and Android!
Oh the gesture navigation has been a thing since the iPhone X. It's only more recently that Android tried to copy it. Samsung phones have it forced on certain models, and yeah, you can bring the nav bar back with virual home, recents, back keys. However, it can't replace the true tactile feel of actual home, menu, search and back like old Android had. Plus on AMOLED displays, it can burn into the screen.
Gesture navigation = swipe up for home (from apps), app drawer (on home screen), swipe up, hold for recents (which doesn't always work), swipe right/left to go back, swipe gesture pill icon right to swap your two most recent apps (which is completely broken in Android 12/Galaxy S20 FE). Gestures are supposed to be the 'future' where a buttonless phone might one day exist. I don't understand it either. But then I still don't understand why phones must be 6"+ instead of 3.5-4" either.
The back button on Android has almost always been on the right and where I expect it to be. On certain ZTE/Alcatel phones they tried to swap it to the left which drove me nuts and always changed it in settings. I tend to hold my phone in my left hand and keep it in my left front pocket so the button being on the right makes more sense.
Gesture navigation = swipe up for home (from apps), app drawer (on home screen), swipe up, hold for recents (which doesn't always work), swipe right/left to go back, swipe gesture pill icon right to swap your two most recent apps (which is completely broken in Android 12/Galaxy S20 FE). Gestures are supposed to be the 'future' where a buttonless phone might one day exist. I don't understand it either. But then I still don't understand why phones must be 6"+ instead of 3.5-4" either.
The back button on Android has almost always been on the right and where I expect it to be. On certain ZTE/Alcatel phones they tried to swap it to the left which drove me nuts and always changed it in settings. I tend to hold my phone in my left hand and keep it in my left front pocket so the button being on the right makes more sense.
I did sell the s8 tab ultra. I ordered a ipad pro 11" M1 512gb off a guy. So that will be my tablet, perfect size imho.
How much did you pay for the iPP M1? Need to declutter. List of items I'll keep vs decluttering:
Surface Pro X > ChromeOS > Galaxy Tab S7+ > iPad Pro M1
What I really want, though, is a Surface Pro tablet with Ryzen x64 for battery life.
New Google Tablet on the way in 2023 with the Tensor SOC
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Looking forward to seeing what they come up with. Also curious if they'll have more than one size.New Google Tablet on the way in 2023 with the Tensor SOC
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I sure hope they give it more support than the infamous Nexus 10. That thing literally got one update and it gimped half the features. I'm not going to suddenly trust Google's long term support until they stop killing apps for no reason and ditching support for devices when they're still in their prime. Nexus for example was supposed to get more updates than any skinned version of Android, and the Nexus 10 I bought assuming that it'd be the case but it got one update and key features went missing and they never explained why.
At least when Samsung stops supporting their phones, they still will have far more features than any future device from Google. How long did it take Google to get multi-window again? Samsung had that back in 2012! To this day, there is not one smartphone around that packs as many features both hardware and software as the Galaxy S5. Waterproofing, removable battery, expandable storage, fingerprint reader, USB 3.0+rapid charge, IR blaster, Heartbeat Sensor, Ultra Power Saving Mode, and more.
EDIT: My Galaxy Note 10.1 (3G/Wifi) still connects to 3G! So much for the myth that they'd be cutting me off in 2019, 2020, 2022! Also, my Galaxy S4 Mini still works. I really love that little tiny phone. I just reverted to 2012-13 again. I can't help it! I try modern stuff and it's great for a time then I'm back!
At least when Samsung stops supporting their phones, they still will have far more features than any future device from Google. How long did it take Google to get multi-window again? Samsung had that back in 2012! To this day, there is not one smartphone around that packs as many features both hardware and software as the Galaxy S5. Waterproofing, removable battery, expandable storage, fingerprint reader, USB 3.0+rapid charge, IR blaster, Heartbeat Sensor, Ultra Power Saving Mode, and more.
EDIT: My Galaxy Note 10.1 (3G/Wifi) still connects to 3G! So much for the myth that they'd be cutting me off in 2019, 2020, 2022! Also, my Galaxy S4 Mini still works. I really love that little tiny phone. I just reverted to 2012-13 again. I can't help it! I try modern stuff and it's great for a time then I'm back!
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$769 with Zugucase. Has warranty till 03/23 too.
I have a SP8 I got as well for my desktop/laptop when I need it. It was the i7, 256gb, 16gb model, I upgraded to 1tb. Got that for $800.
Reddit hardwareswap with good traders.Well, time to wake this thread up.
I am the proud owner of the Nokia T20 tablet.
Almost perfect.
The Wi-Fi signal isn't constant and has dropped briefly a couple of times.
The FM radio doesn't work extremely well.
Cameras are what you might expect from an Android tablet.
I don't even believe the base iPad has a terrific set of cameras.
The back camera has a flash and flashlight app.
Gee, just like an iPhone!
Everything else is quite nice. Best tablet ever.
Apps install and update from Google Play quickly.
For the first time, everything just works.
Android 11 received an update.
Not so with my Samsung tablet.
I purchased directly from Nokia and the T20 was discounted.
$200 out the door, making it my least expensive tablet except for the "to good be true" Amazon Fire 10 tablets.
4 GB RAM, which probably explains why it performs well.
64 GB is probably a minimum now.
So for me, the Android tablet is not dead!
I am the proud owner of the Nokia T20 tablet.
Almost perfect.
The Wi-Fi signal isn't constant and has dropped briefly a couple of times.
The FM radio doesn't work extremely well.
Cameras are what you might expect from an Android tablet.
I don't even believe the base iPad has a terrific set of cameras.
The back camera has a flash and flashlight app.
Gee, just like an iPhone!
Everything else is quite nice. Best tablet ever.
Apps install and update from Google Play quickly.
For the first time, everything just works.
Android 11 received an update.
Not so with my Samsung tablet.
I purchased directly from Nokia and the T20 was discounted.
$200 out the door, making it my least expensive tablet except for the "to good be true" Amazon Fire 10 tablets.
4 GB RAM, which probably explains why it performs well.
64 GB is probably a minimum now.
So for me, the Android tablet is not dead!
Tablet cameras. Those 'features' never made sense to me as a tablet is meant for media consumption, plus there's that old tired meme regarding an iPad being used as a camera with hilariously stupid images of folks trying to take photos with iPads at concerts or public meetings.
Also, most of the time tablet cameras are severely downgraded counterparts to smartphone cameras. My 2022 Galaxy Tab A 11" for example still sports a 5MP camera. Hello, Samsung? 2010 called!
Also, most of the time tablet cameras are severely downgraded counterparts to smartphone cameras. My 2022 Galaxy Tab A 11" for example still sports a 5MP camera. Hello, Samsung? 2010 called!
UPDATE: My Nokia T20 is just okay. The Wi-Fi signal isn't constant.
I'm attempting to get answers from Nokia.
All things considered, iPad is still the best.
iPad and iPhone need FM tuners. All mobile devices do.
Just because a tablet isn't a go to camera doesn't mean they shouldn't have a back camera flash. The iPad Pro is even larger than iPad but has good cameras and flash.
Lastly, iPad should have GPS without having to pay for the cellular upgrade.
FM and GPS are important in emergencies and we seem to have them more and more.
Chances are I will be returning the product and staying with just my iPad.
So my final word, Android tablets ARE dead.
I'm attempting to get answers from Nokia.
All things considered, iPad is still the best.
iPad and iPhone need FM tuners. All mobile devices do.
Just because a tablet isn't a go to camera doesn't mean they shouldn't have a back camera flash. The iPad Pro is even larger than iPad but has good cameras and flash.
Lastly, iPad should have GPS without having to pay for the cellular upgrade.
FM and GPS are important in emergencies and we seem to have them more and more.
Chances are I will be returning the product and staying with just my iPad.
So my final word, Android tablets ARE dead.
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Android tablets are fine. I dont know why you bought a Nokia. Well yes i do.....it was cheap and considering you are haggling over $30, you needed or wanted a cheap device because Apple is expensive. Understood. But you can find deals on better tablets.
Its not Android tabs that are dead, its Nokia that is dead.
My tablet has a camera but i pretty much dont use it. 99% of people use their phones for that.
Its not Android tabs that are dead, its Nokia that is dead.
My tablet has a camera but i pretty much dont use it. 99% of people use their phones for that.
Probaly true though they have a place. I do need a new tablet actually but not sure what i want. A Samsung tablet or Surface or Chromebook. Havent researched.
I’m the 1% who only has a flip phone.
I have Amazon, Samsung and the Nokia tablet.
The Nokia was only $180 on sale.
From now on, I will spend more and get more with Apple.
Got my money’s worth already with my $209 refurbished iPad.
They with let me trade it in for $175.
Just saying. Nobody does that.
The Nokia Wi-Fi is bad.
They only allow returns for 15 days.
Nokia is dead to me, but no Android device is good to me now.
Both Amazon tablets are bad.
Samsung okay, but I use it just as a music player.
iPad has an issue or two, but is the best!
I hated the samsung chromebook i bought. My Samsung S7 Tablet is pretty great. My Surface Pro is not a "tablet" in my experience -- tablet "mode" is not great at all -- but i love the lil windows machine. My fav tablets would be the ipad air / ipad pro and then second comes the samsung
If I were to get another Samsung Tablet I'd probably get the S7 just because it's cheaper than the new S8. Don't care that it's a year old.
The Surface would be a combo tablet/laptop as I need a new laptop too and I actually like that it is more a computer than a tablet that can do more and has a detachable keyboard. I'll never buy another Lenovo. My current old laptop is a Yoga(first Gen) and it's garbage.
I've never even played with a Chrome book so no clue really.
The S7 is awesome. And I bought it because it was previous gen. The screen is amazing … better than my 11” iPad Pro. I got mine off Swappa. I legit get an OS or security update like every month. I’m just bummed there is no photoshop or affinity on there yet