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I am a mechanic and I do use an old Galaxy Tab to read PDFs (as well as my SII) and use certain apps for stuff such as OBDII scanning and LED underbody light controls.
Older devices still work fine, and are cheap on the used market. That way if it gets busted at work I just get another one. Or open the drawer full of extras I've collected over the years, much like my vintage smartphone collection at home.
Older devices still work fine, and are cheap on the used market. That way if it gets busted at work I just get another one. Or open the drawer full of extras I've collected over the years, much like my vintage smartphone collection at home.
The S7 is indeed amazing. I'm still using my S6 and it hasn't slowed down yet after 2 years. It might be a bit faster than when I first bought it because when I initially set it up, I activated a Samsung account and had services running in the background, but I recently reset it and DIDN'T activate an account. It was fast before, but the reset gave it a slight boost.
It’ll also not get those all important security updates either. Not worth the risk at all.
You know that 'you'll get hacked if you don't update' stuff is FUD, right?
It seems unfortunate how Samsung is the only decent tablet.
They are expensive just like an iPad.
My iPad is not perfect, but superior to any Android tablet I've used.
It would be nice if Amazon would make a high quality tablet. I like the OS more than Android.
They are expensive just like an iPad.
My iPad is not perfect, but superior to any Android tablet I've used.
It would be nice if Amazon would make a high quality tablet. I like the OS more than Android.
I agree that it is unfortunate that Samsung is the only company making decent Android tablets.
As for being as expensive... it may depend upon where in the world one lives. Here in the US, there are Samsung tablets that are less expensive than iPads.
2 years ago I was able to buy a new Galaxy Tab S6 from Samsung's website, no trade-in, for $329. That price included the S-Pen, 6GB RAM, 128 GB storage, support for micro SD card, AMOLED display, quad speakers. That's iPad Pro territory (quality/performance-wise). (I've recently passed that on to my wife and use a 9th gen iPad as my primary "full size" tablet)
They have a large range of tablets and they periodically run generous sales and also have generous trade-in values. It is not uncommon for Samsung to offer 60% of original price as a trade-in of a Samsung tablet toward the price of a new one.
Given that you said that your iPad is superior to every Android tablet you've used, I'm puzzled as to why you would be interested in a high quality Amazon Fire tablet. Fire OS is a heavily skinned and restricted version of Android. I suppose if one is inclined to be attracted to a walled garden approach, I can see where an Android-based walled garden would be appealing.
I had looked at an iPad at one point, but ultimately decided against it. It's not just the "usual" set of reasons; rather, I looked at how often I would use a tablet and what they cost. Then, I got a really good Black Friday deal on one from Samsung, and I'm pretty happy with it. It's noticeably less speedy than my Galaxy S20 Ultra, but then it's not a fair comparison.
The company I used to work for deployed iPads throughout all their stores. Every doctor's office or anywhere else which uses a tablet in some capacity all use iPads.
Es ist was es ist. 🤷♂️
The company I used to work for deployed iPads throughout all their stores. Every doctor's office or anywhere else which uses a tablet in some capacity all use iPads.
Es ist was es ist. 🤷♂️
I like Fire OS. I just don't like to cheap hardware that can fail in a few years.
All my tablets are 10 inch.
After having leg surgery, I used my tablet all the time for at least a month.
Got into the habit of a tablet being my go to device.
My 2017 Fire 10 has micro USB and the port is sloppy. It still works and I prefer the older version of Fire OS to the newer one, like my 2019 Fire 10. The Google Play Store is easy to install.
It is stupid for Android products to receive so few updates.
My 2019 Samsung Galaxy Tab A is finished with Android updates. 9-10-11 and done.
I'm probably at the end of the road for security updates.
It is also annoying how many apps are not compatible with my device. Doesn't happen so far with iPad OS.
Some apps are miserably stupid and are only designed to run on a phone, but I can still get them.
My 2019 iPad was sold refurbished to me for $209.
"The only way to fly."
All my tablets are 10 inch.
After having leg surgery, I used my tablet all the time for at least a month.
Got into the habit of a tablet being my go to device.
My 2017 Fire 10 has micro USB and the port is sloppy. It still works and I prefer the older version of Fire OS to the newer one, like my 2019 Fire 10. The Google Play Store is easy to install.
It is stupid for Android products to receive so few updates.
My 2019 Samsung Galaxy Tab A is finished with Android updates. 9-10-11 and done.
I'm probably at the end of the road for security updates.
It is also annoying how many apps are not compatible with my device. Doesn't happen so far with iPad OS.
Some apps are miserably stupid and are only designed to run on a phone, but I can still get them.
My 2019 iPad was sold refurbished to me for $209.
"The only way to fly."
If you're lucky you might not be. But all it takes is hitting a compromised website, or an inflitrated ad server, or clicking the wrong link by accident.... in other words, you're playing the lottery.
Don't visit porn sites, don't visit warez/pirate/dark web sites, and don't download crap like BonziBuddy, Butterfly for your Desktop, DesktopGoose.exe, or anything with the name 'Sanic' on it. That's pretty much common sense Internet smarts.
All I visit on my 2012 Note tablet is m.youtube.com. I don't expect to get 'hacked' via that. I also keep javascript turned off for any other sites (you must be aware of JS exploits?)
However, there's a bunch of folks who assume the very day/minute/second an OS/app is 'out of support' that merely being online will instantly turn your PC/tablet/smartphone into a botnet or skynet or something. That's just over-reacting, and very 'futurist' minded. I prefer the UI that fits me, a device that fits my hand, and to me, older software was better than modern bland software today. But I can't seem to shake those who for some reason feel absolutely threatened by someone who prefers their 11 year old smartphone over a new one. That's what I can't grasp. Let me do me and you do you, and we'll all be happy together.
The argument that staying off warez/pirate/porn/darkweb sites is the way to stay safe is way out-of-date. There are so many security risks right across the internet. You can't control how secure your favourite websites are, or their technology partners are, no matter how trustworthy you believe them to be. All it takes is a payload to be slipped in to something you believe is absolutely safe, and your exposed device will potentially be exploited due to an unpatched flaw. It could be a website, an online video, a stream, a messaging app, an email client, or even an innocent-looking image that opens your default image viewer.
You will absolutely reduce your risks if you stick to very specific websites online, the fewer you visit the better. Turning off things like javascript does help too, but it also reduces the usefulness of the internet as many websites lean on it and break without it.
Apps usually lean heavily on technologies baked into the operating systems they were built to execute on. If you are not fixing security holes in those core technologies through OS level software updates, you are opening yourself up to other target vectors that become commonly exploited over time. The number of risks you are exposed to will only increase over time.
It is important to point that even updated devices can be exposed to unknown threats. So even using devices that remain supported and fully patched could still be compromised. I just don't know why anyone would want to add to the risks by using an older device that has an ever-growing list of known unpatched vulnerabilities. I certainly wouldn't encourage anyone to do it voluntarily, regardless of how great I believe their computing skills and knowledge to be.
Until they make a device today that fits my mold (skeuo UI, 4.5" or less screen size, expandable storage, removable battery, ZERO forced updates) I'll stick to what makes me happiest.
IF a site depends on javascript, it ain't worth my time.
I just can't stand modern stuff. It ain't made for me. Everything today looks the same, and has the same bland boring UI design for the last few years. If I'm risking myself (only myself) just to stick to what I'm happy with that shouldn't threaten anyone. I'd be happier if people were free to use what they like without being judged, or told what they should want by someone.
Making fun of people for using an old phone or tablet or Windows XP is wrong. Leave them alone; they're using what works best for them.
They haven't made anything I'd consider an upgrade to the Galaxy SII, or Note 10.1, or Windows Vista. Everything today is a homogenized, impractical (gesture control driven no home button), bland thing with less features. Today people buy what are supposed to be upgrades with LESS features than my Galaxy SII (headphone jack, replaceable battery, expandable storage) and they're paying MORE than the SII cost new! If anything I pity them.
Point is, many complain about updates slowing their device down. I ask why update then? If it worked fine before, leave it be! It's like that joke about the guy going into the doctor's office saying 'hey doctor! my arm hurts when I move it like this' and he replies 'Well, don't move it like that!'
I've heard the same lame 'but you'll get hacked!' argument so many times over the last few years I'm just plain sick and tired of hearing it. I ain't been hacked yet, and the argument is void.
IF a site depends on javascript, it ain't worth my time.
I just can't stand modern stuff. It ain't made for me. Everything today looks the same, and has the same bland boring UI design for the last few years. If I'm risking myself (only myself) just to stick to what I'm happy with that shouldn't threaten anyone. I'd be happier if people were free to use what they like without being judged, or told what they should want by someone.
Making fun of people for using an old phone or tablet or Windows XP is wrong. Leave them alone; they're using what works best for them.
They haven't made anything I'd consider an upgrade to the Galaxy SII, or Note 10.1, or Windows Vista. Everything today is a homogenized, impractical (gesture control driven no home button), bland thing with less features. Today people buy what are supposed to be upgrades with LESS features than my Galaxy SII (headphone jack, replaceable battery, expandable storage) and they're paying MORE than the SII cost new! If anything I pity them.
Point is, many complain about updates slowing their device down. I ask why update then? If it worked fine before, leave it be! It's like that joke about the guy going into the doctor's office saying 'hey doctor! my arm hurts when I move it like this' and he replies 'Well, don't move it like that!'
I've heard the same lame 'but you'll get hacked!' argument so many times over the last few years I'm just plain sick and tired of hearing it. I ain't been hacked yet, and the argument is void.
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So if you don’t like modern stuff then why do you own and use the Samsung FE.
I own it but ain't using it. I tried. Twice. It's frustrating to use. So it's in a drawer. I don't toss things into the garbage because I actually care about the planet, which factors into rescuing old stuff from the garbage and snatching it from thrift stores before it gets tossed because it won't sell.
I also keep it and the other 'modern' stuff just in case LTE ever dies off and I actually need 5G hardware. I truly hope I'm dead by the time that day comes. Or that skeuo finally returns.
"Just because something is old doesn't mean you throw it away"
~ LaForge, Star Trek: The Next Generation "Relics"
I also keep it and the other 'modern' stuff just in case LTE ever dies off and I actually need 5G hardware. I truly hope I'm dead by the time that day comes. Or that skeuo finally returns.
"Just because something is old doesn't mean you throw it away"
~ LaForge, Star Trek: The Next Generation "Relics"
LoL, sorry but...... That is weird. You are an oddball.
There is this thing called recycling that you can do instead of throwing it away.
I have spoken to several people who have owned or managed recycling businesses and they have told me that 90-95% of the stuff that goes into the recycle bin gets rejected and goes into landfills. I am really curious how much of the tech stuff including computers and mobile devices that we send out to recycle, actually gets recycled and what specifically is recycled? I don’t know the answer to that but I would like to know.
I took a 55" TV to Best Buy to be recycled a couple months ago and had to pay them $30. It had a decent sized area that was fading to black. I assume it can be fixed or recycled for parts but I just bought another upgraded 55" version of that TV ( Samsung) for $449.
Wait what? You had to pay them to recycle it ? That’s super annoying considering they are going to make a profit … I’m sorry
Yeah some places make you pay. There was one that didn't used to charge but they do now. Or you can leave it on the sidewalk with the trash, somebody is bound to take it.Wait what? You had to pay them to recycle it ? That’s super annoying considering they are going to make a profit … I’m sorry
Recycling still uses resources (such as power) and there's no current way to 100% reuse any tech via recycling other than to simply keep it and use it.
There's a reason it's called 'Reduce, Reuse, Recycle'. it's supposed to be done in that order. Given the mass of tech that's still useable I see both in the garbage (there's no way to count how many perfectly good TVs I find in dumpsters!) or at flea markets, it's quite obvious we don't need new things; we got enough leftovers to last two decades at least.
Yeah, I am an oddball. Personally I consider it a compliment. I do not conform to the status quo and I prefer to use what makes me happiest. The world needs more oddballs, crazy ones, thinkers, doers. They're the people who change the world. Sadly, today the world prefers to be stagnant, remove features, kill whimsy, make everything bland and homogenized. That ain't a future I want to live in.
The conspiracy theorist in me wants to believe there's a different reason we only have Apple and Android (and Windows) instead of WebOS, Meego, Symbian, and BlackBerry, and it has nothing to do with them failing at all--but to kill any chance at customers leaving Apple, leaving Microsoft, and leaving Google for another platform. So long as people believe they need new software and new things to be 'secure from malware' they will buy whatever is available, and deal with any frustrations later. But had those other OSs and devices remained, they'd have actual choice. Sadly, Google, Apple, MS can't have that. The world can't have whimsy, or Skeuomorphism, or anything unique.
Couple that with Klaus Schwab promoting transhumanism it's starting to feel more like the Borg from Star Trek. Maybe I'm overreacting but I'd rather stay in 2012 forever than live like that!
There's a reason it's called 'Reduce, Reuse, Recycle'. it's supposed to be done in that order. Given the mass of tech that's still useable I see both in the garbage (there's no way to count how many perfectly good TVs I find in dumpsters!) or at flea markets, it's quite obvious we don't need new things; we got enough leftovers to last two decades at least.
Yeah, I am an oddball. Personally I consider it a compliment. I do not conform to the status quo and I prefer to use what makes me happiest. The world needs more oddballs, crazy ones, thinkers, doers. They're the people who change the world. Sadly, today the world prefers to be stagnant, remove features, kill whimsy, make everything bland and homogenized. That ain't a future I want to live in.
The conspiracy theorist in me wants to believe there's a different reason we only have Apple and Android (and Windows) instead of WebOS, Meego, Symbian, and BlackBerry, and it has nothing to do with them failing at all--but to kill any chance at customers leaving Apple, leaving Microsoft, and leaving Google for another platform. So long as people believe they need new software and new things to be 'secure from malware' they will buy whatever is available, and deal with any frustrations later. But had those other OSs and devices remained, they'd have actual choice. Sadly, Google, Apple, MS can't have that. The world can't have whimsy, or Skeuomorphism, or anything unique.
Couple that with Klaus Schwab promoting transhumanism it's starting to feel more like the Borg from Star Trek. Maybe I'm overreacting but I'd rather stay in 2012 forever than live like that!
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That's just the way it is. The world changes, like it or not.
Just don't go shooting up any schools or parades when you get to the point you can't cope with change any longer. Take it out on yourself.
That might be a over the top response but your responses are over the top (over reacting) as well.
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