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Glintify

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I returned my iPhone pro max back to Verizon and got a new note 10 plus 256gb and what a difference! Way more advanced than the iPhone and the screen is freaking gorgeous! Best decision ever. From experience the iPhone is Not what it used to be..
Were you in the 14 day return gap ? I went to verizon also to get a replacement but they had to order mine since sold out everywhere.
 

Hamlet727

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Were you in the 14 day return gap ? I went to verizon also to get a replacement but they had to order mine since sold out everywhere.
Yes 14 day return gap, not worth the lottery effort with so many great phones out there, are you trying another pro max?
 

Ikertxo40

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Had the same issue with my iPhone 8 two years ago. 0 dust / hair in 2 years. Don’t worry.

Was the crack as wide as mine? I can place the tip of an A4 paper inside, althought moving it left and right not easy. I tried to take out some small dust from the crack with the A4.
 

bushman4

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Visited 4 Apple Stores in NYC checked out 21 PRO MAXS AND 20 out of 21 looked yellow. Seems to be a universal problem
 
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Jim McN

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Visited 4 Apple Stores in NYC checked out 21 PRO MAXS AND 20 out of 21 looked yellow. Seems to be a universal problem

Right, did the same in 2 Apple stores in the UK - for my peace of mind - and while there are some variances (some are slightly warmer than others) they are all with a warm tint and especially compared to the previous generation iPhone X.
 

chillip

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Right, did the same in 2 Apple stores in the UK - for my peace of mind - and while there are some variances (some are slightly warmer than others) they are all with a warm tint and especially compared to the previous generation iPhone X.

Did you notice any uniformity issues. Mine is darker on one side than the other but dont want to risk getting into a screen lottery.
 

Jim McN

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Did you notice any uniformity issues. Mine is darker on one side than the other but dont want to risk getting into a screen lottery.

good point. This has not been obvious to me to see any screen really uneven especially since the are all at full brightness.

Also on a side note by comparing my 11 pro (non max) against a piece of paper under a very bright environment or against a white wall I feel that my screen is still too blue with True Tone off.


another side note, I have a colleague who is owning a Note 10+ Which is recognised As one of the best screen on the market (if not the best) and I can see it switching very blue when tilting the phone. This is not as strong as it was with the crazy Google Pixel 2XL screen but nevertheless I can see that blue shift quite easily. So that been said I feel there is absolutely no perfect screen :).

For my perspective the most annoying issue would be to get an uneven screen since it is difficult to get used to it as opposed to a uneven warmer screen.
 
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chillip

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Im going to the store tomorrow night to see what they say. I'm on IUP in the UK so not sure how a replacement would work. I will also check the display models.
 

cbruno4444

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Sep 27, 2019
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Just my experience: Having used my "yellow" 11 Pro for 5 days now - and having gone through 3 returns so far to get a whiter/cooler display (of which none were better) - I think my brain has adjusted to where I no longer see it as yellow. In fact, I booted up my old beloved iP7, and it now appears DISGUSTINGLY blue.

Not being satisfied to trust my own eyes, I installed Windoze, downloaded ColorHCFR, and did some analysis. Using D65 white point as a reference - set against both sRGB and DCI-P3 color gamuts, my 11 Pro screen is about as close to perfectly reproducing sRGB as a screen can get. Attached is the report, at full brightness. To sum it up:

"Yellow" iPhone Pro:
Brightness: 779 cd/m2
100% White Temp: 6571 K
100% White deltaE: 0.7 ------>This measurement demonstrates how different the 100% white point appears on the display, compared to how it should look on the target white point (D65in this case). Anything under 3.0 is generally considered to be imperceptible to the average human. 0.7 is mindblowingly accurate. Any changing of red/green/blue channels, or changing to TrueTone moves this number significantly.

B1.png


There is some minor and insignificant variation between serials--

"Yellow" iPhone Pro 2 (returned to store):
Brightness: 775 cd/m2
100% White Temp: 6646
100% White deltaE: 1.3

And just for kicks - here's my BELOVED iPhone 7 which I thought had the most beautiful screen on any Apple device (but I can't stand to look at it now!):

iPhone 7:
Brightness: 474.87 cd/m2 (3 years old, but still...60% of 11 Pro!)
100% White Temp: 8822
100% White deltaE: 12.6

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This may offer little consolation to those of you who really want a dazzling, cool screen with stark whites, but I do think that those will be hard to come by, and more of an anomaly - since what appeared initially as "yellow" seems to be perfectly calibrated out of the box.
 
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Alex586

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Was the crack as wide as mine? I can place the tip of an A4 paper inside, althought moving it left and right not easy. I tried to take out some small dust from the crack with the A4.
Oh yes, I’ll take a photo this evening
 

chillip

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I'm not to concerned about having a warmer (yellow) screen but more with screen uniformity. Ive had this issue on EVERY iphone i have had but it seems worse than ever on my 11 pro. I wounder if the perfectly uniform screen exists. I mean when on a white page and the whites appear lighter and darker in places.
 

AJAAY

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Anytime I’ve purchased a new iPhone, the screen always looked “warmer” or more muted than the older iPhone. However, the following year when it comes time to upgrade, that same screen looks cooler and “brighter” when compared with the next iPhone I get.
 

garethjs

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Cbruno444 could u do the same test top of screen and bottom. I’m more interested in how much that differs.

Because in not one phone I have I seen the same colour temp top or bottom.

That said someone have an uneven shade just at the bare bottom and some have uneven shade till about half of screen
 
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BarrettF77

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So I'm giving up with my release 11 Pro Max, was going to make due with the screen temp difference from top to bottom but there is dust spec and a slight scratch on 2 of the lenses also that I cannot get past from out of the box.

I've really just gotten so irritated that Apple can even think this is acceptable.

On a positive note, the local store is out and expect more in today from my local apple store and they are being very helpful in cooperating about the matter. I was fully transparent with their back of house over my sensitivity to defects and scrutinizing them. I will add that it is at least nice they are able and willing to do that, when they surely do not have to.
 
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maka344

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Different tints top and bottom are related to the screen coating, I have found.
If you rotate your screen, the other side will then seem warmer/cooler and the original will appear less so. Try it.
Still a defect in the costing but not screen per say.
 

kirk.vino

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Different tints top and bottom are related to the screen coating, I have found.
If you rotate your screen, the other side will then seem warmer/cooler and the original will appear less so. Try it.
Still a defect in the costing but not screen per say.
There are still screens that will appear like that without any rotating/tilting/turning. Some of them have 2 different sides even looking straight on. I would say coating is different indeed, but it affects the screens looking at an angle.
 

thelead

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I’m not playing the exchange game. I returned the phone and will either try again in a month, try the 11 LCD, or just wait until next year.
 
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kirk.vino

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I’m not playing the exchange game. I returned the phone and will either try again in a month, try the 11 LCD, or just wait until next year.
I tried 3 11 Pro's and 2 Max's. They're all more or less the same. My day 11 Pro actually happens to be the best. I freaked out a bit since it's warmer than my X. However, it's at least more uniform and less dingy than the other phones. I compared all these phones for hours. They're all calibrated the same way (different build weeks and different factories). Sometimes it's even hard to tell the difference. Some of them are slightly more dingy or less uniform than the others, but there is no striking difference between them. Also, comparing retail units to display units does not make any sense. Those run on a modified iOS. Their brightness is calibrated differently: it's brighter than retail units at max with Auto-Brightness on, but dimmer compared to the retail units with Auto Brightness turned off on both. It's done on purpose to avoid burn-in on the display units. Therefore, every person here reports the same results when they compare their retail unit to the display ones (oh, it's dimmer with Auto-Brightness on, but my phone is brighter when it's off on both blah blah blah).
I would say unless your phone is extremely uneven, there is no use in exchanging them. The're all calibrated this way, which is not a bad thing, it's just different. I would say my 11 Pro is not as blue/white as my X, but it definitely has more pop to it and the colors appear more saturated.
 

thelead

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I tried 3 11 Pro's and 2 Max's. They're all more or less the same. My day 11 Pro actually happens to be the best. I freaked out a bit since it's warmer than my X. However, it's at least more uniform and less dingy than the other phones. I compared all these phones for hours. They're all calibrated the same way (different build weeks and different factories). Sometimes it's even hard to tell the difference. Some of them are slightly more dingy or less uniform than the others, but there is no striking difference between them. Also, comparing retail units to display units does not make any sense. Those run on a modified iOS. Their brightness is calibrated differently: it's brighter than retail units at max with Auto-Brightness on, but dimmer compared to the retail units with Auto Brightness turned off on both. It's done on purpose to avoid burn-in on the display units. Therefore, every person here reports the same results when they compare their retail unit to the display ones (oh, it's dimmer with Auto-Brightness on, but my phone is brighter when it's off on both blah blah blah).
I would say unless your phone is extremely uneven, there is no use in exchanging them. The're all calibrated this way, which is not a bad thing, it's just different. I would say my 11 Pro is not as blue/white as my X, but it definitely has more pop to it and the colors appear more saturated.
I agree with everything you said and have observed the same. My 11 Pro had a uniform screen and sometimes the whites looked bright and at other times appeared to have a green dingy tint. I just wasn’t happy considering it was north of $1300 after tax and a case.
 
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