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beg_ne

macrumors 6502
Jul 3, 2003
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now they revolutionize mobile computing....by ditching the bad multitasking and go back to stone age single tasking....

doomed indeed.

Prove that Multitasking wouldn't suck on the iPhone. Apparently it isn't so easy since multi-tasking sucked bad on everything that came before the iPhone.

IMO it's better for Apple to limit a small subset of developers / users now. Than to have some shoddy multi-tasking built in that would cause issues with everyone who uses an iPhone/iPod Touch.

Someday there will be enough power and resources available where it won't be an issue to have multi-tasking and that small percentage of developers who HAS to have their app running in the background and that small percent of users who HAVE to use those apps can finally be happy.

If the Pre ever manages to constitute itself out of the ether (with 2 years newer hardware than the iPhone none the less) and prove that it can do multi-tasking well then we can start complaining that Apple isn't keeping up.
 

beg_ne

macrumors 6502
Jul 3, 2003
452
0
And there are many of us who aren't happy about that.

[Update: Nevermind. I'm an idiot...]

I don't agree that there is anything to worry about, Apple isn't going to stop making Macs anytime soon, if ever. The lessons learned from the iPhone only enhance what they do on the desktop not take away from it. Also the money earned from iPod/iPhone also guarantees that they will be a healthy company that will be around for a while also.
 

Sehnsucht

macrumors 65816
Sep 21, 2008
1,165
0
Totally, totally agree. Arrogant people think the iPod is what Apple is all about, they seem to be ignorant to the fact that it started primarily as a computer company over 20 years prior. Then you get people that totally talk crap about Apple whenever you bring up Macs, but they're the very same ones that think they're better then everyone else and flaunt the fact that they have an iPhone - what, do they think it's just coincidence that the logos on the back of it just happen to be identical to the ones on a Mac? :rolleyes:

Oh yes...the iPhone-toting Windows shills...gotta love 'em. And they think I bought my Mac as a status symbol! :rolleyes:

Yes, you can build a PC for TONS less than a Mac. If you're hell-bent on running OS X, then run it. Break the EULA. No one cares.

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It isn't about the EULA. Some of us just don't want to mess with hammering a square peg into a round hole (Hackint0shing) for a multitude of already-previously-discussed-numerous times-over reasons. ;)

:confused::confused::confused: OS X is imminently tweakable. (Is that a word?:p) Just fire up the Terminal and go to town.

I used a number of Terminal commands to win an argument I was having with a guy who claimed that Macs are "toys" and should be marketed as "My First Computer." :rolleyes:

Yes, but if you look at history, you'll understand why Apple is patent-trolling. One major factor of Microsoft taking over the market was because Apple didn't patent their stuff. And the main reason why everybody took IBM-compatibles and ran off with it was because IBM didn't patent their inventions enough.

Number of reasons besides that...don't forget the rebates and kickbacks Microsoft use(d)(s) to draw in unsuspecting PC manufacturers in order to force their non-UNIX-ergo-sucktastic crap OS down everyone's throat. They are the Standard Oil of the 20th and 21st centuries, and they even had a modern John D. Rockefeller (Bill Gates) becoming obscenely rich from screwing people over. They have a sordid history of pulling anti-competitive s**t in their nefarious plot to take over the world, and they have succeeded. Last time I checked, MS's global market share is around 97%. :eek: So yeah, Microsoft is the most evil company in this century so far, closely followed by Google.

This. I don't want to see an Apple dominated world after having lived through a Microsoft dominated world just a few years ago. Microsoft stifled innovation for so long in the dark days before Firefox came into the scene and were truly evil. Apple I figure would be a different type of evil if left without any competition as well.

Apple has no interest in dominating the world. They charge far more than a good percentage of the world can afford, and they know that. That's why they do it. If they wanted to dominate the world, they could have already done it. Mac OS X is stable largely to Apple's supposedly "monopolistic" way of keeping OS X locked down exclusively to Macs. Hackint0shes are cantankerous for this very reason...it's a fish out of water.

Love: The design, the quality & the OS.
Hate: Monopolistic

See post above. :D
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
Your points are valid, but that Dell didnt cost $2000 for the "great apple design."

Exactly. And most likely he has more USB ports than the two directly above each other. There's propably a third or fourth or even a fifth USB port besides those two directly above one another.
 

NoSmokingBandit

macrumors 68000
Apr 13, 2008
1,579
3
Hackint0shes are cantankerous for this very reason...it's a fish out of water.

You really dont seem to know a whole lot about hackintoshing. I built my current rig a while ago (2.66core2duo, 4gb, 8600gt) for about $600 and i have been running Leo on it since the day i bought it with no issues at all. Sure, you have to know what you are doing when you build the machine, but saying that all hackintosh rigs are unstable and "cantankerous" is just incorrect.
 

northy124

macrumors 68020
Nov 18, 2007
2,293
8
3. MS support for me was incredibly bad. The twice I've called Apple (once for an actual problem, which was my fault anyway) they were beside themselves trying to help and they spoke fluent English.
For me Apple's customer service was crap, only phoned them once to ask about a replacement charger as the damn thing melted (and burned my bed covers and duvet, which I didn't complain about once just needed a replacement charger wasn't going to sue or anything) all they could do was say I needed to buy Apple Care and the guy spoke little English and recommended a store in New York not in the UK.

Customer service rating 0.1/5.

I think they are just like any other company now tbh only thinking about themselves and not the customers.
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
Well that's where the future is heading, mobile products, get used to it.

LOL, do you honestly believe he was talking "mobile products"?

Seriously, A "smart phone" isn't Apple's invention, get used to it.
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
What you talking about?

I'm talking about your response to Cassie where you make belief he meant that he didn't liked things "going mobile", where that obviously wasn't the point. It could only have been a point if the iPhone somehow were a first-to-market. Which they obviously aren't. On the contrary. They're pretty much dead last and not even fully featured.

Could it be that Cassie by any chance were talking about the, well, "closed ecosystem" or the limitations imposed on the users, and not liking THAT direction, and it having nothing to do with "the future is going mobile"?

Hmm, now, that's food for thought, huh?
 

brad.c

macrumors 68020
Aug 23, 2004
2,053
1
50.813669°, -2.474796°
I'm talking about your response to Cassie where you make belief she meant that she didn't liked things "going mobile", where that obviously wasn't the point. It could only have been a point if the iPhone somehow were a first-to-market. Which they obviously aren't. On the contrary. They're pretty much dead last and not even fully featured.

Could it be that Cassie by any chance were talking about the, well, "closed ecosystem" or the limitations imposed on the users, and not liking THAT direction, and it having nothing to do with "the future is going mobile"?

Hmm, now, that's food for thought, huh?

Fixed that for you, unless she needs to get used to something else.
 

aaquib

macrumors 65816
Sep 11, 2007
1,496
1
Toronto, Canada
For me Apple's customer service was crap, only phoned them once to ask about a replacement charger as the damn thing melted (and burned my bed covers and duvet, which I didn't complain about once just needed a replacement charger wasn't going to sue or anything) all they could do was say I needed to buy Apple Care and the guy spoke little English and recommended a store in New York not in the UK.

Customer service rating 0.1/5.

I think they are just like any other company now tbh only thinking about themselves and not the customers.

Lol@ the part about the store in New York.

But seriously, call back. All of my experiences with Apple customer service have been nothing short of excellent.
 

aaquib

macrumors 65816
Sep 11, 2007
1,496
1
Toronto, Canada
Well, it's customary to use a "he" when one doesn't know the gender so I don't get why you'd bother "fixing" that for me.

Really? I never knew it was customary to generalize everybody on the internet as a male. Besides, did you ever even look at the name "Cassie"? You could've at least used "they", "them", "there".
 

brad.c

macrumors 68020
Aug 23, 2004
2,053
1
50.813669°, -2.474796°
Well, it's customary to use a "he" when one doesn't know the gender so I don't get why you'd bother "fixing" that for me.

Purplie heart 'tar and a woman's name?

Oh well, sorry for the OT. Please, continue with the insightful discussion. :rolleyes:

Lol@ the part about the store in New York.

But seriously, call back. All of my experiences with Apple customer service have been nothing short of excellent.

Yes, I concur. I've only had one experience with Apple that was less than exemplary, and that was just last week. I was trying to find the serial number of a specific iPod that had been stolen, and it took three calls before I found the right person and combination of questions before they could help.
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
Really? I never knew it was customary to generalize everybody on the internet as a male.
Sheesh. Do me a favour and look it up in a book on usage of the english language.

Besides, did you ever even look at the name "Cassie"? You could've at least used "they", "them", "there".

For all I know, it could be the name of a horse or dog. Unless, of course, you think I should refer to any- and everyone having "Mac" in their name as "it"?

Purplie heart 'tar and a woman's name?

Oh well, sorry for the OT. Please, continue with the insightful discussion. :rolleyes:

I can't see people's avatars. At one point I got fed up with moving avatars, so no avatars.

But again, it doesn't matter. Go use those dictionaries and then go find something real to be offended about.
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
Fair enough.

Offended? Not me. :) Look up "mirror" in that dictionary, though.

Hmm, replying to unfounded accusations such as the ones you two put forth is now the same as being offended? Well, I guess we need to make an addendum to that thesaurus, huh?
 

brad.c

macrumors 68020
Aug 23, 2004
2,053
1
50.813669°, -2.474796°
Hmm, replying to unfounded accusations such as the ones you two put forth is now the same as being offended? Well, I guess we need to make an addendum to that thesaurus, huh?

Chill, dude. If you're going to fight a pronoun correction so tenaciously, you'd have to be reading a thesaurus that pairs "fixed" with "accusation".

Mods, please feel free to thin the thread.
 

sn00pie

macrumors 6502a
Jun 25, 2008
593
0
United States
I kind of see what your getting at. I've been a PC for a very long time, and just recently switched over to Mac (under 7 months ago).

On the PC I was used to doing all these updates, scans and taking such measures on a regular basis to insure that my computer was running well. On my Mac I pretty much open the lid, use it, and I shut the lid and I'm done.

You could say that I find using my Mac boring compared to using a PC, but I still love it and you could not get it away from me unless you offered me a one night stint with Jessica Alba :p

I really don't ever see myself switching back to PC again. Unless I get into like heavy gaming or something and I have no choice.

I've used Apple Customer Support once and was quite pleased with my experience, however, I have never had to send in my unit yet so I haven't had a significant experience with them. *knock on wood*
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
Chill, dude. If you're going to fight a pronoun correction so tenaciously, you'd have to be reading a thesaurus that pairs "fixed" with "accusation".

Mods, please feel free to thin the thread.

I am not fighting the "correction", I am fighting the accusation that came with it. This one and what it implied:

Really? I never knew it was customary to generalize everybody on the internet as a male.

Before that, I simply assumed a small bell would tingle in your heads - hence my "it is customary"-comment - something about the rule of "he". But AFTER that post, you and aaquib (an "it"?) seem to be adamant to invalidate my claim, but at the same time being too stubborn to look these basic things up, all in the name of PC.
 

northy124

macrumors 68020
Nov 18, 2007
2,293
8
Lol@ the part about the store in New York.

But seriously, call back. All of my experiences with Apple customer service have been nothing short of excellent.
I ended up buying it from PC World as I went in to look at some Windows Laptops and I saw the charger for £10 (mislabelled I think but they still had to honour it :) ) so I am happy now but if I get the same experience next time, I'll be p*ssed to say the least I mean come on try to make me pay for Apple Care after the damn thing burnt my covers/duvet idiot (maybe I should of threatened to sue:eek: might of gotten some decent help then)
 
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