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thehustleman

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Don't miss it at all.

I honestly was an iphone fanboy, even when I got my first android I didn't like it at first, wanted to go back but I stuck with it and I'm glad I did.

The user experience is so much better on a high end android than the iphone but i still can't hate the iphone, i could just never go back.

It's like eating crab, steak, and lobster and trying to go back to imitation krab, spam, and Tuna.

Once I got a taste of what a smartphone should and could be I could never go back.

Plus multitasking is so much better now
 

Frankied22

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For the first month I kept going back and forth between my iPhone 5 and N4 but now I just use my N4. It really took me awhile to get out of the mindset of how certain things work on an iOS device and get used to how they operate on a android device. Now I love the flow of how I use my N4 and I find it easier. Multitasking is a big one. Its so annoying on iOS. The bigger screen is obviously a plus and I have no trouble operating my N4 one-handed. Once I got comfortable with the swype feature on the stock keyboard going back to the iPhone keyboard is just a pain. Notifications on android are so much more informative and intuitive. I never went into the notification center on my iPhone because I would also forget I even had notifications. I love that I can just glance at my N4 and know what kind of notification I have. Or just look at my notification light and what color it is.

Being free from Apples garden seems like a pain at first but after awhile you start to realize that is better to be able to use anything you want cross platform.

This point is pretty niche but I recently got a DualShock 3 and love how I can use it to play tons of games on my phone, especially older games through emulators.
 

Sensamic

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Mar 26, 2010
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Ios is so easy to use that it has become dull and plain.

You can't even download stuff on the stock safari browser!! And third party apps to download stuff are just horrible, since there is no shared file browser. Really stupid way of doing things.
 

bmac4

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Could not miss my iPhone 5 less. I tried the iphone 5 after having two nexus devices. I now have the note 2 and I can't see any reason that I would ever go back to iOS. Just not for me. I will say some of the apps are smoother on the iphone, but that really does not bother me at all. Android has everything I could need and to me does it better for me. I can make my android device my phone. The iphone to me looks like every other iphone.
 

cnev3

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Sep 13, 2012
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I've found iOS to be more stable and reliable. I had issues and funky stuff happen on my Android phone all the time. I like how my phone is integrated with my iMac, and my iPad, and how iMessage and Facetime integrates with my friends and family and their iOS devices. But most importantly, I want access to the best library of apps. Content is king. A 0.5" larger screen, widgets and the ability to play ROM's wasn't enough incentive to keep me on my Android phone.
 

bmac4

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I've found iOS to be more stable and reliable. I had issues and funky stuff happen on my Android phone all the time. I like how my phone is integrated with my iMac, and my iPad, and how iMessage and Facetime integrates with my friends and family and their iOS devices. But most importantly, I want access to the best library of apps. Content is king. A 0.5" larger screen, widgets and the ability to play ROM's wasn't enough incentive to keep me on my Android phone.

Was there really an app you had on your iPhone that you use that you could not get on your Android phone? This argument to me does not hold a lot of water. I hear it all the time from Apple fans, but in using both iOS and android I don't find it that true. I had the iphone 5 for 5 months and switch back to android a week ago. There has not been a single app that I could not find on my android. Sure there are more apps on iOS, but more is not always better.
 

mib1800

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I've found iOS to be more stable and reliable. I had issues and funky stuff happen on my Android phone all the time. I like how my phone is integrated with my iMac, and my iPad, and how iMessage and Facetime integrates with my friends and family and their iOS devices. But most importantly, I want access to the best library of apps. Content is king. A 0.5" larger screen, widgets and the ability to play ROM's wasn't enough incentive to keep me on my Android phone.

On Android there are many categories of app that cover a much wider spectrum of application areas that are not available on iOS due to iOS limited capability compared to Android.
 

SeanR1

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Was there really an app you had on your iPhone that you use that you could not get on your Android phone? This argument to me does not hold a lot of water. I hear it all the time from Apple fans, but in using both iOS and android I don't find it that true. I had the iphone 5 for 5 months and switch back to android a week ago. There has not been a single app that I could not find on my android. Sure there are more apps on iOS, but more is not always better.

Android only has 20,000 fart apps, iOS has 50,000 fart apps.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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Was there really an app you had on your iPhone that you use that you could not get on your Android phone? This argument to me does not hold a lot of water. I hear it all the time from Apple fans, but in using both iOS and android I don't find it that true. I had the iphone 5 for 5 months and switch back to android a week ago. There has not been a single app that I could not find on my android. Sure there are more apps on iOS, but more is not always better.

it is not that the apps are not there, but the functionality within the apps is a lot different. Many run smooth and have more features on an IOS device. Facebook and the hue lighting system are the first two that come to mind.
 

bmac4

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Android only has 20,000 fart apps, iOS has 50,000 fart apps.

My point. Why do we need 30,000 more fart apps? 2 was enough.

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it is not that the apps are not there, but the functionality within the apps is a lot different. Many run smooth and have more features on an IOS device. Facebook and the hue lighting system are the first two that come to mind.

I have come across one app that is not as polished on android as on iOS, and that is tapatalk. The notification dont update fast enough, and it is a bit slower. I think The Facebook app is crap no matter what OS you are talking about.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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My point. Why do we need 30,000 more fart apps? 2 was enough.

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I have come across one app that is not as polished on android as on iOS, and that is tapatalk. The notification dont update fast enough, and it is a bit slower. I think The Facebook app is crap no matter what OS you are talking about.

It is much more fluid on IOS and has some little features that are nice, Like flicking a photo up to go back into the news feed. I don't know if you use phillips lights, but you cannot do timers on android, and the connection always times out. That is really important to me since I use it every day. I have used a lot of the apps side by side, and it is just way more polished on IOS...be in starbucks, fandango, you name it. Side by side there is a subtle, but noticeable difference.
 

bmac4

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It is much more fluid on IOS and has some little features that are nice, Like flicking a photo up to go back into the news feed. I don't know if you use phillips lights, but you cannot do timers on android, and the connection always times out. That is really important to me since I use it every day. I have used a lot of the apps side by side, and it is just way more polished on IOS...be in starbucks, fandango, you name it. Side by side there is a subtle, but noticeable difference.

What is phillips lighting? I have At&t uverse and the android app is way easier to use, but both apps just like facebook are crap cause well At&t could care less.

I just think the argument about apps was something that held water back in the gingerbread days. Now android seems a lot more smooth and developers are getting on board. I don't see the side by side thing. I have tried it.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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What is phillips lighting? I have At&t uverse and the android app is way easier to use, but both apps just like facebook are crap cause well At&t could care less.

I just think the argument about apps was something that held water back in the gingerbread days. Now android seems a lot more smooth and developers are getting on board. I don't see the side by side thing. I have tried it.

http://www.meethue.com/en-US
 

cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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I generally find version of an app has more functionality but the iOS version looks nicer and is more pleasant to use.

Especially when it comes to sharing. Dropbox for example has automatic back up on android. It does on iOS as well but you need to open the app which I hardly find to be automatic. Sharing in apps I find much better on android because it feels more uniform, with iOS its hit or miss with what apps I can or can't share with. Like directly from the camera roll you have very limited sharing capability to other apps making it a pain if you find a photo you want to share but then need to go into the app and find it again.

Some apps are nonexistent on either OS. But it's things developers COULD make on Android usually games. However apps that android has that iOS doesn't are apps that can't be made on iOS due to OS restrictions. Wifi analyzer for example, great app for diagnosing and setting up wifi in crowded wifi areas.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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Having been using both for the last month +, I find I will never get rid of my iPhone and will in fact keep preferring it....

I'm getting sick of tweaking my home screen....I can't seem to get it the way I like it and, to be honest, am suffering from having TOO much freedom it would seem....

I guess the things people hate most about iOS (the keyboard, small screen, settings) aren't all that bothersome to me.

I can leave everything on (BT, WiFi etc.) so there's no need to go searching through the settings menu because the battery life is so much better on my iPhone 5 than it is on my Nexus 4.

The keyboard, while pretty slick on the Nexus 4 (I like gesture typing), isn't really a big deal for me as I don't use the predictive text on either hardly at all....I find it more of a pain to stop typing and see which three words Android thinks I'm trying to say and then pick one of those than simply typing it right in the first place (which I generally do).

Using both side by side, its pretty obvious while smooth, Android still doesn't match up to iOS. Project Butter is great, and I wouldn't characterize my Nexus 4 as slow or laggy at all.....simply that my iPhone is just faster. Its like retina vs. non-retina for me....give me both side-by-side and I'd notice. Give me them separately and its not as apparent.

I have other little annoyances on Android - the sharing menus are freakishly long and cumbersome, the default view in email is zoomed in so I can't see the whole thing and navigating the email is a pain, constantly monitoring my battery/apps to make sure nothing is going rogue (although JuiceDefender is great and does a lot of this for me now), and the notification light (LightFlow) is more annoying that helpful.....especially when it blinks for no reason (I get my green light - meaning email - even when I don't have an email sometimes.) Play music is awful (the app itself, not the service which if fantastic), the fact that I have to approve ridiculous permissions for random apps is a pain, and the stock messenger handles picture messages and MMS very poorly...

Of course, there are things that are great about Android.....I like the Direct Dial widgets - probably my favorite widgets and I realize that many of my issues could be changed if I found the right apps to do what I wanted to do....

But that's where I go back to iOS....

I have a wallpaper of my wife and I on my lock screen and a nice picture on my home screen. My apps are ordered and arranged how I want them - I don't need any more "customization" than that. iOS works for me out of the box - the stock email app, while somewhat limited, is much more intuitive IMO. iMessage is awesome and iCloud services (especially cloud backups) are second to none. Not to mention, the display quality on the iPhone 5 is superb (not a fan of AMOLED, and no other LCD that I've seen, save maybe HTC's One series matches the iPhone 5).

There are other things I could say, but this is already too long.....point being:

I'll continue to use both side by side - my work and personal phones are separate (as I like them to be, despite Samsung's commercials) so I'll continue to use both platforms. But unless Apple does something really stupid, I can't see preferring Android - iOS (and the iPhone) are too well built....fluid, efficient and care-free. Onthecouchagain is going to cringe when I say this, but the iPhone, for me, "just works".
 

bmac4

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Having been using both for the last month +, I find I will never get rid of my iPhone and will in fact keep preferring it....

I'm getting sick of tweaking my home screen....I can't seem to get it the way I like it and, to be honest, am suffering from having TOO much freedom it would seem....

I guess the things people hate most about iOS (the keyboard, small screen, settings) aren't all that bothersome to me.

I can leave everything on (BT, WiFi etc.) so there's no need to go searching through the settings menu because the battery life is so much better on my iPhone 5 than it is on my Nexus 4.

The keyboard, while pretty slick on the Nexus 4 (I like gesture typing), isn't really a big deal for me as I don't use the predictive text on either hardly at all....I find it more of a pain to stop typing and see which three words Android thinks I'm trying to say and then pick one of those than simply typing it right in the first place (which I generally do).

Using both side by side, its pretty obvious while smooth, Android still doesn't match up to iOS. Project Butter is great, and I wouldn't characterize my Nexus 4 as slow or laggy at all.....simply that my iPhone is just faster. Its like retina vs. non-retina for me....give me both side-by-side and I'd notice. Give me them separately and its not as apparent.

I have other little annoyances on Android - the sharing menus are freakishly long and cumbersome, the default view in email is zoomed in so I can't see the whole thing and navigating the email is a pain, constantly monitoring my battery/apps to make sure nothing is going rogue (although JuiceDefender is great and does a lot of this for me now), and the notification light (LightFlow) is more annoying that helpful.....especially when it blinks for no reason (I get my green light - meaning email - even when I don't have an email sometimes.) Play music is awful (the app itself, not the service which if fantastic), the fact that I have to approve ridiculous permissions for random apps is a pain, and the stock messenger handles picture messages and MMS very poorly...

Of course, there are things that are great about Android.....I like the Direct Dial widgets - probably my favorite widgets and I realize that many of my issues could be changed if I found the right apps to do what I wanted to do....

But that's where I go back to iOS....

I have a wallpaper of my wife and I on my lock screen and a nice picture on my home screen. My apps are ordered and arranged how I want them - I don't need any more "customization" than that. iOS works for me out of the box - the stock email app, while somewhat limited, is much more intuitive IMO. iMessage is awesome and iCloud services (especially cloud backups) are second to none. Not to mention, the display quality on the iPhone 5 is superb (not a fan of AMOLED, and no other LCD that I've seen, save maybe HTC's One series matches the iPhone 5).

There are other things I could say, but this is already too long.....point being:

I'll continue to use both side by side - my work and personal phones are separate (as I like them to be, despite Samsung's commercials) so I'll continue to use both platforms. But unless Apple does something really stupid, I can't see preferring Android - iOS (and the iPhone) are too well built....fluid, efficient and care-free. Onthecouchagain is going to cringe when I say this, but the iPhone, for me, "just works".

I like that you gave android a try. At least you are not one of those Apple fans that just writes off android without trying. I think the things that make iOS for you so great are the things I hate the most. Not like you when I got my android phone last week I had my home screens set up in an hour just the way I wanted. You like how simple iOS is to use. I would prefer to set up my phone like I like it. I have said it before the iphone feels like I am using Steve Jobs or Tim cooks phone, but an android feels like it is my phone. No one has a set up like I do, so cause I set it up the way I wanted. I think both are great, but what one person likes the other does not. To each his own. If any thing you can say you tried.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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I like that you gave android a try. At least you are not one of those Apple fans that just writes off android without trying. I think the things that make iOS for you so great are the things I hate the most. Not like you when I got my android phone last week I had my home screens set up in an hour just the way I wanted. You like how simple iOS is to use. I would prefer to set up my phone like I like it. I have said it before the iphone feels like I am using Steve Jobs or Tim cooks phone, but an android feels like it is my phone. No one has a set up like I do, so cause I set it up the way I wanted. I think both are great, but what one person likes the other does not. To each his own. If any thing you can say you tried.

I'm still using Android....the Nexus 4 is still my personal phone (while the iPhone 5 is required for work), and I will likely be checking out the GS4 when I am eligible for an upgrade in September.....

I like to upgrade iPhones on the typical two-year schedule so I'll be saving my second upgrade (in June 2014) for the iPhone 6 (or whatever it'll be called).

I never understood the whole "using Steve Jobs's phone thing"....my brother-in-law says this all the time.....so what if Apple has done the research to find out what people most want in a smartphone? Was there some narcissism to being with? Sure....I'm sure Jobs thought, to a certain degree, that he knew what people wanted.....but given the iPhone's popularity, I'd say he hit the nail on the head.....

I also don't believe in that as an excuse for not trying the phone itself out....if you use it and don't like it, that's one thing. I find it ironic that the Android people are always bit**ing out iOS users who say they don't like Android by claiming the iOS user didn't give Android a chance.....same goes the other way.

I took the time to look up how do different things on my Nexus 4.....it isn't at all intuitive to being with (at least not for someone who wants the phone to perform - I suppose if I were computer illiterate, I wouldn't know the difference anyway). As easy as iOS is, coming from Android will require a learning curve too....one people aren't willing push through.
 

bmac4

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I'm still using Android....the Nexus 4 is still my personal phone (while the iPhone 5 is required for work), and I will likely be checking out the GS4 when I am eligible for an upgrade in September.....

I like to upgrade iPhones on the typical two-year schedule so I'll be saving my second upgrade (in June 2014) for the iPhone 6 (or whatever it'll be called).

I never understood the whole "using Steve Jobs's phone thing"....my brother-in-law says this all the time.....so what if Apple has done the research to find out what people most want in a smartphone? Was there some narcissism to being with? Sure....I'm sure Jobs thought, to a certain degree, that he knew what people wanted.....but given the iPhone's popularity, I'd say he hit the nail on the head.....

I also don't believe in that as an excuse for not trying the phone itself out....if you use it and don't like it, that's one thing. I find it ironic that the Android people are always bit**ing out iOS users who say they don't like Android by claiming the iOS user didn't give Android a chance.....same goes the other way.

I took the time to look up how do different things on my Nexus 4.....it isn't at all intuitive to being with (at least not for someone who wants the phone to perform - I suppose if I were computer illiterate, I wouldn't know the difference anyway). As easy as iOS is, coming from Android will require a learning curve too....one people aren't willing push through.

I say the whole Steve Jobs thing because other than changing the background, and moving apps around you can make the iphone look different. It looks like what Steve wanted it to look like. What he thought worked best. Now that is not to say that a lot of people dont like his way because the numbers suggest that they love it, but I would say a lot of people just like it because it has an Apple logo on the back of it.

You are right a lot of android people write off ios without using it.

The battery life you spoke of on the iphone vs the nexus 4. While that may be true for you. I think the iphone 5 battery was not good at all. I think that LTE and bigger screen hurt it a lot more than people want to say. I just could not hardly get a days use out of my iPhone 5. I have had the Note 2 for a week now and have no issues making it through the day.

I really dont miss my iPhone at all. All the polish and lack of learning curve on ios does not make me want to it back.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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The Elephant in the room being that we would all like to put our own combination of iOS and Android on our own phone in varying amounts to achieve the killer phone that only a combination of both platforms would allow.

Well, I can dream, can't I? :D:D
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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McKinney, TX
Don't miss it at all.

I honestly was an iphone fanboy, even when I got my first android I didn't like it at first, wanted to go back but I stuck with it and I'm glad I did.

The user experience is so much better on a high end android than the iphone but i still can't hate the iphone, i could just never go back.

It's like eating crab, steak, and lobster and trying to go back to imitation krab, spam, and Tuna.

Once I got a taste of what a smartphone should and could be I could never go back.

Plus multitasking is so much better now

This is all opinion....I think the iOS user experience is better...well, better for me anyways.

What should/could a smartphone be? I must be using mine wrong.

And multitasking....you mean like how I'm constantly monitoring my apps on my N4 so they don't drain the hell outa my battery?

Like I said....opinion. You can keep your "true multitasking" and "lobster"....I prefer steak to seafood anyway.
 

bmac4

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This is all opinion....I think the iOS user experience is better...well, better for me anyways.

What should/could a smartphone be? I must be using mine wrong.

And multitasking....you mean like how I'm constantly monitoring my apps on my N4 so they don't drain the hell outa my battery?

Like I said....opinion. You can keep your "true multitasking" and "lobster"....I prefer steak to seafood anyway.

You have still not found the app that is running in the background that is killing your battery?
 

LSUtigers03

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I'm never satisfied with the phone I have. If I'm using Android I miss the iPhone. If I'm using the iPhone I miss Android.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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McKinney, TX
You have still not found the app that is running in the background that is killing your battery?

I figured it out....I have JuiceDefender Plus now running as well which does a good job of monitoring my battery (turns wifi on/off, data on/off etc...). Gets me about twice the battery life I would be getting without it.

The stock messaging app still goes rogue every now and again and Google Services uses my battery more on some days than others. Just gotta watch it....

I've heard (and believe) the Note 2 gets great battery life....it should. The thing is huge and can therefore sport a massive battery.....I prefer to get good battery life in a "regular sized" phone (for me, that's 4" - 4.7ish").
 
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