Anyone else here missing their iPhone?

[cynics]

This is all opinion....I think the iOS user experience is better...well, better for me anyways.

What should/could a smartphone be? I must be using mine wrong.

And multitasking....you mean like how I'm constantly monitoring my apps on my N4 so they don't drain the hell outa my battery?

Like I said....opinion. You can keep your "true multitasking" and "lobster"....I prefer steak to seafood anyway.

What apps have you had a problem with running away in the background?

I rarely close apps on android or iOS and I've never had an issue. I like that some apps can run in the background but rarely use apps that do.

I do prefer the way android displays previously used apps. I'm constantly pressing the wrong app in iOS because it has a similar icon to what I'm looking for.

 

[bmac4]

I figured it out....I have JuiceDefender Plus now running as well which does a good job of monitoring my battery (turns wifi on/off, data on/off etc...). Gets me about twice the battery life I would be getting without it.

The stock messaging app still goes rogue every now and again and Google Services uses my battery more on some days than others. Just gotta watch it....

I've heard (and believe) the Note 2 gets great battery life....it should. The thing is huge and can therefore sport a massive battery.....I prefer to get good battery life in a "regular sized" phone (for me, that's 4" - 4.7ish").

Well it is not just the phone size, but the battery is huge. It is not huge it size really it is not big at all.

When I used my Galaxy nexus I never had a problem with the messaging app which is weird it is running the battery. Also unless you use Google now then you can turn it off and that might help with Google search running all the time.

 

[jrswizzle]

What apps have you had a problem with running away in the background?

I rarely close apps on android or iOS and I've never had an issue. I like that some apps can run in the background but rarely use apps that do.

I do prefer the way android displays previously used apps. I'm constantly pressing the wrong app in iOS because it has a similar icon to what I'm looking for.

The stock messenger and Google's services have been the two main culprits....even when I know I'm not sending a message or using any of Google's Services....

I have it under control now - probably did something I shouldn't have or toggled something I didn't realize....

The only time I've experienced "unexplained" battery drain on my iPhone was when my 4S had a faulty processor that never went to sleep....Apple promptly gave me a new one.

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Well it is not just the phone size, but the battery is huge. It is not huge it size really it is not big at all.

When I used my Galaxy nexus I never had a problem with the messaging app which is weird it is running the battery. Also unless you use Google now then you can turn it off and that might help with Google search running all the time.

Well, not exactly.....I have Google Now on and it doesn't drain battery like crazy every day....its sporadic. I don't use it so I probably should just turn it off....

 

[bmac4]

The stock messenger and Google's services have been the two main culprits....even when I know I'm not sending a message or using any of Google's Services....

I have it under control now - probably did something I shouldn't have or toggled something I didn't realize....

The only time I've experienced "unexplained" battery drain on my iPhone was when my 4S had a faulty processor that never went to sleep....Apple promptly gave me a new one.

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Well, not exactly.....I have Google Now on and it doesn't drain battery like crazy every day....its sporadic. I don't use it so I probably should just turn it off....

Yea it is one of the highest battery drainer for me too, but my note has such a big battery it does not matter. If you are battery life was better then would you like the phone more or is more of your taste for iOS

 

[jrswizzle]

Yea it is one of the highest battery drainer for me too, but my note has such a big battery it does not matter. If you are battery life was better then would you like the phone more or is more of your taste for iOS

Battery life is just an annoyance for me....generally speaking I make it through the day just fine on both phones and I always charge every night....

I prefer iOS for a myriad of others reasons - most of which I recognize as my own personal preference. Though there are some legitimate things iOS does better than Android - same as there are some things Android does better than iOS.

 

[bmac4]

Battery life is just an annoyance for me....generally speaking I make it through the day just fine on both phones and I always charge every night....

I prefer iOS for a myriad of others reasons - most of which I recognize as my own personal preference. Though there are some legitimate things iOS does better than Android - same as there are some things Android does better than iOS.

Yea I would prefer android even if all some apps are not as polished. It just all depends on how you want go about getting things done. They both get the same things done just in different ways.

 

[jrswizzle]

Yea I would prefer android even if all some apps are not as polished. It just all depends on how you want go about getting things done. They both get the same things done just in different ways.

Very true.

 

[0dev]

Although I prefer Android, I will be the first to admit that iPhones tend to have superior battery life to Android phones. Partly I think this is because Apple is far more conservative with their hardware - obviously an outdated dual core processor will use less power than the lastest cutting edge eight core CPU - but another thing is that Apple's battery technology itself is also quite impressive last time I checked.

I wish Android device makers would invest more in battery technology too because they really need it. I wouldn't mind having a slightly thicker phone if it meant better battery life.

 

[jrswizzle]

Although I prefer Android, I will be the first to admit that iPhones tend to have superior battery life to Android phones. Partly I think this is because Apple is far more conservative with their hardware - obviously an outdated dual core processor will use less power than the lastest cutting edge eight core CPU - but another thing is that Apple's battery technology itself is also quite impressive last time I checked.

I wish Android device makers would invest more in battery technology too because they really need it. I wouldn't mind having a slightly thicker phone if it meant better battery life.

I wouldn't call Apple's dual core processors "outdated"....especially considering they hold their own with the latest (talking 2012) quad cores out there....

We will see what 2013 holds....but Apple typically tightly integrates the software and hardware for maximum efficiency....I think that has a lot to do with their battery life superiority.

 

[cynics]

I wouldn't call Apple's dual core processors "outdated"....especially considering they hold their own with the latest (talking 2012) quad cores out there....

We will see what 2013 holds....but Apple typically tightly integrates the software and hardware for maximum efficiency....I think that has a lot to do with their battery life superiority.

Not only that but if you have a processor that handles everything you can throw at it there is no need for something that is faster if it compromises something else (battery).

I will admit that gimping the hardware can limit the software especially for games but I don't think the software is there yet.

I'm content with my 4S. Any lag I experience is software related. Usually something new that starts lagging like the message app has currently been for that couple weeks.

 

[thehustleman]

This is all opinion....I think the iOS user experience is better...well, better for me anyways.

What should/could a smartphone be? I must be using mine wrong.

And multitasking....you mean like how I'm constantly monitoring my apps on my N4 so they don't drain the hell outa my battery?

Like I said....opinion. You can keep your "true multitasking" and "lobster"....I prefer steak to seafood anyway.

What could /should a smartphone be?

Free to do with it as you choose. If you don't like the default keyboard. (the default on the galaxy S III SUCKED royally, but i switched to swift key and is now the best keyboard I've ever used.

If you don't like the default browser, you should be able to change it.

If you don't like the sms app you should be free to change it

Should never be locked down on your own phone.

Before someone says" but iphone is simple " so is a galaxy s III. And options doesn't equate to complex. If you don't want to use an option, don't, period.

But the option should always be there

As far as multitasking, on iOS you open a few apps, but when you go back to another you have to wait for it to load, meanwhile on Android you go back to an app you had open and it picks up right where you left off.

THAT IS what multitasking is supposed to do.

I don't have a problem with battery drain

 

[jrswizzle]

What could /should a smartphone be?

Free to do with it as you choose. If you don't like the default keyboard. (the default on the galaxy S III SUCKED royally, but i switched to swift key and is now the best keyboard I've ever used.

If you don't like the default browser, you should be able to change it.

If you don't like the sms app you should be free to change it

Should never be locked down on your own phone.

Before someone says" but iphone is simple " so is a galaxy s III. And options doesn't equate to complex. If you don't want to use an option, don't, period.

But the option should always be there

As far as multitasking, on iOS you open a few apps, but when you go back to another you have to wait for it to load, meanwhile on Android you go back to an app you had open and it picks up right where you left off.

THAT IS what multitasking is supposed to do.

I don't have a problem with battery drain

Ehh, since the browser and iMessage work perfectly for me I feel no need to change them.....on the other hand, since the stock messenger sucks on Android, I can see that. Keyboards, sure - I like gesture typing, though that's about it.....

I'd prefer Apple give me a polished base and let me add apps to do certain tasks as opposed to Android giving me "crap" and saying do whatever you want with it....

That being said, I think the keyboard will either be updated or opened up to change and the default apps thing will also change. Like I said though....for me it would help if iOS offered crappier defaults or Android offered better ones....then I'd be more for the change. On iOS I simply don't have to worry about Googling what the best email client is and downloading it (many times paying a small amount to get it). That's where a big part of my preference lies.

*EDIT*: And by the way - I bolded the part that simply isn't true. I just unlocked my iPhone and started clicking random apps in my multitasking bar....every single one of them popped up at the point I left them - of course, some (like my sports app) had to load new scores, but to say you have to wait for iOS to load apps you were previously in is complete horse manure....

People simply don't care to take the time to actually use iOS/iPhone and then bit** and moan about how its so restricted....and then they berrate others for moaning about Android and not having tried it long enough!.....its laughable really.

 

[bmac4]

What could /should a smartphone be?

Free to do with it as you choose. If you don't like the default keyboard. (the default on the galaxy S III SUCKED royally, but i switched to swift key and is now the best keyboard I've ever used.

If you don't like the default browser, you should be able to change it.

If you don't like the sms app you should be free to change it

Should never be locked down on your own phone.

Before someone says" but iphone is simple " so is a galaxy s III. And options doesn't equate to complex. If you don't want to use an option, don't, period.

But the option should always be there

As far as multitasking, on iOS you open a few apps, but when you go back to another you have to wait for it to load, meanwhile on Android you go back to an app you had open and it picks up right where you left off.

THAT IS what multitasking is supposed to do.

I don't have a problem with battery drain

Here is the problem with all this. Sure me and you prefer android and the openness of it, but until Apple stops sells millions on top of millions of iphones things will not change. Why would Apple? Like I said before if is all about what you prefer. We could argue for android all day long, but really what good does it do? Same goes for other side of the argument. They are not going to change the way we feel about Android.

 

[cnev3]

Was there really an app you had on your iPhone that you use that you could not get on your Android phone? This argument to me does not hold a lot of water. I hear it all the time from Apple fans, but in using both iOS and android I don't find it that true. I had the iphone 5 for 5 months and switch back to android a week ago. There has not been a single app that I could not find on my android. Sure there are more apps on iOS, but more is not always better.

I use Garage Band, FL Studio, and Amplitube daily. As well as iTunes U. Street Fighter Volt is probably my #1 fav game, since competing online never gets old. As well as countless other games. Infinity Blade 2, Chinatown Wars, Little Inferno to name a few.

Quantity is not the issue. Both app stores have more apps than any person could try in a lifetime. iOS has the best apps. Content is king.

 

[bmac4]

I used Garage Band, FL Studio, and Amplitube daily. As well as iTunes U. Street Fighter Volt is probably my #1 fav game, since competing online never gets old. As well as countless other games. Infinity Blade 2, Chinatown Wars, Little Inferno to name a few.

Quantity is not the issue. Both app stores have more apps than any person could try in a lifetime. iOS has the best apps. Content is king.

Oh so your opinion is final? So not matter what people think all that matters is what you think. I don't play games on my phone, so I can't say that iOS has better apps. But it seems it does not matter what I think because "iOS has best apps. Content is king."

 

[HimOffTheTelly]

While I am a happy Android user I do get silly when some of my fave old iOS apps finally make the leap over to the little green fella. Flipboard was a major case in point. But there are still iOS apps I miss today. Propellerheads. Tekken Bowl. The Brian Eno ambient music apps Bloom and Air. Soul Calibur. The overall experience of Android fortunately overides the need for these apps so its a small price to pay overall - but reason enough to get an iPod soon lol.

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And I forgot to mention Vidrhythm. And Grooverider. Yes, I think its time to get an iPod

 

[thehustleman]

Ehh, since the browser and iMessage work perfectly for me I feel no need to change them.....on the other hand, since the stock messenger sucks on Android, I can see that. Keyboards, sure - I like gesture typing, though that's about it.....

I'd prefer Apple give me a polished base and let me add apps to do certain tasks as opposed to Android giving me "crap" and saying do whatever you want with it....

That being said, I think the keyboard will either be updated or opened up to change and the default apps thing will also change. Like I said though....for me it would help if iOS offered crappier defaults or Android offered better ones....then I'd be more for the change. On iOS I simply don't have to worry about Googling what the best email client is and downloading it (many times paying a small amount to get it). That's where a big part of my preference lies.

*EDIT*: And by the way - I bolded the part that simply isn't true. I just unlocked my iPhone and started clicking random apps in my multitasking bar....every single one of them popped up at the point I left them - of course, some (like my sports app) had to load new scores, but to say you have to wait for iOS to load apps you were previously in is complete horse manure....

People simply don't care to take the time to actually use iOS/iPhone and then bit** and moan about how its so restricted....and then they berrate others for moaning about Android and not having tried it long enough!.....its laughable really.

No, what I said IS true.

How about we place a wager on that?

I'll shoot a video proving my point if you'd like.

Open an app and there is a hesitation. On android it pops right back up.

I played grand theft auto, spades, and a few other apps and they are having to load BEFORE they can continue to be used.


Also I have taken the time to use an iphone, i used to be an iphone fanboy I swore it was the phone that can do anything and things no other phone could do, but someone convinced me to try a high end android and then I was proven wrong.

So no, I'm not someone who hasn't taken the time to use it.

And the stock apps on Android aren't crap, there are just better options out there.

But the iphone keyboard is crap, it's better than the stock prior to jellybean android keyboard, but nothing beats swift key.


The keyboard ruins just about anything typed.

If I try to type the word "same" it always shows up as se.

The m key is always registered as a delete no matter how long I do it.

Too complex for a phone keyboard.

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Here is the problem with all this. Sure me and you prefer android and the openness of it, but until Apple stops sells millions on top of millions of iphones things will not change. Why would Apple? Like I said before if is all about what you prefer. We could argue for android all day long, but really what good does it do? Same goes for other side of the argument. They are not going to change the way we feel about Android.

You would think that since android is outselling your phones you would take some cues from android and steal some (more) features

 

[nestafaria]

Not at all -- every time I use my fiance's I'm reminded even more how much I like my android phone.

 

[bmac4]

No, what I said IS true.

How about we place a wager on that?

I'll shoot a video proving my point if you'd like.

Open an app and there is a hesitation. On android it pops right back up.

I played grand theft auto, spades, and a few other apps and they are having to load BEFORE they can continue to be used.


Also I have taken the time to use an iphone, i used to be an iphone fanboy I swore it was the phone that can do anything and things no other phone could do, but someone convinced me to try a high end android and then I was proven wrong.

So no, I'm not someone who hasn't taken the time to use it.

And the stock apps on Android aren't crap, there are just better options out there.

But the iphone keyboard is crap, it's better than the stock prior to jellybean android keyboard, but nothing beats swift key.


The keyboard ruins just about anything typed.

If I try to type the word "same" it always shows up as se.

The m key is always registered as a delete no matter how long I do it.

Too complex for a phone keyboard.

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You would think that since android is outselling your phones you would take some cues from android and steal some (more) features

What are you talking about. I am using an android phone. Check you facts first.

 

[jrswizzle]

No, what I said IS true.

How about we place a wager on that?

I'll shoot a video proving my point if you'd like.

Open an app and there is a hesitation. On android it pops right back up.

I played grand theft auto, spades, and a few other apps and they are having to load BEFORE they can continue to be used.

Go ahead - I did the same (not with games, but with apps I use on a regular basis that were in my multitasking bar). I experienced no lag (other than those that were updating the info shown....why would I want to see old info if there's new available) and each took me right back to where I was....no matter how deep into the app. I'd love to see your video. I'd also be curious what iPhone you experience the lag on....I'm using an iPhone 5.

Also I have taken the time to use an iphone, i used to be an iphone fanboy I swore it was the phone that can do anything and things no other phone could do, but someone convinced me to try a high end android and then I was proven wrong.

So no, I'm not someone who hasn't taken the time to use it.

Would you like a cookie?

And the stock apps on Android aren't crap, there are just better options out there.

So why should I be given sub-par options right off the bat? When paying for a smartphone, why should I need to do leg work to find a decent working option for some pretty basic apps.....sure I expect there to be different options based on preferences and such, but I'm talking pretty basic stuff...like having trouble sending MMS (or receiving/recognizing multiple pictures)....don't even get me started with the email clients....I have a gmail app and an email app....two apps for the same purpose. Plus every other decent client out there has the same issue....I get a zoomed in version of my email with no way to see the whole thing at once....

But the iphone keyboard is crap, it's better than the stock prior to jellybean android keyboard, but nothing beats swift key.


The keyboard ruins just about anything typed.

If I try to type the word "same" it always shows up as se.

The m key is always registered as a delete no matter how long I do it.

Too complex for a phone keyboard

So you blame your poor typing on the keyboard itself? I've already stated I like the gesture typing of the new 4.2 keyboard.....but rarely ever use the predictive suggestions as I find it too cumbersome to stop and look at them to choose one.....I've never had a problem with typing on my iPhone keyboard....it does learn where you tend to hit the buttons so I'd wager you simply tend to hit the delete key close to the "M" and it learned this behavior from you.

 

[thehustleman]

What are you talking about. I am using an android phone. Check you facts first.

Android is the number one most sold smartphones in the world, already checked those facts

 

[jrswizzle]

Android is the number one most sold smartphones in the world, already checked those facts

You're arguing with a guy who uses and prefers Android....

I think you meant to direct those posts at me.

 

[thehustleman]

Go ahead - I did the same (not with games, but with apps I use on a regular basis that were in my multitasking bar). I experienced no lag (other than those that were updating the info shown....why would I want to see old info if there's new available) and each took me right back to where I was....no matter how deep into the app. I'd love to see your video. I'd also be curious what iPhone you experience the lag on....I'm using an iPhone 5.



Would you like a cookie?



So why should I be given sub-par options right off the bat? When paying for a smartphone, why should I need to do leg work to find a decent working option for some pretty basic apps.....sure I expect there to be different options based on preferences and such, but I'm talking pretty basic stuff...like having trouble sending MMS (or receiving/recognizing multiple pictures)....don't even get me started with the email clients....I have a gmail app and an email app....two apps for the same purpose. Plus every other decent client out there has the same issue....I get a zoomed in version of my email with no way to see the whole thing at once....



So you blame your poor typing on the keyboard itself? I've already stated I like the gesture typing of the new 4.2 keyboard.....but rarely ever use the predictive suggestions as I find it too cumbersome to stop and look at them to choose one.....I've never had a problem with typing on my iPhone keyboard....it does learn where you tend to hit the buttons so I'd wager you simply tend to hit the delete key close to the "M" and it learned this behavior from you.

Here's the video

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=6iM53ak5bSE&


Also don't try to say I have "poor typing " that's laughable.

When I had am evo 4g,there were flaws in that phone but guess what? Not in typing. The keyboard was great and I could speed text as I do whenever I'm on here.

But soon as I got the iphone that's when it happened.

If it doesn't happen on any other keyboard EXCEPT iOS, then it's not the user, it's the keyboard. If it was the user the sender error would happen on every keyboard.

Main reason I left iphone is just what you said, subpar basic apps.
Not hating on the app store because overall I will admit it's superior in polish, but the native apps leave a lot to be desired.

 

[cynics]

Ehh, since the browser and iMessage work perfectly for me I feel no need to change them.....on the other hand, since the stock messenger sucks on Android, I can see that. Keyboards, sure - I like gesture typing, though that's about it.....

I'd prefer Apple give me a polished base and let me add apps to do certain tasks as opposed to Android giving me "crap" and saying do whatever you want with it....

That being said, I think the keyboard will either be updated or opened up to change and the default apps thing will also change. Like I said though....for me it would help if iOS offered crappier defaults or Android offered better ones....then I'd be more for the change. On iOS I simply don't have to worry about Googling what the best email client is and downloading it (many times paying a small amount to get it). That's where a big part of my preference lies.

*EDIT*: And by the way - I bolded the part that simply isn't true. I just unlocked my iPhone and started clicking random apps in my multitasking bar....every single one of them popped up at the point I left them - of course, some (like my sports app) had to load new scores, but to say you have to wait for iOS to load apps you were previously in is complete horse manure....

People simply don't care to take the time to actually use iOS/iPhone and then bit** and moan about how its so restricted....and then they berrate others for moaning about Android and not having tried it long enough!.....its laughable really.

iOS closes apps based on memory requirements. That is iOS 101.

If you don't need the memory they won't close. I just pulled up tapatalk and it had to reload because I was playing plants vs zombies and then browsing YouTube.

I can pull a link from apple if you think that's fantasy. But in reality if you never seen a webpage reload in safari after not using safari for a while then you've never used iOS.

Edit. Btw Android does the same thing. I even think iOS is better at this unless you get a device with 2gb ram.

 

[jrswizzle]

iOS closes apps based on memory requirements. That is iOS 101.

If you don't need the memory they won't close. I just pulled up tapatalk and it had to reload because I was playing plants vs zombies and then browsing YouTube.

I can pull a link from apple if you think that's fantasy. But in reality if you never seen a webpage reload in safari after not using safari for a while then you've never used iOS.

I browsed MacRumors last night....pulled it up this morning and it was still on the same page I browsed last night.....

Maybe I'm not using enough memory to warrant a reload? I also don't open more than 2-3 tabs at a time.... generally just one.