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anyone else upset the screen doesn't till back more?
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This has been an "issue" since the non-unibody MBP days. I participated in a discussions or two about this same thing. So this is not as stupid as most of you guys think.
I've just learned to adjust and live with it and adjust. But I would definitely like it to tilt a few degrees further back.
I've just learned to adjust and live with it and adjust. But I would definitely like it to tilt a few degrees further back.
To be fair, I've used a laptop in a lab situation, where I was moving the computer from table to table, and it helped that the display opened up further. My ThinkPad opens up 180 degrees.
However, I agree that no one *should* be doing that regularly, as it's ergonomically terrible. Better to keep the computer on a higher table for use while standing, or to sit in a chair when using it.
At the end of the day, though, the entire clamshell laptop form factor is ergonomically terrible. Ergonomics is a sacrifice you make to use a laptop, and the MacBook is one of the most portable laptops there is. If they had to limit the range of opening in order to get the design that they did, I think it's a fair trade off.
I don't have mine yet, but agree that it would be nice for it to open further. The reason I get problems with this (and did with the rMBP) is if you're sitting on the sofa with your knees bent it's easier to type, but the screen then needs to open close to 180 degrees to make it easily visible. An unusual use case, perhaps, but one that would be nice to have.
Unfortunately, not everyone sits at a desk for 8-9 hours a day at optimal viewing angles. This is a laptop. It travels. It gets used in various locations that a regular desktop doesn't. Sometimes youre standing using the laptop on a low desk and the extra tilt is needed (charging station at an airport?).
Just because the laptop is not used the way you think it should be used, doesn't mean "nobody works in these conditions."
Again, this is not a deal breaker. It's just a slight annoyance that I've learned to adjust. But I'd rather the macbook screen adjust
Unfortunately, not everyone sits at a desk for 8-9 hours a day at optimal viewing angles. This is a laptop. It travels. It gets used in various locations that a regular desktop doesn't. Sometimes youre standing using the laptop on a low desk and the extra tilt is needed (charging station at an airport?).
Just because the laptop is not used the way you think it should be used, doesn't mean "nobody works in these conditions."
Again, this is not a deal breaker. It's just a slight annoyance that I've learned to adjust. But I'd rather the macbook screen adjust
Charging station at an airport? I spend half my life on planes and in airports. I've never seen a charging station that isn't a high table or bar.
In any event, you're bringing up an issue that affects such a small percentage of people, and such a small percentage of those people's time. The battery lasts 9 hours, if you can't put off charging until it's ergonomic, I dunno what to tell you. Maybe it's not the right laptop for you? Clearly there's no mass rioting because of it.
Thank you, this is a realistic real world example. You just don't know when you'll need the extra tilt. Not everyone uses a laptop at a sitdown desk. that's why it's a laptop!
I also agree with your point on the ergonomics of a laptop. They're just poor to begin with. But being able to tilt the thing further back will help.
im an immunobiologist and a professor, i work in a lab setting..lab tables are considerably low and i am on my feet most of the day so looking down on the laptop would be easier if it opened wider...so to you people who say there is no need for it to open further speak for yourselves ..it makes a huge difference for people working in a lab setting or in a place where they are on their feet and looking down on a table during a presentation or lecture
Been a while since I was in school, but every lab environment I've been to in an educational or corporate environment has high tables. Never seen one with low tables. It's not ergonomic, and causes workers comp claims from employees.
See the responses above about the lab environment for a better example. There will be times when the laptop is place in different locations that will require more tilt. The point is, that this is a laptop. It doesnt always spend its life in a office environment where everything is ergonomic.
Again, see my response where I said, it's been an "issue" since the non-unibody MBP days. Not a deal breaker, but would definitely nice to have. It's not like people need it to lay flat, but a few extra degrees would be nice.
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so your lab table was 6 feet high? how did you use a microscope seeing that you have to look down into one?
This thread made me giggle, so to tie it off I thought I'd bring this up:
There is no such thing as a "laptop". Go check any OEM site [Apple, Dell, HP, etc] you won't find a single "laptop" for sale.
It's called "notebook" now, mostly due to fear of hot coffee lawsuits over warm processors contacting bare skin.
Just a small bit of trivia.
Also:
Best statement *EVER* ^^
There is no such thing as a "laptop". Go check any OEM site [Apple, Dell, HP, etc] you won't find a single "laptop" for sale.
It's called "notebook" now, mostly due to fear of hot coffee lawsuits over warm processors contacting bare skin.
Just a small bit of trivia.
Also:
Best statement *EVER* ^^
Because you're bringing up an issue that doesn't affect 99% of users.... and to most, it's a silly issue. Don't like it? You can't change the Macbook, so move on to another product.
Well believe it or not, there are table that are lower than that. And believe it or not, people use their laptops on these tables while standing...for various reasons.
stop being so defensive...
elbow height? where did you get this information that is wrong? elbow height is different for someone who's 5 feet tall then someone who is 6 or 7 feet....do you even work in a lab?
who says i didn't like it ...all i said was i wish it opened up further and was wondering if all MacBooks have been made this way since 2008...did i ever mention it was a deal breaker? is apple paying you to defend their products so compassionately like its your own child?
my best buy has 3 silver ones in stock...been there for 4 days now....doesnt seem like much hype for these in my area.
been thinking about putting one on my CC to try it...theoretically its a free trial without any "outflow" of money.
been thinking about putting one on my CC to try it...theoretically its a free trial without any "outflow" of money.
has the same tilt availability as my 2014 macbook air, so not sure what you're talking about.