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Apple Announces New iPad Pro With M4 Chip, OLED Display, and More
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It will still be a lot faster in single-core, and somewhat faster in multicore.
I was going to say that you're astoundingly ignorant, but what's really astounding is that so many people are walking around thinking this is true. So it's not surprising to find one more.
The M3 is a significant upgrade, not at all lackluster. The M2 was, in some ways, closer to your description (a "rebrand"), but in other ways a more substantial improvement. I won't rehash this here - the M3 thread has a lot written about this already.
What a ridiculous claim. The processors are not designed for bursty workloads. iPhones are, necessarily, and to some extent iPads are too (though less so, and even less now with the copper and graphite).
No, it's entirely different. In fact it's likely by far the biggest change since the M1.
Bandwidth on the M3 is 100GBps. On the M4, it's 20% higher (120GBps) - at least on the iPads. The M4 is likely using LPDDR5x, and can probably run even faster in a less thermally constrained system. We'll likely see in a month at WWDC, where I think they'll introduce the M4 Studio and Pro. It may even be faster in the Pro laptops, whenever they ship.
There are a LOT of unanswered questions about the M4 right now, but don't think it's just a rebadged M3. It's got 3e9 more transistors, and it's almost certainly on N3E, so it's a totally new layout. Beyond that, FinFlex opens up huge opportunities for Apple to optimize for power AND performance in different parts of the chip, and I expect they've done exactly that.
WWDC is shaping up to be very exciting for hardware, quite unexpectedly!
iPadOS 18 should be a significant release in terms of the core iOS functionality, with some visual changes to UI for the first time since perhaps iOS 7 as well as a host of updates to core apps like Calendars, Mail, Notes, and more... it will even have a calculator for the first time! But the key star is supposed to be AI technology that will be built throughout the OS including Siri and nearly all Apple apps. WHAT WE ARE NOT HEARING is any significant changes that are iPadOS specific (other than the calculator), so I expect them to hold firm with their current Stage Manager design and I'm not hearing about anything that truly makes the iPad into a direct competitor for MacOS.
i disagree… iPads are designed for bursty workloads. They dont have active cooling…
Most ipad users are running bursty workloads… no one is running processes at 100 percent CPU for hours on end.. the only situation could be for gaming
If you have a heavy work load you use a Mac
The now less expensive base iPad is that couch device.
I remember this rumor from 2 years ago. This person doesn't have too bad of a track record with respect to Apple-related leaks. If there's a good time for this to happen, it is this year. The whole tweet thread is interesting.
Has burn-in been an issue for you on your iPhone. They've been using OLED for years.
You're making several assumptions that are not proven, and are almost certainly false in the case of iPads.
These iPads are very far from "barely different". They may feel like that to *you* but you are not the only market for these products.
You also assume that replacing an iPad leads to discarding the previously owned iPad. That's often, and probably usually, not the case. If it's still functional, it will be passed to another user or resold. They tend to have very long useful lifetimes, regardless of when the first user replaces them. And it it's not still functional... then it doesn't matter if there's a new version of the iPad out or not, either way it will be replaced.
I record a lot of drone footage for work, and edit it together on iPad. Also thinking about trying out Logic Pro, just for fun.
If you can only get ProMotion on the iPad Pros then i'm glad i got the M1 iPad Pro 12.9.
Don't need all this power for an OS that barely has a file system
Don't need all this power for an OS that barely has a file system
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That Apple event image is not of Samsung's 3rd gen QD-OLED (which instead has green at the top). The pixel arrangement Samsung is using maximizes brightness, which is why they are using it, but happens to cause minor fringing around black colors (eg. text). This is fine for TVs but sub-optimal for computer monitors.
Apple doesn't need that pixel arrangement because Tandem OLED gets sufficiently bright.
Also, why would you disagree with an entire post filled with valid information simply because you (incorrectly, it seems) take issue with a very minor point?
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They've got a dark grey, not white, magic keyboard to match the iPad. Why not a pencil that matches the iPad?
My criticism is directed toward Apple and other hardware manufacturers. They don't put everything they've developed into each release. They hold back innovations and features for future sales, creating an artificial market. They also encourage sales of new products by withholding software features on older hardware which is capable of supporting them.
I'm not suggesting Apple change the volume of manufacture. However, they should only manufacture new products that have a meaningful feature set over the previous generation. With the new iPad Pro, they are putting a faster Bugatti engine on a system that runs a phone OS. OS features need to scale with the hardware.
Your original statement was "These processors are designed mostly for bursty workloads". That's definitively and totally false.
As for the iPads, that's true-ish, though getting less so with the copper and graphite in the latest Pros. Like the MacBook Air, they can sustain a decent amount of work. As you say though, 100% CPU for long periods is not happening without better cooling. None of that has anything to do with processor design, though, it's just about cooling.
I'm curious, does anyone have current-gen iPP benchmark numbers for, say, an H.265 export that runs for 30 seconds, versus the same thing looped 100 times? It would be interesting to see how much performance is lost due to throttling over longer jobs. And even more intersting to see how that changes with the new passive cooling in the new IPPs.
I would love to see a more powerful OS, including some kind of MacOS variant to be able to run on these iPad Pros but the total lack of rumors at this point and the obvious "all hands on deck" scramble to shoehorn in "AI" into Apple everything tells me with near certainty this is NOT the year for wholesale surprises to what an iPad can do. I do think iPads and iPhones alike do have a great OS ahead with a bit of a new look to the UI and extensive changes to apps to put AI everywhere.
In case anyone is curious about the M4 documentation
Apple introduces M4 chip
Apple today announced M4, the latest Apple-designed silicon chip delivering phenomenal performance to the all-new iPad Pro.
www.apple.com
To your last point, when I upgraded from my OG iPad Pro it became a music, podcast, and video player in the parrots’ room. Battery is irrelevant since it’s plugged in and I expect to still get many years of use out of it. And should it die in a decade or more I’ll bring it in for recycling.
The iPad would generally be used for things with a lot more static objects on the screen. Assuming it's used by professionals doing heavy lifting tasks.
At the other end of the potential market, my children leave their screens on, get distracted, walk away, fall asleep, forget about it for hours.
Just interested in what tech they're implementing to try and help.
I thought the purpose of a pilot was to get off the road and into the air. I don't think you're using your plane correctly.
This is what Apple said about how they avoid burn in on OLED iPhone's...
"We’ve engineered the Super Retina and Super Retina XDR displays to be the best in the industry in reducing the effects of OLED “burn-in”. This includes special algorithms that monitor the usage of individual pixels to produce display calibration data. Your iPhone uses that data to automatically adjust the brightness levels for each pixel as needed to reduce visual effects from “burn-in” and to maintain a consistent viewing experience.”
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208191"
The processors are designed for bursty workloads… the various power management and sleep/idle states suggest so. This enables great performance and high efficiency, especially for mobile applications.
Processors have been designed for bursty workloads like this for years.
The vast majority of consumer workloads are bursty in nature.
The SoC and cooling solution are optimized for the most common workload the user is expected to perform.