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TheHibernian

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Joe Brown said:
I was there in the morning through the evening so I got to see how rapidly the situation changed. Almost every call became the same story, P1 emails hitting my inbox over and over again. Tools behaving erratically. It reminded me a lot of my last call center job. Much more exciting than an 11 minute TIA but I guess it's not for everyone.
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It struck me as amateur night at the Apollo, but it did get pretty amusing as the night wore on.

"The activation servers are busy right now with the new release. I know how bad it sucks that your phone doesn't work now. Believe me. I'm in the same boat. You can try again later." Click. 1 second in available... "The activation servers are busy right now with the new release. I know how bad it sucks that your phone doesn't work now. Believe me. I'm in the same boat. You can try again later." Click. Ad infinitum. (I don't actually have an iPhone, but the callers don't have to know that.)

I don't have nearly the lofty opinion of Apple that some of my colleagues have, but I don't think it's a terrible company either. I guess I expected a little more competence when it came to releasing a software update. If you don't have the capacity to handle demand, then you manage demand. That's first-year business school stuff. A phased rollout (5 this week, 4S next week, or highest bidding cellular provider this week, next highest next week, etc.) would have left us looking like we actually knew what we were doing.

If call center work is your thing, I'm sure it seems pretty standard. I turned down a call center job with another outfit recently, given that it seemed marginally more unappealing than the job that I already have, so I get what you're saying.

I was just curious to see how it looked if you hadn't already been here for a while. Once things get back to normal, you'll probably love it. Your callers will think you're a demigod when they forget their security questions and you get them back into the app store. And they'll think you're a dick when you run a diagnostic and see that they're wildly exaggerating their battery issues. But that stuff seems to balance out in the end.
 
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Oggie Cooder

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10 hours?

I read in another forum that someone's hours were flexed up from the regular 8 hour day to up to 12 hours in one busy holiday.

Is that correct? Is overtime mandatory, and even though you receive an 8 hour or 4 hour scheduled workday, can they request that you work 10 or 12 hours on a given day?
 

DragonTears

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May 29, 2013
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I read in another forum that someone's hours were flexed up from the regular 8 hour day to up to 12 hours in one busy holiday.

Is that correct? Is overtime mandatory, and even though you receive an 8 hour or 4 hour scheduled workday, can they request that you work 10 or 12 hours on a given day?

They may have been referencing the hours they added in for Optional overtime. They will ask for volunteers, and they may ask for a certain amount of extra time each week from each advisor, but you get to choose what days etc. They do have a stipulation in place that if you sign up for OT, that you cannot work for more than 12 hours in a day, no more than 6 days in a week, no more than 60 hours total per work week. There are restrictions. Obviously they ask for a certain amount of time, but you can always sign up for more than they are asking for, if it is available.
 

Joe Brown

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They may have been referencing the hours they added in for Optional overtime. They will ask for volunteers, and they may ask for a certain amount of extra time each week from each advisor, but you get to choose what days etc. They do have a stipulation in place that if you sign up for OT, that you cannot work for more than 12 hours in a day, no more than 6 days in a week, no more than 60 hours total per work week. There are restrictions. Obviously they ask for a certain amount of time, but you can always sign up for more than they are asking for, if it is available.

Perhaps in Dragon's queue overtime is optional but in my queue it was made very clear that overtime is mandatory based on business needs at the current time. Not that I'm complaining. 12 hours of overtime for next week but you can sign up for more up to 60 hours max per week.
 

Merrybell

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Sep 20, 2013
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It struck me as amateur night at the Apollo, but it did get pretty amusing as the night wore on.

"The activation servers are busy right now with the new release. I know how bad it sucks that your phone doesn't work now. Believe me. I'm in the same boat. You can try again later." Click. 1 second in available... "The activation servers are busy right now with the new release. I know how bad it sucks that your phone doesn't work now. Believe me. I'm in the same boat. You can try again later." Click. Ad infinitum. (I don't actually have an iPhone, but the callers don't have to know that.)

I don't have nearly the lofty opinion of Apple that some of my colleagues have, but I don't think it's a terrible company either. I guess I expected a little more competence when it came to releasing a software update. If you don't have the capacity to handle demand, then you manage demand. That's first-year business school stuff. A phased rollout (5 this week, 4S next week, or highest bidding cellular provider this week, next highest next week, etc.) would have left us looking like we actually knew what we were doing.

If call center work is your thing, I'm sure it seems pretty standard. I turned down a call center job with another outfit recently, given that it seemed marginally more unappealing than the job that I already have, so I get what you're saying.

I was just curious to see how it looked if you hadn't already been here for a while. Once things get back to normal, you'll probably love it. Your callers will think you're a demigod when they forget their security questions and you get them back into the app store. And they'll think you're a dick when you run a diagnostic and see that they're wildly exaggerating their battery issues. But that stuff seems to balance out in the end.

Did somebody call for a newbie? I just finished training, so my last mentoring sessions took place throughout the week. I was just starting to get comfortable with the phones, and then wednesday happened. It was my first TERRIBLE group of customers with only a few seconds to spare between calls. My mentor thought it was great practice, but I feel that my opportunity to learn more about how to talk to customers, troubleshoot problems, and actually use iLog (the consult feature, in particular) was very limited.

Why? We were all just taking turns answering the same question, which was by procedure to offer disgruntled customers zero solutions ("if it doesn't work, keep trying"). Eventually my hopes of applying any knowledge from training or even tackling a tough case that would have totally stumped me without the assistance of my mentor were crushed.

To make matters worse, the tools (especially the KBase) I, the inexperienced AHA, need in order to stumble through a phone call have been totally unreliable at best when I need them more than ever! I waste more time refreshing articles that failed to load than I do helping customers. It has been a nightmare the past three days.

Long story short: you took the very words right out of my mouth. Amidst the chaos, I couldn't help but wonder how could Apple be so foolish about the iOS 7 launch and the capacity of its servers during a time where it's so vital for them to be up and running properly, not to mention more than capable of supporting a massively high volume of traffic.

It's one thing to inconvenience customers with wide-spread activation issues and update installation errors, but it's another to leave the staff ill-equipped to really help anyone. My apologies for the lengthy vent! It has been a fantastic experience up until this week, and reading your post reassured me that maybe my thoughts were not so crazy after all. I start nesting on monday, and I've never felt so unprepared. I'm very worried.
 

iFarmer

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Dec 12, 2012
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Did somebody call for a newbie? I just finished training, so my last mentoring sessions took place throughout the week. I was just starting to get comfortable with the phones, and then wednesday happened.

I'm really sorry this week was your first "real" week. I can't even imagine starting off with a trial by fire during such a busy time. I have to give you major kudos, and I'm sure you did great. I'm hopeful things will turn around for you once launch is finished, and you'll have time to catch your breath and see what "usual" days have to offer.
 
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Merrybell

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Sep 20, 2013
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I'm really sorry this week was your first "real" week. I can't even imagine starting off with a trial by fire during such a busy time. I have to give you major kudos, and I'm sure you did great. I'm hopeful things will turn around for you once launch is finished, and you'll have time to catch your breath and see what "usual" days have to offer. Welcome to the team, at least :)

Aww, that's the sweetest thing I've heard in a while! I don't think I can thank you enough for your kind words and encouragement. I hope you're right! It was really rough listening to my peers, through no fault of their own, get ripped a new one by some of these callers.

Even if it stays busy like this for quite some time, I'd be happy if iDesk/iLog finally stablized. Otherwise, I can't imagine how I'll manage on my own without my mentor. I'd rather not start off on the wrong foot by abusing Tier 2. Thank you again!
 

thelocksmith

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Aug 10, 2013
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ios or cpu?

Can anyone here tell me what side I will be working? My equipment package didn't include an itouch. I did however, receive an imac and all the phone equipment. I had read a few hundred pages back about how receiving the itouch means, you are ios?
 

mblogsd

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Aug 14, 2013
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Can anyone here tell me what side I will be working? My equipment package didn't include an itouch. I did however, receive an imac and all the phone equipment. I had read a few hundred pages back about how receiving the itouch means, you are ios?

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but didn't you answer your own question? Common sense would say that if you are basing the outcome solely on whether or not you received an iPod touch, you are going to be in CPU. I understand wanting to know, but either way it won't change what you will be doing.
 

thelocksmith

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Aug 10, 2013
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Sorry, I'm no expert in this process

I can only assume somethings during this process. Yes I did assume working CPU from what I do know. I have read thru all of the literature from Apple and nothing clearly states CPU or iOS. Nor was it mentioned in any interview. Common sense tells me the iPod touch would be an indicator. But hey, I'm no expert. Just wondering if anyone agrees or disagrees.;)

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but didn't you answer your own question? Common sense would say that if you are basing the outcome solely on whether or not you received an iPod touch, you are going to be in CPU. I understand wanting to know, but either way it won't change what you will be doing.
 

mblogsd

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I can only assume somethings during this process. Yes I did assume working CPU from what I do know. I have read thru all of the literature from Apple and nothing clearly states CPU or iOS. Nor was it mentioned in any interview. Common sense tells me the iPod touch would be an indicator. But hey, I'm no expert. Just wondering if anyone agrees or disagrees.;)

I was never told either. I think we are both starting on Monday. I assumed CPU for the same reason. I guess I just didn't really care too much because I was just happy to have a job. My only curiosity was that my FedEx account shows a third box that was scanned the same day as the other two, but it never actually shipped. Maybe it was a mistake, or I'll be missing something come Monday. :p
 

thelocksmith

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Aug 10, 2013
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Monday it is!

Yes, I do start Monday. I too haven't worried much about ios or cpu. Like you I am very exited to have the opportunity. Best to you, and Monday should be great!
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I was never told either. I think we are both starting on Monday. I assumed CPU for the same reason. I guess I just didn't really care too much because I was just happy to have a job. My only curiosity was that my FedEx account shows a third box that was scanned the same day as the other two, but it never actually shipped. Maybe it was a mistake, or I'll be missing something come Monday. :p
 

nhhendu

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Aug 15, 2013
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Job listing pulled

I applied for an AHA position for the Albany, NY area last month. I haven't heard anything at all other than the auto-response for my application. I noticed they kept updating the date on the job posting. Now it's completely gone. Does this mean they filled the job or just stopped looking for applications.
I assumed I'd at least get a "thanks, but no thanks" email if they filled the job.
 

thelocksmith

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Aug 10, 2013
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Hang in there

If this job is what you want, get after it. All things considered, a month isn't long. I think I may have waited three weeks before I was contacted. Consider all the madness Apple is dealing with now with new releases. Best of luck to you!

I applied for an AHA position for the Albany, NY area last month. I haven't heard anything at all other than the auto-response for my application. I noticed they kept updating the date on the job posting. Now it's completely gone. Does this mean they filled the job or just stopped looking for applications.
I assumed I'd at least get a "thanks, but no thanks" email if they filled the job.
 

bkt220

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Aug 30, 2013
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Metairie, LA
i am still waiting for my email to tell me about the 3rd interview and the other steps in the process..... I am hoping I hear something by Tuesday.... if not then I am gonna throw in the towel....and wait for the "Thank you for playing" email....
 

KMay001

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Sep 22, 2013
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i am still waiting for my email to tell me about the 3rd interview and the other steps in the process..... I am hoping I hear something by Tuesday.... if not then I am gonna throw in the towel....and wait for the "Thank you for playing" email....

If it helps, I just had my second interview on Thursday, and they said it would be three to five days. All of the upper level recruiters have to meet and decide who they want.
 

abananas

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Sep 23, 2013
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Does anyone have any experience with the At-Home Advisor AppleCare Maps position? I have my second interview via Skype on Wednesday and I was just wondering what to expect from the interview.
 

bkt220

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Aug 30, 2013
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Metairie, LA
just got the "Thanks for playing" email from Apple....:confused: I wonder why it took them so long to send this email.... from what I have read on this thread they usually do not waste time to send the thanks for playing email.... Oh well...what are you gonna do...no sense in crying over spilled applesauce...
 

bkt220

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Aug 30, 2013
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Metairie, LA
Is that really the subject line of the email, "thanks for playing"?

Sorry to hear that. Are you going to reapply? What's the email look like?

No the subject line reads: "Thanks for your time and interest in Apple". I just thank god I did not put all my apples in one basket...and have been interviewing for other positions and been doing well on the interviews....had a second interview today with Exxon Mobile and I have a second interview with a local community college on Wednesday....
 
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