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Apple CEO Tim Cook Publicly Comes Out as Gay in Letter Declaring Support for Equality
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Unbelievable to read such a comment in 2014...
Mr Cook never asked you to support him or his homosexuality... I guess there is a price to pay for freedom of speech and you just showed us that it is an expensive one. As an American, I support your right to express yourself and I would fight for you to keep this right. On a more personal level, as a human being, your comment just showed how bigoted you are and how long is the road... Simply pathetic to read the second statement in your comment... I am sure other people in this forum have react or will react to such bigotry. Enough said.
The practice of sexual immorality of all kinds (fornication, adultery, homosexuality, etc) is the root cause of horrific harm: from the idea that we can sleep with someone other than a spouse we facilitate the breaking of families, prostitution, sex trafficking, venereal disease, unwanted pregnancies, etc. Even if a homosexual couple is monogamous, they are, by their lifestyle, approving the climate of sexual immorality, by definition.
There are certainly a lot of replies here. It has come to my attention that we are not all on the same page here.
Am I the only one who could care less if people come out or not? I mean I don't go around advertising my heterosexuality.
What do you mean "advertise" your sexuality? I see straight couples kissing, holding hands, talking like sappy lovebirds. I've been to bars where women are dry-humping every guy they can see. Straight people wear shirts that have all sorts of sexual innuendo (or more direct sexual references). Everything in the media is sexualized. There are billboards with half-naked/naked couples entangled with one another. Heterosexuality is LITERALLY advertised constantly. It's everywhere.
But a gay character in a tv show? An equal sign on a bumper? A rainbow flag flying for one month out of the year? A celebrity coming out of the closet? OMG--STOP JAMMING YOUR GAYNESS DOWN OUR THROATS!!! Please.
I know to most people they think the more people that come out the more people will accept it, but how does that logic work? If people are opposed to it, they are opposed to it. So, that's not exactly a valid argument because everyone else is doing it, it must be ok. That's been said a lot through the ages and look where that has gotten us.
Here's why. Until recently, the straight community only saw the gay community as those weird shirtless dudes in leather chaps whipping someone tied up to a pole. That is a very small (yet overly-visible) sector of the community. Just like there are straight people who are into that kinky leather crap. Most gay people aren't like that. They blend in. For most, it is WHAT they are, not WHO they are. They're your neighbors, your co-workers, your family members, your customers, etc. But until they actually TOLD anyone, people would continue to think gay people are those kinky half naked idiots riding on floats covered in rainbows during the yearly pride parade. But they kept quiet so they wouldn't face the discrimination and were able to blend in. NOW, with regular gay folks have come out--the public realizes, Hey, they aren't so different, weird or perverted. They're regular, kind, respectable people who deserve equal treatment under the law. That is how change happens.
Before you regard global warming as a "********" story. I highly recommend doing some research into it. (and look at it objectively).
We do know, that in recorded human history, we are in a global warming trend. This is a fact that we can observe.
We do know now that certain elements in the air are being found in abundance, greater numbers than ever before in human recorded history. Many of these elements are being directly pumped into the air and atmosphere by our daily lives.
This implies heavy correlation that our current warming trend is not of natural occurrence, but direct result of our human intervention.
now, I pooint out the term Correlation, because there's a significant difference between Causation and Correlation. Can we be 100% absolutely certain that this current warming trend isn't partially natural occurance, as we can use science to prove that the earth has gone through multiple warming and cooling trends.
However, the way I look at it, is that we know its warming up as a whole. while there's a slim chance we are not the cause of it, I would like have as little impact on that warming trend as I can possibly manage. As a resident of this planet, I believe it is my duty to not help cause it become inhospitable place.
See what Peter said in Acts 15.
Curious, I don't recall the scripture mentioning that Paul was riding on a horse on the road to Damascus.
If you don't wish to take the Bible on its own terms then I can't help you. I'm not here today to argue if one part of the Bible is legitimate verses another. That is another topic of discussion. I believe all of the Bible is inspired by God. Jesus proved his own views on homosexuality in his Sermon on the Mount when he affirmed the entirety of the Law (ref to Matt 5).
I know being gay is not a choice because I am gay.
So are about 25 very good friends of mine.
First hand experience of something is a little more concrete than believing you were put on earth by and old man who lives in the sky.
you are doing just that.
you are trying to tell everyone that the part of the bible damning homosexuality should be taken at face value and is an absolute truth,
But any other part fo the bible we point out that we as humans have changed, stopped following, or contradict each other, you plug your ears on and say "I'm not addressing that"
you can't have it both way and are being extremely hypocritical. The fact you are completely blind to this hypocrisy is scary. The fact that despite a lot of people outright pointiong out your hypocrisy and you completely ignoring it , ONLY to point out that the bible says gayness is wrong, is not a reflection of religion, or the Bible, but in yourself and your own bigotry. You can hide behind the bible all you want, but you are the one who is using it as an excuse for your beliefs.
I have met many christians of varying faith. Many of them are amazing friends of mine, and many of them find you sick. Your train of thought sickening. And the way you nitpick what you want to believe from the bible, and what parts you ignore to be abhorrent to the very nature of the religion
Why would anybody choose to be gay?
"You mean so I can choose to live a life where I can be fired in half the states for who I love, not be allowed to marry in 20 states, face discrimination on a daily basis and be told by strangers that I'm burning in hell? Sign me up!"
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Oy, so you're one of those only have sex in marriage for the purpose of procreation types.
"You mean so I can choose to live a life where I can be fired in half the states for who I love, not be allowed to marry in 20 states, face discrimination on a daily basis and be told by strangers that I'm burning in hell? Sign me up!"
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Oy, so you're one of those only have sex in marriage for the purpose of procreation types.
You still don't choose who you find attractive though, do you? At least I don't.
Also, I've never found a man attractive but you're quite right that I do find certain women attractive and not others.
I don't think anyone has a choice about who they find attractive - it's a purely instinctive reaction. We choose who to date or have sexual relations with but not who we're attracted to.
I speak for myself as I certainly have never made a conscious choice to like women - it's just who I am.
I am aware of the topic. Scientist have held proven opinions on other topics that turned out false. At the end of the day it boils down to who or what you tend to believe. As a resident of this planet, I do not believe it is my duty to not help cause it become inhospitable place. I also don't think that the planet is warming up and if it does, I think that is a good thing. It's too cold in most parts of the world anyway.
How is homosexuality immoral by definition?
Adultery is cheating on a loved one - which hurts the loved one - so it is clearly immoral, but homosexuality hurts no one. I don't see how you come to the conclusion that it's immoral.
What a load of vague BS.
First, it is high comedy that anyone would prevent gay people from getting married because its immoral, yet curse the immorality of those who would have sex outside of marriage.
Gay rights has nothing to do with prostitution, sex trafficking, UNWANTED PREGNANCIES (ARE YOU FRICKEN SERIOUS?!?)? STDs are a problem with anyone who can't keep it in their pants. Saying that the allowance of gay rights somehow supports these problems is absolutely absurd.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not a doctor or anything, but I'm fairly certain there's little to no risk of a gay couple having an unwanted pregnancy
The sad thing is that if your son or daughter were lay in bed at night tearing themselves apart inside that, no matter how hard they prayed to God they could not make themselves stop being attracted to someone of the same sex, that would be the answer you would give them.
No matter how much science, medicine and psychology has proved that repressing homosexual feelings can lead to extreme mental distress and is a major cause of teen suicide, you would rather stand by the teachings of some book from a few thousand years ago than your own offspring.
That's hideous.
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My homosexuality has hurt a lot of women who find me insanely attractive yet ultimately unattainable.
I take your word, that you are convinced that your sexual orientation is not your choice.
However, this does not make it true for everyone.
If people are born gay, I wonder what was going on in ancient rome and greece. Why was almost everyone born gay and pedophile back then?
The problem i have with this mentality is it disregards known science. Science is not a system of belief While known science isn't perfect, and yes, we might be all proven wrong in 20 years. There is more evidence behind the current sciences to give us reasonable assumptions.
Science isn't just some guy in a lab saying "I believe it this way, therefore its this way". Science is something that has a few core tenants.
Science must be observable.
Science must be provable.
Science must be repeatable.
What that means si that for science to make a claim, such as global warming, They wil lhave had to conduct studies, with objective measurement. real numbers obtainable from objective sources. in the case of Global Warming, there is scientific evidence through measurement that average temperatures around the world have in fact increased. This is a fact.
It must be provable. Meaning that you have to be able to show these findings to others. You have to have the concrete evidence to back this up. you can't just say somethign and it taken as fact.
It must be repeatable. This is one of the key things. A scientific study doesn't automatically prove something. If you cannot repeat that study with the same result, across time and from various sources, it's not a good study. That means, in the case of global warming. Hundreds of different scientists from hundreds of countries of different nationalities, religions and faiths all do the same studies, they will come to the same results.
This is the case for Global warming. All the studies have been repeated for decades to form objective numbers. And all those numbers are showing is that the average temperatures and albedos in the world have increased by measurable amounts in the time since those studies started.
These are facts. you can choose to ignore those facts, but ignoring facts doesn't change that those facts still exist.
where humanity hasn't really proven yet(and we're getting closer) is the cause of this rise in global temperatures. Correlation and science studies (all done to uphold the tenents of science) have shown that it is likely (though not guaranteed or proven as fact yet) that it is our impact.
as to the world being a better place if its warmer? perhaps. the earth has survived other swings in temperatures, from extreme cold to extreme warmth. The question is, how will HUmanity handle the swings? There's a problem with the warmer temperatures causing ice caps to melt. What happens when land masses become smaller from raising water levels? what happens if the global albedo becomes to great? Will the greenhouse effect run rampant? we don't have these answers, but I would like humanity to try and avoid putting ourselves into a situation where we have to discover them.
ignoring the science behind this all, and claiming you don't believe it, isn't like religion. it doesn't cease to exist just because you stop believing in it. You can choose not to believe in global warming. Guess what, its still going to exist with or without you believing it.
And back to your point that science has been proven wrong. Absolutely. Thats the point of science. Science doesn't exist to prove itself right. Science itself is actually the practice at disproving theory. The goal of science is to take a theory, and attack it with the entire weight of objectivity to disprove it. Those theories that hold up to this barrage of attack, are theories that tend to be more likely to be true, or at least until they're proven wrong. Those that can't be proven wrong (gravity for example) are considered laws.
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I've never ever met anyone who said that they decided which sex they liked one day. Attraction is a natural thing, not something anyone can choose. They can choose to hide it - especially if they've been conditioned into being ashamed of their feelings towards a particular sex - but I've never heard of anyone being able to choose who they're attracted to.
Multiple forms of sexuality was a lot more accepted back in Greece and Rome, so you had a lot more people showing it in public. It didn't mean everyone was gay or bi, but those who were indulged themselves alongside everyone else.
...and then someone came by and painted it on a pot.
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