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Thanks for being understanding. IMO, I agree with pretty much everything you said, though I deviate in that I think our challenge is to not stereotype. So, I personally try to say ‘most Republicans’, or something like ‘common Republican values’ because their are, indeed, some Repubs who spoke out, early on, about 45’s handling of COVID, and have wanted to work across the aisle.
That’s a really good point. When I say the Republicans did this or that, I typically mean those in charge of the party policies and the platform. Those who define what it means to be a Republican.

But the Republican Party has been co-opted by Trump. Republican used to mean conservative: strong on defense, fiscally conservative, “family values”, pro-Constitution etc. Let’s call them McCain Republicans.

Trump is not a true Republican—he donated to Kamala Harris in the early 2010s for God’s sake—and he’s certainly no conservative. True conservatives (McCain Republicans) have left the party. They repudiate Trump. They’ve become independents.

Trump Republicans are against many of the things McCain Republicans and true conservatives believe to their core. But McCain Republicans don’t necessarily see a home in the Democratic Party.

Republicans need to make a decision: are you a Trump Republican or a McCain Republican? You can’t be both.

If you’re not a Trump Republican, have the courage of your convictions and find the strength to vote against him, or at the very least not for him.
 
I'll be getting a flu shot as well. I suspect flu illness and deaths will be dramatically less this year with so many people wearing masks, social distancing, and frequent hand washings.

Yes! Here in Australia, Spring has started and flu infections this winter were dramatically down, with about 8% of deaths from influenza in 2020 (to date) compared to 2019.
 
Don't let the government control you: stop wearing masks!!!

Don't let social media control you!

Use your own analytical capability to determine that a mask is likely to prevent the spread of an airborne virus...

it's a no-brainer, so you don't even need very deep intellectual capabilities to see that it's a sensible precaution.
 
Why is this topic on political? 🤷🏻‍♂️

On topic, if the mask(s) work really well they should consider selling it.
 
So what part am I failing at? If it's the reusing a face mask part, then sorry for doing what everybody is doing including many healthcare workers. Might as well just not wear a mask at all if it's a 100% fail, right?

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Re-using masks is a necessity sometimes, but this doesn't preclude good practices for handling them when not in use.

Generally, this means only handling them by the straps and avoiding contact with other parts of the body - so wearing them around your neck after wearing them is risky.

Handle the mask as if it were infected (by yourself or contact with an infected person), which means washing / sanitizing your hands before and after touching it, and placing it in a sealed bag when not in use.

I carry a small 100% iso-propyl-alcohol spray, and spray the mask inside and and out before placing in a zip-lock bag when not in use. If you can wash properly when you get home, this is preferable, but I reckon the virus will have not survive for long after exposure to 100% alcohol in a sealed bag.
 
A company also cannot easily buy those materials from the supply chain currently so there's that too. Thoughtful or accidental? 🤔

Apple is not any company. If they want to get in on those materials be sure they can, easily.
 
Looks almost exactly like the fold flat KN95s. I think the ear loops are a mistake if they actually designed it. A behind-the-neck loop is almost always better allowing for a tighter fit and more comfortable long wear.

Ear loops are easier to put in and take out. I’m wearing masks in public since March and with trails and errors I won’t wear behind-the-neck if I can find ear loop one.
 
What a sad state of affairs that mask wearing has to be put in the political section.
People, mask wearing is to protect your fellow humans regardless of race, creed, faith, beliefs, etc.

Indeed. Wearing mask in pandemic situation like this is only for protection for oneself and people around us. Nothing wrong with it.
 
This is so stupid. Lose the masks people. Move on and live.

When the risk of infection becomes negligible, we will.

It's a minor inconvenience in order to reduce the health, social and economic impact of covid-19 more quickly than it would otherwise take (through immunity or vaccination).

What would you rather? wear a mask for 3-6 months and get back to normal at the beginning of 2021, or for people not to wear masks, and have this situation drift on through the whole of next year? Wearing a mask to reduce potential cross-infection seems to be the socially responsible thing to do. Nothing to do with politics or control.

Personally, I don't want to get sick at all, with the possibility that it could affect me more seriously (I'm slightly asthmatic).

Masks seem like a sensible precaution for the time being unless you live somewhere where there is so little incidence of covid-19 in the community that there is very little risk of contracting it.
 
I don't understand why this is in the political section.

I guess you don't follow US news :)

It's a real shame that a health issue has become politicised. It should be data-driven. Even the WHO and many western governments missed the mark on this one, and we are still lacking widespread research data on the efficacy of masks or other measures to avoid cross-infection.
 
Don't let the government control you: stop wearing masks!!!
You shouldn’t make jokes like that. Some people are not capable of detecting humor or sarcasm, and your advice is why we have around 4% of the worlds population but 20% of the deaths from Covid-19.

Anyone who follows your advice may end up killing friends or family members—not just the random public they may not care anything about. Or killing themself.
 
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Anyone wondering why this post is in the political section, this post is exhibit A :rolleyes:

LOL :)

But I do like the point about anti-intellectualism. There is a great quote from Isaac Asimov in Newsweek in 1980:

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
 
The whole problem right now regarding the face mask issue is that we were raised in an individualistic society that taught us that doing things for others that isn’t directly for our personal benefit is a sign of weakness.

Research shows closing the border to China would have done zilch in preventing the spread of the virus. That’s just a Republican wet dream/fantasy talking point to get votes.

Note that most Asian countries have done very well with keeping infection numbers low, partly because their cultures emphasise that individuals are part of wider society, and that our individual choices can affect others.

They have also had more recent experience with epidemics (SARS) and often live in denser populations where avoiding infecting others when you are ill is seen is being socially responsible, hence a much greater acceptance of wearing masks.

In the case of China, this tendency is of course amplified by government control, but more liberal countries like Thailand and South Korea have been successful because their populations understand what needs to be done.
 
LOL :)

But I do like the point about anti-intellectualism. There is a great quote from Isaac Asimov in Newsweek in 1980:

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
Sandra Day O’Connor once said something like, one day we will pay a terrible price for stopping the teaching of civics.
 
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Is this N95 and above or just regular masks?

China now has too much capacity for N95, and we still cant source enough N95?

Regular masks are ineffective in high risk locations, such as inside of an Apple Store or on a plane.
I know it won’t be certified as a N95 in the USA, due to having ear loops instead of straps that go behind your head.

 
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You will harm yourself and other people. This is so selfish.

Stop spewing this nonsense. Not true!!! So sick of hearing "wearing a mask not only saves you, but others". That is complete BS and you know it. Everything with this virus is so blown out of proportion it's sickening and what's worse is how everyone is brainwashed into believing it. Did you ever stop and think that people need to build up some immunity to this virus, like we did with flu?
 
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