The point being: that it is not annoying to post to a message board, while waiting for a device to register input is annoying.
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Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions
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I still don't really understand what the issue is with this. I've used iOS 11 on a 6s and now an 8 Plus and I haven't experienced home button lag.
I see no user facing change in iOS 11 which merit this decreased performance and battery drain apart from the insane levels of Bokeh blur they keep increasing in every subsequent iOS iteration. Their latest devices handle these graphical effects just fine but instead of having the OS tone down these effects depending on the device being used, they run the same amount of effects on all devices right down till the 5s and it has a bad impact on user experience. NVIDIA did this with their video cards where it was found they were paying developers to code in insane levels of tessellation in games as they came out with subsequent levels of new hardware which crippled the experience for their OWN older devices which couldn't handle them.The 780Ti which was their flagship and supposed to be much faster than the GTX 970 lost to the GTX 970 which was at half price just a couple of months after Maxwell launched. Planned Obsolescence exists in every industry and its generally the market leaders doing it so I although I do get mad at Apple, theres not much I can do as many electronics and PC components I buy has this built in.
Also by the way, how can an A10 Fusion chip not execute a simple task like scrolling down a lost of widgets without some stutter at the beginning? It blows away the most demanding 3D games on the App Store with ease yet cant do graphical animations smoothly? Do I need to have the latest chip for this? Why are 8 Plus users getting 13-14 hours of battery life EASILY on iOS 11 while here I am on a miserable 7-8 hours with 97% battery health according to Coconut Battery? Is A11 Bionic twice as efficient? iOS 11 is wasting my charge cycles with its inefficiencies and causing my battery to degrade faster than usual
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I have posted a video on the first page. On iOS 10 when you click the home button, the app closes simultaneously while on iOS 11 it waits for the click to be complete and a split second later closes the app. While the naysayers here are saying I am crazy for bothering about such a minor thing and to get on with my life, this simple bug caused the 8 Plus to lose to the Note 8 and slowed down the iPhone 7 Plus response time worse than the iPhone 6 on iOS 10.
The iPhone 8 doesn’t “lose” to the note 8. Clear areas in Performance it blows the n8 away. However if you rely on YouTube video tests to tell you “your phone is slow”, one shouldn’t be watching Youtube especially if your use case is a “cereal” app opener.
It's like someone hits the reset button on you every year and you forget everything you ever said. It's bizarre.
Here's a thread with someone asking if they should upgrade their iPhone 6 and you telling them to do it as it will speed it up. How does this fit with your theory that phones only run the version they were released with well? The 6 shipped alongside iOS 8, yet you say it will run iOS 10 well. How does those two things line up in your head? How are they planned obsolescence?
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6-ios-9-3-5-10-3.2038999/#post-24436102
How come you keep ignoring the fact that the 5s runs 10.3.3 really well? Why is that?
This is absolutely intentional
There was a bug a year or so ago where you could crash springboard animations by using assistive touch and search. Made my iPhone 5 super fast, folders and apps opened instantly and recognised taps without delay
Sometimes wonder if the longer animations are 'more user friendly' as it blocks out accidental taps, but for me it just makes the whole interface slower and frustrating
There was a bug a year or so ago where you could crash springboard animations by using assistive touch and search. Made my iPhone 5 super fast, folders and apps opened instantly and recognised taps without delay
Sometimes wonder if the longer animations are 'more user friendly' as it blocks out accidental taps, but for me it just makes the whole interface slower and frustrating
Let me guess.... You have no evidence of this?
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Oh... There you go again. If you say it enough times it must be true. /s
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You lit him up quite severely there, likely suffering from third degree burns.
In the first video you see the 8plus vs the note. In the next video you see the iPhone 7 and all it's glory with the instant responding iOS 10 home button. Basically the 6S home button performs the same way as the iPhone 8 plus button. Notice the delay when closing apps. Which phone and operating system would you choose for speed? It's pretty obvious that the animations and instant home button responsiveness of the 7 (under iOS 10) is much faster than the 8 on iOS 11. Especially when he gets to the second lap. It's just so obvious watching these videos back to back that the 7 is just faster. I know the 8 has a 25% faster chip but the design and choice of the timing for interactions/animations of the OS is severely holding it back making it hop in and out of apps slower than the previous gen iPhone 7.
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Context. The poster was on iOS 9. I never said it will be back to complete iOS 8 speeds. I said it will run well compared to iOS 9 which was true because iOS 9 absolutely wrecked my 6. Even in the case was 5s it was all relative to iOS 9
So when Apple restored the speed in iOS 10 it was because of... planned obsolescence?
Do you see how none of this makes any sense? Is it sinking in?
I don't know if this is related or not, but I feel like activating the flashlight on iOS 11 is a lot slower than it was before and feels lagged, it seems to take a second or so longer to pop up. I have a brand new, set up fresh iPhone 8 Plus so it's definitely not a hardware issue.
Don't quote me selectively. Quote my entire sentence. Futuremark benchmark says that benchmarks are same for the device irrespective of iOS version. However Apple media is using that article to hammer on us that Apple does not intentionally slow down older devices.
We all know that CPU power has always remained same and I have even got higher benchmarks on newer iOS releases.
My main problem is: IF THE BENCHMARKS HAVE REMAINED SAME, WHY THE SAME PHONE IS A STUTTERY AND LAGGY MESS? Why is there a delay while performing normal day to day functions and UI animations? Has the blur changed since iOS 7? It's the same gaussian blur which is found in Android and Windows operating systems.
Or is Apple using some stupid neural networks to simulate blur? Ofcourse they are not doing this insane thing. So why do UI of iPhone starts to stutter and lag with each update?
But we do have apologists who tell us that iOS 7 on iPhone 4 or iPad Air 1 on iOS 8 was the best thing ever.
As many people have pointed out that Home button delay/lag is a bug and it will be fixed by the start of iOS 12 beta next year or they will delete their MacRumors account. Let's see what happens first.
Agree with everything except my Air was never fully smooth, on any version of iOS. The Air 2 was butter on release.
With those comments you were trying to suggest Apple commissioned the report by Futuremark, but you have zero proof.
Tin foil hat time again.
I doubt Apple had any involvement, but it’s irrelevant as the study is meaningless anyway.
No one, with any intelligence, thinks Apple is slowing down their hardware....we know it’s the software that’s the culprit.
Still not as fast as the iOS version the phone shipped with. Dont we have desktop class CPUs in these things? My PC hasnt slowed down since 2009.So when Apple restored the speed in iOS 10 it was because of... planned obsolescence?
Do you see how none of this makes any sense? Is it sinking in?
[doublepost=1508006822][/doublepost]I am still waiting for an explanation on why my 7 Plus lasts half as long as an 8 Plus when it comes to battery life and thats all besides the delays and whatnots
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There is more blur than before using the CC and the NC is more demanding now because of the blur transitioning effect. Also whenever you launch an app on iOS 11, the icons in the background arent removed like on iOS 10 which also makes iOS 11 more demanding. The blur intensity in the app switcher has changed.
Even if you dont see a difference in the blur that doesnt mean they havent tinkered with it. There could be more GPU draw calls than before.
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I agree that Apple is going overboard with blur effects throughout iOS. The effects/transitions are tweaked a bit. But blur is just blur. If it takes more resources to create same blur than before, it clearly is inefficient programming. As if I am getting orgasms by being wowed by blur in iOS 11 compared to iOS 7. If this blur is consuming too many CPU + GPU cycles and causing stuttering throughout, it needs to be replaced with something better and efficient.
Yup. I already do this with the NVIDIA video cards. Its a thing with market leaders as they have nothing to worry about imo. Its basically the price to pay if you want the ecosystem in the case of smartphones and if you want the performance in case of video cards. Not ruling out Android though. I got 2 problems with the X. One being that when I played with the Xcode simulator, it seemed a little too cramped to me so if its that way after I receive it, I will keep my 7 to stay in the ecosystem and buy an Android (Note 8 or Pixel(if there arent any display issues)) just to play with and get the X Plus next year. The second problem is by the time I preorder it, there will be a 6-8 week delay in which case I will keep my 7. Lets see how it goes.
Either way, only have to tolerate these issues till the 27th.
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Their newer hardware doesnt have any problem keeping up with it which is why they do it just to show off their hardware prowess. Very similar to NVIDIA who were caught red handed programming insane levels of tessellation in Crysis 2 which their Fermi GPUs could render perfectly but caused their older cards to suffer a severe performance penalty
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Fractions of a second. Most people use the term laggy or low frames per second. Doesn't add up but it ruins the experience and is annoying.
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That benchmark is measuring cpu speed, not measuring frames per second nor is it measuring input responsiveness. The report is trying to trick everyone by making us look at cpu performance.
A real test to the question, " is Apple slowing it down on purpose" would measure fps and input responsiveness.
That wouldn't answer the question either. You couldn't prove it was on purpose or was the result of poor programing.
You can assume it’s deliberate since it occurs every year. If it was one year, you could blame poor programming.
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