So this 2009 PC that hasn't slowed down, you've been putting cutting edge video cards in then? Have you also by chance replaced the disks, RAM, motherboard, cpu and case?
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Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions
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So this 2009 PC that hasn't slowed down, you've been putting cutting edge video cards in then? Have you also by chance replaced the disks, RAM, motherboard, cpu and case?
assume: "suppose to be the case, without proof" (from the apple dictionary). key word: "suppose". once again, without proof, an assumption is just an assumption... and a fact still requires proof.
yet the conspiracy theorists never let up...
I don’t have proof, but it’s supposed to be. Thanks for validating my post.assume: "suppose to be the case, without proof" (from the apple dictionary). key word: "suppose". once again, without proof, an assumption is just an assumption... and a fact still requires proof.
yet the conspiracy theorists never let up...
I never said it was fact, but you can assume it to be true based on the evidence.
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Yes, and? You guys “assume” Apple isn’t slowing down their software. What evidence do you have to negate this theory?
I love when you use the word assume on forums: OMG YOU SAYZ ASUMZ YOU ARE RONG.
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"I don’t have proof, but it’s supposed to be." what does that mean, exactly?
honestly, you're the one promoting an assumption. saner people here are just pointing out that you lack proof... the dividing line between fact and opinion. no one is assuming apple isn't slowing down software, or, for that matter, working for the chinese government, or embedding witchcraft spells in the OS.
you make something up, and people counter that. that's how the real world works.
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Except there are people trying to promote some assumption and are basically proselytizing, while the others aren't. There's an important difference there.
The latest public beta has introduced lag at every tap and swipe...
There is proof that devices slow down after a few iOS updates. You can go to iApplebytes for that.
The question is whether it’s intentional or not. If devices continuously and conventiently slow down after two to three iOS versions, you can assume Apple is doing this it purpose to get you to purchase a new device.
I’m assuming it’s on purpose, as no matter the Ax chip, iPhones become considerably slower within a few years. The visual workload for iOS 8 and iOS 11 are similar and should not exhibit the type of slowdown experienced. Microsoft doesn’t have this issue, because they want to sell you their software. Throughout the years, my Intel 2500k runs Windows 7 / 8 / 10 all similarly. This is not a coincidence.
Why use logic, when there is nothing on this planet that could get through to the non-believers, aka Apple apologists
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assume: "suppose to be the case, without proof" (from the apple dictionary). key word: "suppose". once again, without proof, an assumption is just an assumption... and a fact still requires proof.
yet the conspiracy theorists never let up...
It can be deduced based on the facts of the case. For instance, by the end of iOS 11 will the battery drain, home button, delay and stuttering be fixed? If they aren’t and iOS 12 breaks more things than it fixes, the writing is on the wall.
Just look at the battery life of the 8 Plus and you will get proof. 14 hours and the 7 Plus barely crosses 7. I used to get the same battery life iPhone 8 users are getting on iOS 10. Why has it halved and why hasn’t it been fixed till now if it was a bug?
And what’s speaking with this speaking with my wallet nonsense. Whether I buy or don’t buy the product, Apple going to have record sales and the message ain’t gonna reach em anyway.
Not only that but those tests only show load times and not how the device feels. Random frame skips and stuttering start to creep in the longer you keep updating the phone. It never becomes like how it was when it was on the iOS version it originally shipped with. A11 Bionic is a monster yet who wants to bet iOS 12 will still manage to run slow on it next year.
Yup, replying to what you said.
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Speaking of logic...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
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I think it’s proven that Apple intentionally slowed down the home button. No point fighting over it anymore.
That is blasphemous to talk about it here. After I posted this topic, my Home button automagically became so fast that now it closes apps before I think about it. Sometimes I think it's too fast.
You see, this right here is the power of forums.
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someone else must have mentioned wallets; just mentioning. (altho it could be a conspiracy, and i knew about it all along...)
one person is assuming... the other is deducing. again, an opinion is not a fact; your observations and experiences are real, but again, sigh... aren't the same for everyone. and that's what's happening on this thread: different people, with different experiences, are discussing issues.
most of us understand this: there are issues, and those need fixes. but others, for some reason, 'insist' they know the 'plan' behind the problems... and that's just fantasy, or, as you both put it: 'assuming' and 'deducing'.
personally, never an apple apologist; i used to jailbreak my phones, and my macs are full of customizations, hacks, etc.
meanwhile, back in the real world, my SE is running beautifully, no less fast or stable than it was on ios10. am enjoying that...
So let’s get one thing straight. Have the phones slowed down since release? Yes. Has it been fixed so it’s back to its usual speed? No. What does this mean?
TL;DR
You took the blue pill, enjoy.
No longer commenting. Go watch iApplebytes on clean installs. Safe travels me matey.
It’s clear it’s been slowed, but its way too early to determine if it’s intentional. Similar issues happened and were resolved last year with the home button.
mine hasn't slowed down. my sister-in-law's hasn't. the person next to me at the coffeebar is running 11, he says it's fine. there are a lot of people using iphones, and a really tiny percentage post on macforums. am not arguing that some people have issues, but, back to the topic of this thread, that apple has purposely slowed down the os: again, there is no proof of this.
try to stay on topic. and if you need help with your phone, you can visit an apple store, call them, or... use this very-excellent forum...
I said I wasn’t going to respond, but the guy at the coffeebar bit was hilarious. Thanks for that.
I said I wasn’t going to respond, but the guy at the coffeebar bit was hilarious. Thanks for that.
4 people around me with iphones. got into a conversation about the new os, and asked them what they ran: 2 weren't sure (and i didn't push it), 1 was on 10, and the guy next to me, on 11. not a conclusion, but the point is, as it has always been: some people are happy on the new os, some not. going by a small group (2 of us at that table running ios11), is no more definitive, than, say going by a handful of people on a macrumors forum.
the world is a much bigger place than that.
What proof?
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But the iApplebytes videos show the slowdown. Its all on video.
Anyways according to the members in this thread, the home button delay will be fixed. Lets see if that holds true. In my opinion, now that the X is out and will come with its own huge share of bugs because of a new OS variant specifically for it, Apple wont bother with its budget lineup and focus on the X. Its not a coincidence the 8 is losing to Note 8 in tests which must be for the first time in 3-4 years. All of Apple's resources have been focused on the X all this time
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the iapplebytes videos are just one resource, with one set of iphones. what about all the other iphones out there? what percentage of ALL the iphones on ios 11 have these issues? i don't know the answer to that, and... neither does anyone else. if one person has an issue, and decides we all have the issue, that doesn't make it true. for the last time, your experience is valid, but doesn't speak for everyone's experience. and, in case you haven't notice, more people post when they have issues then when they don't (so we see a dozen angry or 'need help' threads, and maybe one saying how great the new os is).
the world is enormous, and we can't make definitive statements based on one web forum, or a single youtube account.
The issue was definitely widespread enough to be reported as news
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/25/ios-11-app-slowdowns-performance-issues/
https://thenextweb.com/apple/2017/09/25/iphone-users-ios-11-complain/
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/859489/iOS-11-Battery-Life-iPhone-Drain
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...leases-beta-iOS-11-1-complaints-continue.html
We even have a chart on battery drain
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