It's all so identical that somehow it seems that while some users were experiencing some issues in iOS 10, the very users that talk about how everything is identical and thus applies the same way to everyone and everything somehow weren't experiencing those issues. Interesting how that works out.
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Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions
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iOS 11 implemented faster scrolling, so your eyes aren’t playing tricks. It’s the same scroll speed as Google AMP pages on iOS 10.
I’m still trying to understand why Apple would purposefully do this. It’s obvious that the software just wasn’t very polished and they’re still making improvements, as we’ve seen over the past few 11.1 betas.
Controlled speed tests on fresh installs can accurately benchmark a device’s speed on non-internet related tasks, like application launching.
Safari purposely scrolled at a different, slower speed than the rest of the default iOS controls from the start (or at least very early). Originally this was because a) mostly "full" web pages were served to Mobile Safari, a la Steve Jobs original NYT demo, so a lot of small content was there and b) rendering these pages was done in a tiled fashion because of the small amount of processing power and memory in those early devices, so slower scrolling also had the benefit of letting the machine catch up and render.
It wasn't long of course before web pages adapted to mobile in general and Safari/Webkit in particular on small screens, and the hardware itself was beefed up. The feature probably outstayed its welcome by quite a bit. While I never really noticed/cared until it was pointed out to me, unifying the scroll speed and inertia of Safari with the other iOS controls seems like it was the right thing to do.
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Seems like they just unified the click speed, whether the button was physical or capacitive.
Which doesn't change various paradoxical situations nonetheless: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...on-interactions.2067278/page-29#post-25230387
its quite possible the issue was there and I didn't notice it. I was coming from a stuttery iPhone 6 with 1gb of ram so at that time the iPhone 7 seemed like an escape into bliss. But in the grand scheme of things iPhone 7 Plus was running like hot knife cutting through butter on iOS 10.
Again I can record a video like on the first page and prove the delay is the exact same. There has been no improvement and 2 guys in the beta thread already agree with me
So basically as has been pointed out many times over and over, different people can in fact have different experiences and while some people see something as "horrific", others see it as just fine if not even good, and those are all still very valid experiences--meaning that that "horrific" doesn't in fact usually apply to everyone (or even most).
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Chrome on iOS 10 already had this this type of scrolling. Its nothing to do with iOS 11. Apple could easily have done it on IOS 10
All these variables are eliminated on a clean install. Remove the SIM from your phone, factory reset it and go through setup screen. Do this on 2 iPhone 7 models and both of them perform the same. I am not asking you to install apps. Do the tests with the stock preinstalled apps.
If what you were saying were true, that would pretty much render all benchmarks null and void if all devices of a particular variant performed differently
If only things could be proven so easily and in such ways, I would have aced my mathematics exams.
"It fits my pre-established world view that x=42, ergo proof"
You’re getting an X? But I though you would never pay $1000 for an iPhone X. You even went as far as saying you would trash all your Apple devices (and also said you would sell all your Apple devices on Craigslist) if Apple charged $1000 and switch to Android & Windows.
So finally we reach a conclusion.Now the only possible alternative solutions are
1)For instantaneous response get iPhone X.
2)Like in iOS 10, wait for Apple to fix it but this could go either way
3)Get an Android. But even there things aren't cheaper. Every phone I am looking at costs $1000
Unfortunately for me, all Android devices launched with $1000 price tag since then
The Note 8 and Pixel 2 XL both cost $950. The only advantage is the Note comes with expandable storage which is awesome but then I also have to look for a smartwatch.Yes, I haven't ruled it out yet. I am still thinking on it. The iris scanner on the Note doesn't seem to work properly with glasses so the biometrics are a problem with that device. The Pixel 2 XL comes with an LG display. TheVErge called the V30 display unusable so I am waiting for the Pixel reviews. If its the blue tinted dim display, I am going for iPhone X
It's more of a case of fairly typical hyperbole with extremes and absolutes, which all then gets deflected, adjusted, revised, etc. when and as needed or is convenient.
No its a case of no choice unless I buy mid range phones. From hereon in, if I want to upgrade smartphones, $1000 is the baseline. The industry has moved onto this pricing structure. Its unavoidable now. The customer has been told "If you want worthy upgrades, shell out $1000, otherwise there's the door".
But you were SO disgusted with the $1000 price tag. Enough so, that you literally said you would throw all your stuff in the trash. That doesn’t sound like something someone would say if they were that addiment and against paying $1000 only to easily be convinced it’s ok because some phones on the other platform also begin charging very similar prices.
Funny how you say this about devices, and are ok with it. But when it comes to your constant unhappiness with iOS and told to venture to Android and be happy, it’s a ludicrous comment.
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Stay on the 7+ until a worthy upgrade is in the line up at the price you want to pay? That’s generally what people do with everything that they don’t agree on the price with. IE wait until it is affordable.
No one is forcing you to update annually, or pay $1000.
I don’t care about chrome as I dont use it, so whether it had slow or fast inertial scrolling is irrelevant to me.
To be fair however, he is quoting the company's mindset with that comment, not the consumer's. There has been a shift lately to premium pricing in smartphones that eclipses the $1000 mark, both on the iOS and Android platforms. If you're looking for a top tier flagship, price is hardly a differentiating factor any longer.
I understand that and I also understand people are discussing a narrow sliver of the total of iOS with these animations. My original comment was ios 11b2 is flying on my 5s. Part of it is due to better scrolling in safari.
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