Because those animation bugs on iOS 10 were just that. Bugs. They were all addressed with updates. They didn’t seem planned. Just like how the 3D Touch “lag” on iOS 11 is a bug. I know that’s not done intentionally, and I heard that it’s been fixed in iOS 11.1 Beta 3. Now that’s a bug. The home button lag? That is not a bug. That has been done intentionally.
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Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions
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Because those animation bugs on iOS 10 were just that. Bugs. They were all addressed with updates. They didn’t seem planned. Just like how the 3D Touch “lag” on iOS 11 is a bug. I know that’s not done intentionally, and I heard that it’s been fixed in iOS 11.1 Beta 3. Now that’s a bug. The home button lag? That is not a bug. That has been done intentionally.
Except that's not what various people were saying at the time, similar to how various people are saying things about this now. That's the whole point.
You seem to be having a hard time distinguishing between a "bug" and something that has been done "intentionally". Just looking at those animation glitches on iOS 10 were enough to tell that they're bugs. They were "glitchy" with choppy animations. The home button animation in the 7 on iOS 11 is smooth. Not glitchy at all. Its just the delay. What does that say?
Apps are sandboxed, they don't affect each other. Different carrier settings aren't going to affect animation smoothness or input responsiveness.
What happened in iOS 10 based on further reading is an animation stutter or lag when closing an app like 3D Touch. There was no delay in response to input. Input lag and fps drops are 2 different things. If you go to accessibility settings on iOS 10 and set home click speed to slower it replicates the default home button of iOS 11. This suggests it's not a bug but done on purpose. And it won't be fixed because in the latest beta it has actually gotten a bit worse than before.
You won't find a single complaint of iPhone 7 Plus stuttering on iOS 10 from my post history. Yes iPhone 6 was stuttering. What has happened is that you are grouping my posts of iPhone 6 stutters on earlier versions of iOS 10 and iPhone 7 and drawing a conclusion. Let me make it perfectly clear my iphone 6 on iOS 10 did not recover its original launch speed.
Those thoughts were on an older device. I may have forgotten but can you find ou find a post about me complaining about stuttering on iPhone 7 on iOS 10?
my SE feels no slower (or faster, for that matter) in ios11 than it did in ios10. i don't care what the 7 or 7plus has, am only reporting my experience with my phone....
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we expect, reasonably so, for os issues to be tackled in updates. that's logical. so, yes, there are issues, and yes, we should see some resolve over time.
but 'clear as day'? you still have no PROOF that apple 'factually slowed down home button", ETC. you're still spouting your opinion, a theory. facts require actual proof, and are not proved by belief.
if you're in a room with 3 other people, and you each have a different theory about what's happening with ios11, who's right? you? because you 'know' you're right? think this thru...
Then why are you even talking about this? You haven’t experienced the slowdown. It didn’t affect phones with physical home buttons. As far as I know, on phones with physical home buttons, iOS 11 is a tad bit faster at closing apps when kept side by side with the same device running iOS 10.
my main argument here is about people making up theories, and promoting those theories as fact. really, am not a fan of conspiracy theories; but it's useless, isn't it? people believe what they choose to believe. am gonna endeavor to avoid this thread (it's hard to do, sigh...).
Right now, that’s the only explanation. No other reason why they would reduce the the app close time with the iPhone 7 when it came out, and then slow it down with iOS 11.
'that's the only explanation'... according to you. how hard is this for people to comprehend? a theory is not a fact. facts require proof. theories are a free-for-all, where, whatever one believes, it MUST be true. useless, once there are 2 or more people in the room. are there issues with ios12? of course. and, when this forum is at it's best, we're all busy asking questions, or offering advice... or rationally discussing issues, needs. leave the conspiracy theories to the flat earth people, the 9/11 deniers, etc.
the real world, difficult as it is, is... the real world.
Just like people were having a hard time differentiating the same thing in iOS 10 days it appears given what they were saying at the time. Revisionism doesn't change what actually happened.
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Just like for different people that was the only type of explanation about various things with early iOS 10 versions. We see how that worked out.
The people who said iOS 10 animation bugs were planned, are stupid. I wasn’t one of them. I only complained how the battery life on my 6s with only 80 charge cycles, was 1 hour less than what it was on iOS 9. That was after a restore and setting up as a new iPhone.
Thing is, all the bugs on iOS 10 were bugs. Just like the 3D Touch bug on iOS 11. The home button delay isn’t a bug. If what you’re saying is right, Apple should fix it with iOS 11.1. We will wait and see.
Ah, now those people were stupid and it's different this time. Sentiments that were similarly applied/implied to how things were seen in relation to what was going on in iOS 10 compared to some earlier things in early days of iOS 9, or 8, or 7, etc.
Ultimately, it seems like we've hit one of the main points (that has been brought up before) at the end there though: we will wait and see.
The proof has been posted multiple times in this thread
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I think I understand what you are getting at. According to you, unless and until 100% or at least a majority of Apple's customers worldwide complain about this issue, it does not exist and only a minority suffer from it which makes it an isolated issue. Well here's some info. Apple didn't need to fix the 3DT stutter. I guarantee the average user never noticed it and it was only a minority of users on sites like these complaining about it but that does not mean the issue did not exist. It factually did exist and was fixed in this beta. The home button delay DOES exist just like the 3DT stutter. I can post a comparison video of my 2nd gen iPad Pro 12.9 vs iPad Air 2, iPhone 6, iPhone 7 Plus all running iOS 11 and the iPad Pro is the fastest at closing an app.
As said above the delay does exist. Now there are 2 possibilities. Apple cares about it enough to fix it. The other possibility is Apple doesn't care. So far it hasn't been fixed which leads me to Possibility 2 and any scenario which is a subset of Possibility 2 is intentional.
But where is this theory you speak of. The delay has been shown to exist on video. It hasn't been fixed till now. In fact its only getting worse. What message is this sending? If Apple wants to fix this, will it take a year till 11.3.3? Well whoop de do because I would already be buying a new phone without a home button by then. Thanks a lot Apple
The home button delay is a fact. Whether you believe its intentional or not is your prerogative but the complete lack of interest by Apple so far heavily suggests this isn't going to be fixed. Its not even getting better.
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And yet time and time again same type of examples of similar things showing up in early iOS 10 days and getting addressed over time and not being part of some sort of intention malicious conspiracy.
Supposedly they were tweaking the home button throughout iOS 10 all the way till 10.3.3. They have done nothing so far and we are already on 11.1 Beta 3. ALso that issue was only affecting iPhone 7. This issue affects all iPhones currently.
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One hour less battery life for an iOS update is the norm but I am getting exactly half on my iPhone 7 Plus on iOS 11. According to Apple iPhone 8 Plus has the same battery life as the iPhone 7 Plus and they are getting 14 hours and I cant exceed 7 hours with 150 charge cycles (I think) and 97% battery health
Less than a month after the release we are already going with "heavily suggests"...yet taking a step back from it all and taking an actual impartial look at it, if anything, things heavily suggest that there isn't much being suggested (let alone heavily) one way or another at this point. (Those type of similarly supposed heavy suggestions in the early iOS 10 days certainly din't quite pan out.)
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are you experiencing a delay? yes. are others? yes. is everyone??? and is apple doing this intentionally? am not arguing what you're experiencing. but 'here's some info", "i guarantee", "there are 2 possibilities"... look at your statements; they're YOUR opinions, observations. you do not speak for all apple users, only those who experience what you experience. and, once again, it's you who need to prove the 'home button delay' is intentional... otherwise, it's just something you've made up to justify your suspicions.
Lets be more precise. The issue exists for everyone just like the 3DT stutter existed for everyone. Whether you experience or notice it is another story
I am speaking for all Apple customers when I say the issue exists. They may not experience it but the issue is there and when they update their phone to a build where the issue is fixed, they will notice it and be even happier with their devices. Case in point being the 3DT stutter. I don't own magical iPhones or iPads not do the hundreds of other users experiencing this issue.
As far as proof goes, these are the facts so far. iPhone X has instant home button response. The iPhone 7 doesn't while it used to on iOS 10. Why was there a downgrade done in input responsiveness?
Can you show evidence of an iPhone 7 or earlier not experiencing the lag? That, and the slower animations (particularly app launching animations) which were noticeable immediately upon upgrading, have killed the iOS experience for me.
I can’t speak for Apple’s intentions, but the longer this drags on the more damage they’re doing to their reputation. It’s making me less likely to upgrade, not more likely, because I feel my trust in their product has been compromised.
The lag is horrendous.
you speak for "all Apple customers"? am sure i didn't sign off on that. but your best line: "They may not experience it but the issue is there". and you have yet to prove intent.
I am not sure why that statement bothers you. I have a stuck bright white pixel on my Dell P2414H on the bottom left of my display. But no one in my family notices this issue. Does this mean the issue does not exist?
Its intentional because it was instant on iOS 10. Its no longer instant on iOS 11 and on the upcoming iPhone X it is instant. The iPhone X is going to wipe the floor with the iPhone 8 in speed tests once it launches and yet you will still say "no proof".
You insisted earlier in this very thread that this was planned obsolescence, that it would not materialize on the 8. You were wrong.
Basically, what I'm say is that your theories don't count for very much.
Good luck getting this fixed and if as you say it will take till iOS 11.3 to fix it, Apple has already failed because it will be time to buy a new phone by then.
Again if this issue is fixed along with the battery drain and the widgets stutter within a month or so, I am fine with iOS 11
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Your arbitrary time limits mean nothing to me or anyone else, least of all Apple. You're going to rush out and buy the X.
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