Apple has PURPOSELY introduced lag/delay with Home Button interactions

[I7guy]

Lets be more precise. The issue exists for everyone just like the 3DT stutter existed for everyone. Whether you experience or notice it is another story


I am speaking for all Apple customers when I say the issue exists. They may not experience it but the issue is there and when they update their phone to a build where the issue is fixed, they will notice it and be even happier with their devices. Case in point being the 3DT stutter. I don't own magical iPhones or iPads not do the hundreds of other users experiencing this issue.

As far as proof goes, these are the facts so far. iPhone X has instant home button response. The iPhone 7 doesn't while it used to on iOS 10. Why was there a downgrade done in input responsiveness?

No you are not speaking for me. This is similar to battery life and the variation in battery life people are reporting.

 

[Radon87000]

Your arbitrary time limits mean nothing to me or anyone else, least of all Apple. You're going to rush out and buy the X.

In other words, this is not going to be fixed in a reasonable amount of time.
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No you are not speaking for me. This is similar to battery life and the variation in battery life people are reporting.

Post a video and I will point it out. Otherwise this doesn't contradict anything I said. Issue exists on all devices. It goes unnoticed by many.

 

[Feenician]

In other words, this is not going to be fixed in a reasonable amount of time.

I don't know. You don't know. Nobody outside of Apple knows. It's not even clear it needs to be "fixed" at all.

 

[C DM]

Lets be more precise. The issue exists for everyone just like the 3DT stutter existed for everyone. Whether you experience or notice it is another story


I am speaking for all Apple customers when I say the issue exists. They may not experience it but the issue is there and when they update their phone to a build where the issue is fixed, they will notice it and be even happier with their devices. Case in point being the 3DT stutter. I don't own magical iPhones or iPads not do the hundreds of other users experiencing this issue.

As far as proof goes, these are the facts so far. iPhone X has instant home button response. The iPhone 7 doesn't while it used to on iOS 10. Why was there a downgrade done in input responsiveness?

Seems like fact of iPhone X having instant home button response (where there is no home button there at all) would fall into the alternative fact category.

 

[fisherking]

I am not sure why that statement bothers you. I have a stuck bright white pixel on my Dell P2414H on the bottom left of my display. But no one in my family notices this issue. Does this mean the issue does not exist?


Its intentional because it was instant on iOS 10. Its no longer instant on iOS 11 and on the upcoming iPhone X it is instant. The iPhone X is going to wipe the floor with the iPhone 8 in speed tests once it launches and yet you will still say "no proof".

your dell? if you have a stuck pixel you have a stuck pixel. what does that have to do with the issues discussed in this thread? or are you saying that all dell monitors have a stuck pixel?

am glad you can predict the future with the X. meanwhile, you've still not proven any intent with apple. and you still don't speak for all apple ios users.

 

[C DM]

In other words, this is not going to be fixed in a reasonable amount of time.

Suddenly goal posts are being moved to "reasonable amount of time". How unexpected.

 

[Radon87000]

Seems like fact of iPhone X having instant home button response (where there is no home button there at all) would fall into the alternative fact category.

I am talking of that home bar at the bottom. Swiping up to close the app is instant

Suddenly goal posts are being moved to "reasonable amount of time". How unexpected.

I am saying it wont be fixed. The others are saying it will be fixed. So I am asking whether it will take a year or month to fix it? That question was dodged which is why I said that.

 

[C DM]

Good luck getting this fixed and if as you say it will take till iOS 11.3 to fix it, Apple has already failed because it will be time to buy a new phone by then.

Again if this issue is fixed along with the battery drain and the widgets stutter within a month or so, I am fine with iOS 11

They weren't fixed within a month or so iOS 10, yet that ios 10 is praised and used as an example of perfection. The double talk is just so prevalent that saying that it's silly would just be silly.

 

[Radon87000]

your dell? if you have a stuck pixel you have a stuck pixel. what does that have to do with the issues discussed in this thread? or are you saying that all dell monitors have a stuck pixel?

Point of that example was to show an issue can exist and go unnoticed which does not mean the issue does not exist. So when I say I speak for all Apple users, I mean the issue is there on the device and its going unnoticed. Once it is fixed, more customers will be happier with their devices

am glad you can predict the future with the X.

Again I posted a gif on this a while back where on the iPhone X the app closes in tandem with your finger. With the home button's current implementation, you press the button, wait 1 second or so before it closes. There is absolutely no question the iPhone X is faster. If you were talking about the home button on iOS 10 then maybe there would have been a contest

meanwhile, you've still not proven any intent with apple

Then explain why does this delay exist when it didn't on iOS 10? Who changed it?

 

[C DM]

I am talking of that home bar at the bottom. Swiping up to close the app is instant

So no home button at all. Interesting how the word "fact" is being thrown in when what is said just doesn't reflect basic reality.

I am saying it wont be fixed. The others are saying it will be fixed. So I am asking whether it will take a year or month to fix it? That question was dodged which is why I said that.

Things aren't dodged when goal posts are constantly being moved and things are just being deflected consistently.

 

[Radon87000]

I don't know. You don't know. Nobody outside of Apple knows. It's not even clear it needs to be "fixed" at all.

At least you admit the issue exists. Fisherking refuses to believe the issue even exists at all.

 

[C DM]

The fairly constant flow of fallacies, inconsistencies, double-talk, deflections, movement of goal posts, etc. seems to only lead us all to one conclusion: alternative facts are being intentionally disseminated. It's fun to come up with theories and jump to conclusions that are then circularly used to imply some sort of proof.

 

[I7guy]

In other words, this is not going to be fixed in a reasonable amount of time.
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Post a video and I will point it out. Otherwise this doesn't contradict anything I said. Issue exists on all devices. It goes unnoticed by many.

Why, you’ll just tell me I’m using it wrong because I’m not experiencing what you are. Maybe you should post a video?

 

[Radon87000]

So no home button at all. Interesting how the word "fact" is being thrown in when what is said just doesn't reflect basic reality.

I said it had instant home button response. I was talking about the close app function on the iPhone X. Or do we always write "swipe up to close app is instant on iPhone X".
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Why, you’ll just tell me I’m using it wrong because I’m not experiencing what you are

Its nothing complicated. Open an app. Press the home button. Does it take 1 second after you press the button?

Maybe you should post a video?

I already did. Its on the first page. The streamable link is my iPhone 7 losing to iPhone 6 in closing apps

 

[C DM]

I said it had instant home button response. I was talking about the close app function on the iPhone X. Or do we always write "swipe up to close app is instant on iPhone X".

There is no home button response when there is no home button.

 

[Radon87000]

There is no home button response when there is no home button.

I was talking about that bar or whatever its called. It disappears on the home screen. You know very well what I was talking about

 

[fisherking]

At least you admit the issue exists. Fisherking refuses to believe the issue even exists at all.

"Point of that example was to show an issue can exist and go unnoticed which does not mean the issue does not exist."

an issue can exist for you, and some people don't notice it. so yes, the issue would still be real. but you're applying a small matter at home to a larger one that affects ALL ios11 users... you can't possibly speak for ALL ios11 users.

meanwhile, i continually acknowledge that the issue exists... for some. you haven't proven (and can't possibly prove) that it exists for all. why is that so hard to grasp?

 

[C DM]

I was talking about that bar or whatever its called. It disappears on the home screen. You know very well what I was talking about

Basically in a dissuasion about facts, what is said isn't really what is meant, but something else is actually meant by it (which can even later be revised as well). That's not even in the remote vicinity of something where facts would come into play.

 

[Radon87000]

"Point of that example was to show an issue can exist and go unnoticed which does not mean the issue does not exist."

an issue can exist for you, and some people don't notice it. so yes, the issue would still be real. but you're applying a small matter at home to a larger one that affects ALL ios11 users... you can't possibly speak for ALL ios11 users.

meanwhile, i continually acknowledge that the issue exists... for some. you haven't proven (and can't possibly prove) that it exists for all. why is that so hard to grasp?

So we own magical iPhones? Somehow this delay disappears when we downgrade to iOS 10 but when we upgrade to iOS 11 it rears its ugly head again. And I am talking about clean install. A brand new install with nothing on it. Just Apple's stock apps. You can even uninstall those. And its still there. This means its a software issue. And its the same software installed on all phones having same hardware. Is my clean install phone worse than a loaded iPhone?

 

[C DM]

Then explain why does this delay exist when it didn't on iOS 10? Who changed it?

So basically you know and admit that you (nor basically anyone else, at least here) knows. Yet at the same time supposedly factual absolute extreme conclusions of intentional malicious conspiracy can be drawn and spread. It simply doesn't follow.

 

[fisherking]

So we own magical iPhones? Somehow this delay disappears when we downgrade to iOS 10 but when we upgrade to iOS 11 it rears its ugly head again. And I am talking about clean install. A brand new install with nothing on it. Just Apple's stock apps. You can even uninstall those. And its still there. This means its a software issue. And its the same software installed on all phones having same hardware. Is my clean install phone worse than a loaded iPhone?

when you say 'we', who are you speaking for? the people experiencing the issue? or all iphone users? if you truly think you speak for ALL of the ios11 userbase... then it is you who are truly magical....

EDIT: my GF has suggested, twice, that i abandon this thread; that conspiracy theorists don't abandon their beliefs just because you've presented them with rational thinking. so am bailing. i hope future ios updates fix most issues & bugs. there will ALWAYS be bugs, and there will always be people having issues; hence, these forums. peace!

 

[Radon87000]

when you say 'we', who are you speaking for? the people experiencing the issue? or all iphone users? if you truly think you speak for ALL of the ios11 userbase... then it is you who are truly magical....

By we I was talking about those suffering from this issue. You are saying we own unique phones and the majority of the iPhone user base does not have this delay on their hardware and it's not going unnoticed. It does not exist so no question of getting noticed. So now according to you, our phones are magical and they somehow do not have his delay on iOS 10 and suddenly suffer from this delay on iOS 11.

 

[d5aqoëp]

By we I was talking about those suffering from this issue. You are saying we own unique phones and the majority of the iPhone user base does not have this delay on their hardware and it's not going unnoticed. It does not exist so no question of getting noticed. So now according to you, our phones are magical and they somehow do not have his delay on iOS 10 and suddenly suffer from this delay on iOS 11.

He knows that Home Button delay issue exists for ALL iPhones equipped with HomeButton on iOS 11. Now he is just arguing for the heck of it. He might have to totally stop posting on MR if this so called bug is not fixed by iOS 12 B1 next year.

But I also hope that Apple takes care of this issue once and for all and shuts us up.

 

[C DM]

He knows that Home Button delay issue exists for ALL iPhones equipped with HomeButton on iOS 11. Now he is just arguing for the heck of it. He might have to totally stop posting on MR if this so called bug is not fixed by iOS 12 B1 next year.

But I also hope that Apple takes care of this issue once and for all and shuts us up.

What about others who have said one thing only for it to never happen or for them to turn around and not do that thing or do the opposite of it--some of which has been pointed out in this thread? Should they also "might have to totally stop posting on MR" by that logic?

 

[I7guy]

This does not happen on my 6s nor one my 7. No one second wait, no blocking; around 1/4 of a second if not less.