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iPad Pro Apple have you lost your mind...$1,950...
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Sorry but you’re wrong.. I always vote with my wallet. I’m not a follower.
Maybe you were talking about yourself which is ok
I guess I don't understand the point of this post. The OP states he doesn't want one. So don't get one? Can we close this?
One aspect I do not understand; what is the use case for the top end device?
I do a lot on my IPP 11 2020 and can't see the need.
I do a lot on my IPP 11 2020 and can't see the need.
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If Apple actually allowed us to use these $2000 iPads as real computers, or even just gave us their suite of pro apps for iPadOS, then I think the $2000 would be a bargain thinking about how powerful and convenient editing on it would be.
But without pro apps, yes, it's insane pricing.
edit -And anyone who already owns an iPad and is upgrading to the M1s is just insane. Nothing is different, it just does everything an iPad Pro does a little bit faster and has a few more features. That mini LED screen must be fantastic, but it's just for more Netflix and YouTube streaming, not for any kind of meaningful work except maybe if you use it as an illustrator(still too expensive).
Apple needs to drop a legit update for iPadOS until these M1 iPads get worth looking at.
But without pro apps, yes, it's insane pricing.
edit -And anyone who already owns an iPad and is upgrading to the M1s is just insane. Nothing is different, it just does everything an iPad Pro does a little bit faster and has a few more features. That mini LED screen must be fantastic, but it's just for more Netflix and YouTube streaming, not for any kind of meaningful work except maybe if you use it as an illustrator(still too expensive).
Apple needs to drop a legit update for iPadOS until these M1 iPads get worth looking at.
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I predict iPadOS 15 will open up more capabilities with the new hardware.
They're coming to iPadOS. It's easy to read these tea leaves.
When they do then I will take another look.
For my current use, the IPP 11 2020 does everything I need or can throw at it with software being the limiting factor.
It would be cool if your prediction comes to fruition.
I hope you're right, as I bought an M1, but I doubt it... Apple isn't about to excuse any of us from spending an additional $1500 on a new laptop/desktop, they want us to buy both products. Besides, if iPadOS 15 really takes advantage of the new M1 then what about the hundreds of millions of users with previous generation iPads? Apple isn't about to disenfranchise them.
I ordered one also, also in space gray. Wish Brydge had their timing together, so these were ready to ship now, instead of in June.
They will if they don’t want their market stolen from them.
I think there's a pretty good conversation here about that very thing... there's no doubt that with what Microsoft offers, or the new Samsung Tab S7 line, you can do a lot more with tablets than Apple allows iPad users to do, but then again, most tablet users just want something to read internet, interact with social media and watch streaming TV/movies. So 95% of the market is just fine sticking with Apple regardless to what the market provides around them.
Yeah they absolutely love to do that. I think the industry has moved too hard in the convergence direction though so I don't think they have much choice but to respond. That being said, I still think they are going to respond in true Apple fashion. The wider industry is moving toward stuff like the Surface Pro 7 where you have a tablet and "real" laptop (software wise) which can give you the freedom of a single device. But keep this limited to the iPad Pro as long as they can to make sure it is only purchased in a manner that is least likely to cannibalize their Mac sales and if it did they managed to pull you up toward a level where you've spent enough to have purchased a Mac and an iPad anyway... Since Apple doesn't list unit sales they probably care more about your overall spending than which exact device mix you spend it on.
My wife asked me to cancel her 2021 IPP pre-order and got a MacBook instead. She went with the 13" M1 Pro, but for the price of what I snagged by 2021 1TB IPP for you could easily buy a MacBook Air + an iPad Air.
Is OP trolling? I'm confused too.
I think you are missing pdoherty's point. Or perhaps I am interpreting it incorrectly. But I think they were arguing that Apple understands that it is better for Apple to cannibalize their own sales than for another company to do so. And thus it is in Apple's best interests to provide a more robust OS features in padOS.
I don’t see it. Keep trying to make the iPad into a Mac and risk running off the ones who simply want an iPad
I don’t want pro apps that will never be remotely as good as their Mac versions. I have a laptop for that. I want Apple to improve what an iPad is already good at doing. Better entertainment. Better drawing. Better with working with a Mac.
Lol, a $600 Ryzen 15.6" ThinkPad is actually easier for my work (remote desktop to office PC, mostly Excel) than a pricey MacBook. Function keys, separate Backspace and Delete keys, Num Pad, etc.
For my usage, cheap Windows PC with standard parts I can repair/upgrade (M.2 SSD, SO-DIMM) + tricked out iPad is better.
Why are ALL of these price comparisons only for a completely maxed out model?
It has thunderbolt, which makes large amounts of internal storage much less necessary than every before.
I also keep seeing "Why would I spend $2,000 on an iPad when I can get a Mac Mini for $899"
Um... you absolutely cannot get a Mac Mini with the same CPU/GPU (the 8/8 model), the same amount of RAM and the same amount of storage as an iPad Pro. In fact, when you spec them the same, the cost becomes pretty similar.
It's expensive, and Apple has ALWAYS gouged on upgrades to a nauseating degree. But it's not a $2,000 iPad. It's a $1,000 iPad.
It has thunderbolt, which makes large amounts of internal storage much less necessary than every before.
I also keep seeing "Why would I spend $2,000 on an iPad when I can get a Mac Mini for $899"
Um... you absolutely cannot get a Mac Mini with the same CPU/GPU (the 8/8 model), the same amount of RAM and the same amount of storage as an iPad Pro. In fact, when you spec them the same, the cost becomes pretty similar.
It's expensive, and Apple has ALWAYS gouged on upgrades to a nauseating degree. But it's not a $2,000 iPad. It's a $1,000 iPad.
Lol, a $600 Ryzen 15.6" ThinkPad is actually easier for my work (remote desktop to office PC, mostly Excel) than a pricey MacBook. Function keys, separate Backspace and Delete keys, Num Pad, etc.
For my usage, cheap Windows PC with standard parts I can repair/upgrade (M.2 SSD, SO-DIMM) + tricked out iPad is better.
My direction also however I still fail to see what the new iPad Pro gets me. My ThinkPad hybrid (X280) and 2020 IPP pretty much cover everything I need.
If the device you have already does everything you need, then obviously, no need.
At least for me, I'm upgrading from a 2017 512GB so the 2021 1TB is a significant upgrade.
Apple’s competition is so far behind now that market stealing is not going to happen, just minor chipping away at share if and only if Android gets its act together on the tablet front, which I don’t anticipate happening anytime soon. The is assumes Apple just coasts, which they aren’t doing.
Apple’s competition is so far behind now that market stealing is not going to happen, just minor chipping away at share if and only if Android gets its act together on the tablet front, which I don’t anticipate happening anytime soon. The is assumes Apple just coasts, which they aren’t doing
There is no point to his post other than to get a response from others and then be condescending as though he grasps some important universal truth that the rest of us don’t, which consists of him being the gatekeeper of how much something should cost and how much profit Apple should be allowed. Same ****, different poster. I vote for closing the thread.
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