Apple 31.7% share vs Samsung 20% is definitely not a lead to coast on.
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Apple 31.7% share vs Samsung 20% is definitely not a lead to coast on.
Yea I think it has gone to a 4 year cycle min for those that want bang for their buck instead on throwing money away.
consumers do have that right to counteract ridiculous prices in that way and save money as well
And Apple isn’t coasting. Tell me who has even close to a comparable lineup to the iPads we have to choose from? Absolutely zero companies, most of which are no name Chinese brands selling crap tablets on Amazon with colorful nonsensical brand names. As long as Apple gets their act together with iPadOS 15 (not holding my breath, but hope springs eternal), they will stay in the lead. Android sure isn’t making any meaningful headway yet. To be sure, I’m interested in acquiring an Android tablet just to be fair, but I don’t expect much. My Kindle Fire tablets are okay, but mostly they’re just there to sell Prime subscriptions.
Nailed it.
I agree - I have a 12.9 iPP and six different Android tablets. But Apple needs to get its act together on the s/w side of things. Beautiful, powerful hardware (the new Pro's) is nice but so is DeX mode on Samsung. Because of iOS shortcomings, I cannot bring myself to upgrade at the current prices and would strongly consider other options if replacement were necessary.
I am old enough to remember when an Osborne I (CP/M) with 64K RAM (when most computers had 8K or 16K), a 5” monochrome screen, and dual 90K single-sided floppy drives (which most used a standard cassette tape recorder for storage) cost $1895 in 1982 dollars. An IBM XT with dual 320K or 360K floppies and maybe 256K RAM and a monochrome monitor ran about $5K with a dot matrix printer and an XT (whopping 10 MB) hard drive with printer was about $10K. A laser printer that couldn’t even print graphics was over $3K.
I’ll admit I have sticker shock paying for higher-end phones and iPad Pros and fret about spending the money but when I look back at prices I’ve paid for gear that was much, much less capable, what you get today, regardless of your chosen specs and price points, is absolutely amazing and wonderful. First world problems, and I’m grateful that that’s what I have to “worry” about.
I’ll admit I have sticker shock paying for higher-end phones and iPad Pros and fret about spending the money but when I look back at prices I’ve paid for gear that was much, much less capable, what you get today, regardless of your chosen specs and price points, is absolutely amazing and wonderful. First world problems, and I’m grateful that that’s what I have to “worry” about.
lol - I'll go back farther in my own history - the MITS Altair 8800 for $439 in 1975 - that's $2333 today. Bad comparison, though - who needs a monitor when you have front panel LEDs? Did have to fess up for a paper tape drive or a cassette drive (and had to buy the I/O card for it). My first "PC".
My list of showstoppers
- iPadOS’ half-assed multi-screen implementation has to be addressed.
- Files.app, need I say more?
- Recording audio from a third party app running in the background, like Zoom, while using the primary audio app. Podcasters are waiting for this single feature alone.
- PDF handling, saving to PDF from the Print Dialog is needed, as the Share sheet is not universally available to export as PDF.
There are other things, too numerous to list. Android is fine with me, I do dislike Google as a company, but I try not to let that color my opinion of Android.
I do think Apple is serious this time as including 8GB/16GB of DRAM in the iPP 2021 was not in any way necessary. I’m cautious, but hopeful.
The potential is definitely there and I have to think that there are people in the engineering staff at Apple who see that - they need to convince the bean counters and possibly some old-timers that it is worth pursuing. You look at the current hardware platform and can only dream of the possibilities.
Uhh, someone who needed that machine? Hate to break it to you but $2000 is pretty good for a top of the line computer in the year 2021. Break out an inflation calculator and go look at the prices of some computers from a decade or two ago. Fact is, computers have gotten much cheaper over time, even as the specs and capabilities have grown exponentially.
Buy what suits you OP.
The Apple pricing has been this way since forever. I remember being bored ten years ago speccing up Macs on the website, was easily reaching large figures!
The Apple pricing has been this way since forever. I remember being bored ten years ago speccing up Macs on the website, was easily reaching large figures!
Here's a single example -- a white G3 iBook I owned back in 2001. The base model was about $1300 at the time. If you factor in inflation... that's about $2K, or roughly the price of the iPad Pro you're too cheap to buy today. And remember this is a baseline consumer-level iBook, which isn't at all on the same tier as that iPad Pro. And you can go to more or less any year and find a similar price story.
Sorry, man. The facts are just against you here. But good luck to you!
Yup. The gap between hardware and software is just so glaring at this point. The iPad Pro is a super badass computer running an overgrown phone OS. I'm more of a Mac user myself, but this all just seems like a waste.
You know what the Samsung does not have though? The iPad’s aspect ratio. If it did, I’d opt for the Samsung any day and would probably use it even more than I use my iPad, which I use a lot anyway.
Hahahaha well said. There is no deep truth here. Apple is appealing to all income levels.
Edited to add: I mean it would be different if the entry level iPad sucked, or even the iPad Air 4 sucked. Instead they all rock and if you want something that rocks even more? Get the overpriced monstrosity. And let's face it--if you are getting that thing, you have "f you" money anyway.
Watch apple announce that you can run MacOS on only this iPad at WWDC and we all go whoops.
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who are the ones who have lost their minds? the company that puts out a price tag on a certain item or the people who willingly spend the money to buy them?
if the price was too expensive, Apple wouldn’t be able to sell them and would therefore lower the price.
if the price was too expensive, Apple wouldn’t be able to sell them and would therefore lower the price.
I would have bought it without questions if it could help do my job. I’m a software developer and I would love to be able to use it in some occasions and run full macOS on the go. Now I can only use it to consume media so my 2018 iPad Pro is perfectly fine for this job.
Apple has to strike a balance between power and simplicity, which has been hit or miss with iPadOS. There are workflows that require hoops to jump through and shouldn’t still be difficult to accomplish in the year 2021. I think the inclusion of Thunderbolt 3 is great, however, I really don’t feel great that iPadOS is going to be able to deal with the myriad of docks and devices that can now hook up to this iPad Pro.
Case in point - I have a UA Apollo Twin MkII that works great with a TB3<—>TB2 adapter. Will it work with well with the new iPad Pro directly connected or over my El Gato TB2 dock? Will UA ever create a version of their Luna DAW for iOS? They have zero products for iOS at this point.
Will my Thunderbolt 1 (CalDigit) or TB2 (El Gato) docks work at all? What caveats are there with the TB3 port on the iPP?
Will we finally get access to some variant of Xcode, FCP X or Logic Studio? Apples had a solid 10 years to work on them and adapt to the touch first paradigm. Surely they can get it accomplished in 10 years.
Apple has to be aware of these wants by people who use and prefer the iPad. Are they going to address them ever? Or just keep giving us overpowered hardware at premium prices with an operating system that always seems to be on the cusp, but never gets there? If so, that’s the fleece, and we’re all the marks. That’s the part that truly makes me mad.
That big ipad pro 12.9” M1 just seems to close in size and weight to a M1 Macbook Pro/Air to me. So I am getting the 11” 1TB/16GB Cellular model.
I would always rather have a Macbook over an ipad. Especially with the new M1 Macbooks (beastly power)
Now if someone is an artist, I totally agree that a iPad is the better option. You can draw on it, and with the power of M1 now. It is a no brainer for sure. I say go for a 12.9” ipad..
I can grab a 11” iPad Pro M1 16GB/1TB for $53 bucks a month through my cellular company AT&T. I just need to pay the taxes. So that’s about $120 lol.
I think 1TB is the sweet spot. My M1 Macbook Air is also 16GB/1TB.
I could care less about the XDR display. I think it would kill the experience of my other devices. Apples IPS 11” LCD is absolutely stunning as it is!
I would always rather have a Macbook over an ipad. Especially with the new M1 Macbooks (beastly power)
Now if someone is an artist, I totally agree that a iPad is the better option. You can draw on it, and with the power of M1 now. It is a no brainer for sure. I say go for a 12.9” ipad..
I can grab a 11” iPad Pro M1 16GB/1TB for $53 bucks a month through my cellular company AT&T. I just need to pay the taxes. So that’s about $120 lol.
I think 1TB is the sweet spot. My M1 Macbook Air is also 16GB/1TB.
I could care less about the XDR display. I think it would kill the experience of my other devices. Apples IPS 11” LCD is absolutely stunning as it is!
Use it with something like SplashTop and control your home Mac from anywhere. Possible to work that way, though slower than being on the Mac itself.
android and samsubg FAR FAR superior. see my posting on why I'm dumping my 2020 iPad pros.
I went the opposite direction, dumping 6 Android tablets and a couple of phones for iPad Pro and 12 Pro Max.
I would never say they are superior...both have pros and cons but I do like my iPad.
the iPad is still only slightly different than the first one I had...side piece that I do a lot on but it’s still the side piece...hence why I think Apple is getting away with deceiving people into thinking it might be the main...left over parts but always something new to raise the price. Ridiculous prices now to be a side piece
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