I actually didn’t mind him when he was at engadget and verge, he was the biggest apple apologist
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Other Apple is Really Bad at Design - Joshua Topolosky [MERGED]
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I actually didn’t mind him when he was at engadget and verge, he was the biggest apple apologist
Anyone who questions the pencil charging has never been in a meeting and had his/her pencil die with no other way to charge it.
AirPods are off and charging
in the case, the pencil wakes up every time I move my bag and wastes battery. A better solution will include inductive charging from the iPad itself but we’re just not there yet.
AirPods are off and charging
in the case, the pencil wakes up every time I move my bag and wastes battery. A better solution will include inductive charging from the iPad itself but we’re just not there yet.
The notch is ugly as hell. And, I will never buy a phone that has it.
The notch is horrible. However, I am getting an iPhone X. But that doesn't mean I will like it. I will have to try it.
If Apple really had "courage", and if they were really "innovative", they would have:
If Apple really had "courage", and if they were really "innovative", they would have:
- Not had a notch on the iPhone X at all.
- The front-facing camera and sensors would have been embedded in the glass using transparent components, or, these components would have been so small as to fit in the small black bezel that the iPhone X has around it.
- Overall, the iPhone X would have the same consistent bezel all around.
- The iPhone X would not be the thickest iPhone Apple has made in years (it's 7.7 mm thick, vs. 7.1 mm for the iPhone 6 Plus).
- The iPhone X would have true wireless charging.
- The iPhone X would cost roughly the same as last year's model.
- Apple would simplify its iPhone product line and make the iPhone 7 available for cheaper, and eliminating all the other old iPhones. Apple would push for everyone to upgrade to the one phone... the iPhone X.
“The justification for the notch (the new Face ID tech, which lets you unlock the device just by looking at it) could have easily been accomplished with no visual break in the display.”
Immediate fail. I read the rest but at this point, we know who we’re dealing with. An armchair engineer with no clue about manufacturing, whining because he doesn’t like the design.
Immediate fail. I read the rest but at this point, we know who we’re dealing with. An armchair engineer with no clue about manufacturing, whining because he doesn’t like the design.
Agreed, Topolosky is a dork and an armchair engineer. He doesn't know what he's talking about. But, the implication here is that Apple 'should' know how to do the iPhone X without a notch, and they didn't. They didn't not because it's not possible, but because it's no longer possible at Apple right now with Tim pipeline Cook leading it.
But that’s pure speculation without any credible foundation. I feel confident that if it was possible to embed the notch elements behind the display so it really is ‘all screen’, they would have done that. The idea that they couldn’t is plausible, in which case we’re getting the best that’s technologically possible at this time. The idea that they knew how but deliberately didn’t is a laughable conspiracy theory.
When I’ve finished reading a bit on these forums and go back to looking at the X again, I’m taken by how small and insignificant the notch actually is. You’d think it completely ruins the entire thing by some of the hysteria here. The reality is, it’s fine. Not perfect but it’s not going to get in the way unless you surf the net in landscape mode (nobody I know does this) or watch video at the incorrect aspect ratio.
YouTubers are picking on it for content. Simple as that. It gives them something to churn out video about.
Funny to read all the justification from “notch accepters”.. regardless of the article.
No excuses when something simply blocks the view when watching videos and pictures.
You can flip it however you want, this is a fact and as such, a bad design.
No excuses when something simply blocks the view when watching videos and pictures.
You can flip it however you want, this is a fact and as such, a bad design.
I think the notch is great! We need to step outside of this traditional square and rectangle screens. The notch just adds to the flavor of what else can we do?
Apple became lazy, because no matter what they do, it will sell well. BUT from a long term perspective it’s not very smart. I think there are much better designers than Jony Ive. Ive was a good designer when Steve Jobs made the final decision about the design of the next product. Just look at the battery case for iPhone. It’s the most unApple product I have ever seen in years.
Being lazy because of success is quite common thing in tech business. I hope that Apple will realize it soon. iPhone X is a bad design. You can discuss about it, being angry about it, but it’s true. The funny thing is the fact that it could be improved just by tweaking the UI, but Apple is just so arogant that they think they could turn bad design into something iconic.
Being lazy because of success is quite common thing in tech business. I hope that Apple will realize it soon. iPhone X is a bad design. You can discuss about it, being angry about it, but it’s true. The funny thing is the fact that it could be improved just by tweaking the UI, but Apple is just so arogant that they think they could turn bad design into something iconic.
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and as 90% of people here will reply -
"well, it's just your subjective opinion blah blah blah.. doesn't bother me at all blah blah..
Yeah, everything is subjective, but being critical is a good thing. It shows that we care.
Let me show you something. There is a historical school building in Czech Republic, which was recently thermaly rehabilated. It became a very discussed subject here in Czech Republic, because the insulation practically destroyed the building. Yet there are still people that think it’s ok. It’s not! The truth is not always in the middle.
The iPhone X is a bad design, but we can get use to it.
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The insulation totally destroyed the building there...... and I’d never seen that building before now, so I had zero biases coming in
well in your example you can still argue about modern/classic etc..
although of course i myself will prefer the classic style.
but in this case it's not an example that shows something impractical like the notch.
i am not arguing whether the design style of the notch is ugly or not. that's indeed subjective.
i'm only arguing the fact that it's impractical especially when the screen is in landscape.
it's not about style or bad taste. it's about ruining the users experience and enjoyment from the new nice screen.
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So your only contribution is an argumentum ad hominem?
Except for the fact he’s right. The notch only becomes a necessity when the requirement to have no top/bottom bezel is the overriding driver in the design.
Design is subjective and people reacting to it short term without being properly hands-on doesn’t mean it is 'wrong'. Too many people applying absolute, objective statements which is crazy
Lots of cars are like this - when there are model changes, poepel often react negatively to the new look because they are familiar with the existing one. But after a few months with the new model out, it becomes accepted and even starts to make the previous model look 'old', therefore encouraging people to upgrade.
I like that they’re taking this approach personally. The 'ears' functionally provide more usable real estate for apps vs a hard bezel, because the status bar now doesnt take up space - being moved up into the ears.
The only question mark really is down to 'why didn’t they colour it to match the notch'. That is just people trying to map the design to their familiarity of old design being solid bezels. When you are on the lock or home screen it makes sense not to be black so you can see more of your wallpaper reaching all the way to the top of the screen. Also logically it isn’t ideal to always be black as it would wear the OLED screen unevenly.
I'm sure people will quickly get used to it (and also people will quickly design wallpapers with black bars to 'force' a solid bezel). It’s the hyperbolic statements I find a little surprising
Lots of cars are like this - when there are model changes, poepel often react negatively to the new look because they are familiar with the existing one. But after a few months with the new model out, it becomes accepted and even starts to make the previous model look 'old', therefore encouraging people to upgrade.
I like that they’re taking this approach personally. The 'ears' functionally provide more usable real estate for apps vs a hard bezel, because the status bar now doesnt take up space - being moved up into the ears.
The only question mark really is down to 'why didn’t they colour it to match the notch'. That is just people trying to map the design to their familiarity of old design being solid bezels. When you are on the lock or home screen it makes sense not to be black so you can see more of your wallpaper reaching all the way to the top of the screen. Also logically it isn’t ideal to always be black as it would wear the OLED screen unevenly.
I'm sure people will quickly get used to it (and also people will quickly design wallpapers with black bars to 'force' a solid bezel). It’s the hyperbolic statements I find a little surprising
That's not what that member is stating at all. They're stating that he has credibility issues with being reliable and held accountable based off of previous past times.
Apple could have easily implemented FaceID into the top bezel, sacrificing display size. Instead, they sacrificed screen shape. His point is that it’s a poor design that could have been implemented in numerous ways without messing with the shape of the display.
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Meh. I don’t need to see a hexagon display to know I prefer four corners. The same can be said for my preferring of 24fps movies. I’m simply used to it. I don’t need to see Peter Jackson’s 48fps Hobbit to know that it will give the movie the Soap Opera Effect, even though Peter Jackson views this as “the future of filmmaking”. When you innovate, you need to do it right. This is an area that Jobs did better than most....clearly missing his hand here.
Design is subjective. My GF would rather have a Corolla over a Ferrari because the Ferrari looks like a “Batmobile”. This doesn’t mean that the vast majority of people prefer the Corolla’s design over the Ferrari.
You will be able to reduce the notch’s impact, but until Apple updates its software to blend the notch into the status bar, there’s no getting around it.
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Either way (current notch or Black blending) the top portion of the display is being utilized (in portrait mode). You’re not wasting space by blending the status bar into the rest of the display.
This is the design I would have chosen, but I would have flipped it and put the camera row on top:
