Other Apple is slowing down older iPhones based on battery wear level [MERGED]

[macsrcool1234]

I've done that several times over the years and honestly my experience has been that even batteries from suppliers I trust a lot, well-known businesses, don't perform as well as original Apple batteries. I'm not the only one who feels that way - there were some posts from another MR member yesterday that said the same, and he had detailed Excel spreadsheet tracking to back up his conclusions (I never bothered).

Confirmation bias.

As long as you buy from a good supplier, there is no difference. Apple doesn't do some magical voodoo to make the battery last longer.

 

[newellj]

Confirmation bias.

As long as you buy from a good supplier, there is no difference. Apple doesn't do some magical voodoo to make the battery last longer.

Nonsense. I started out assuming they all came from the same plant in China. Experience proved they did not all perform the same. And there's this:

On average, Apple batteries are FAR better than the competition. Just the 6s/6s+ batch had issues I think - and of that, only a small percentage. And instead of just replace all the millions of 6s/6s+ phones they tried to minimize the problem with the downclocking. (My guess). Out of the millions of 6s+/6s owners, maybe only 30-55k had problems and of that, only a few thousand knew about it. (again, this is a huge assumption on my part).

But in my experience, Apple Batteries are exemplary. My 6+ had ~240 cycles after almost 2 years, 97% life left. My 6s+ had 220? cycles after 1.7 years and 95% life left. My Samsung Note 3 after 150 cycles had less than 60% life left (yeah probably a bad battery) - but my coworkers Note 3, same thing, and my coworkers Note 4 phones - same thing. The only good thing about Samsung, the replacement battery cost $10 on Amazon and with a removable back it was easy to replace.

I'm a HUGE battery OCD nut - and Apple's batteries are amazing imo - the hardware and battery are big reasons why I own an Apple.

 

[ultravegeta1981]

Apples battery usually sucks. Only good thing about it, is the perfect standby times. If this is true, it will be a bomb(note 7) for Apple.

 

[JM]

I've never read a thread that has made me want to quit reading threads: this slowing down stuff is making me lose trust in my iPhone's superiority, and there's nothing to do about it except accept Apple's way.

And I really wanted to update to 11 on my 7 one day, but not with this talk of deliberate slowing. If a battery really is all that would fix it, that doesn't sound so bad after ~2 years of using it.

But, This is too depressing to read about.

 

[I7guy]

Instead of saying that maybe your phone needs servicing, it silently makes it sluggish so you end up buying a new phone eventually. It's essentially a bait and switch, you bought a fast phone and as it gets older it gets slower.

Phone does not appear slower. Speed of phone is same before and after battery replacement, which I had done 2 hours ago. I guess if I were editing
4K movie there might be a difference.

 

[BearBert]

Just pulled out my 2 year old 6s+ with 511 charge cycles, and 80% capacity

Mine doesn't seem to be affected. Getting similar results with testing in low battery.

 

[BigMcGuire]

I've never read a thread that has made me want to quit reading threads: this slowing down stuff is making me lose trust in my iPhone's superiority, and there's nothing to do about it except accept Apple's way.

And I really wanted to update to 11 on my 7 one day, but not with this talk of deliberate slowing. If a battery really is all that would fix it, that doesn't sound so bad after ~2 years of using it.

But, This is too depressing to read about.

That's something Macrumors has a tendency to do. When I first joined Macrumors, I had an iPad 3 that I just ordered. Of course, once I got it, I checked the iPad threads and saw a lot of people complaining about light bleed. I had no clue what that was before I read about it, the iPad was near perfect for me but ... of course, it had light bleeding at the bottom. So I returned it. Of course, when I got a free replacement, more threads of the screens being too pink popped up. I didn't notice anything but of course my iPad had a pink screen.

The Apple Store rep even asked me: "Did you find out about this from Macrumors? You really need to stop going to that site so you can just enjoy your devices." He didn't complain at all and replaced my iPad without question - but I had to agree with him. I agree - though I keep coming here. lol.

I frown on Apple's possible behavior - does it make me enjoy my iPhone 8+ less? Nope. I love my iPhone 8+ and it, if it continues, will be the best phone I've ever had. Before that my 6s+ gave me 1.7 years of the best mobile experience I've ever had.

 

[ipooed]

How do I tell if it's being throttled, what do I look for? iPhone 6s 32GB iOS 10.3.3

 

[chillip]

This is affecting iPhone 7 as well. Look at my posts!

 

[rui no onna]

How do I tell if it's being throttled, what do I look for? iPhone 6s 32GB iOS 10.3.3

Those benchmark results look normal.

Tip: If you click on Single-Core or Multi-Core, you will see how your specific device compares to average results for other models.

 

[JM]

That's something Macrumors has a tendency to do. When I first joined Macrumors, I had an iPad 3 that I just ordered. Of course, once I got it, I checked the iPad threads and saw a lot of people complaining about light bleed. I had no clue what that was before I read about it, the iPad was near perfect for me but ... of course, it had light bleeding at the bottom. So I returned it. Of course, when I got a free replacement, more threads of the screens being too pink popped up. I didn't notice anything but of course my iPad had a pink screen.

The Apple Store rep even asked me: "Did you find out about this from Macrumors? You really need to stop going to that site so you can just enjoy your devices." He didn't complain at all and replaced my iPad without question - but I had to agree with him. I agree - though I keep coming here. lol.

I frown on Apple's possible behavior - does it make me enjoy my iPhone 8+ less? Nope. I love my iPhone 8+ and it, if it continues, will be the best phone I've ever had. Before that my 6s+ gave me 1.7 years of the best mobile experience I've ever had.

lol

 

[Count Blah]

I've never read a thread that has made me want to quit reading threads: this slowing down stuff is making me lose trust in my iPhone's superiority, and there's nothing to do about it except accept Apple's way.

And I really wanted to update to 11 on my 7 one day, but not with this talk of deliberate slowing. If a battery really is all that would fix it, that doesn't sound so bad after ~2 years of using it.

But, This is too depressing to read about.

It appears to have started with iOS 10.2.1, so it might be too late for you already.

 

[JM]

It appears to have started with iOS 10.2.1, so it might be too late for you already.

Thumbs up for your signature. haha

Yeah, I'm doomed. I'll probably buy a battery replacement from Apple in two years once I notice the battery not holding charge, and/or phone slowing down. Just bought a 7 in September. Want it to last three+ years.

 

[OriginalAppleGuy]

That's your experience. You do realize everybody is different right? So stating 3 years as a fact is simply not. Apple says you should get 500 cycles of full charges before it drops below 80%. You do realize people charge their phone twice a day, especially the smaller versions. So that would be over 700 cycles in a year.

But I bet you're going to find a next excuse for Apple, such as people shouldn't use their phone that often because you don't.

Of course many people could have a different experience. But what's the norm? Do you really think Apple would design batteries to fall below 80% life before AppleCare runs out? I'd have to say NOPE.

By the way - my phone lasts much longer now that notifications and texts come to my watch and it makes it easy to respond. I've been trying to get down below 50% all day but I'm still at 68% as I write this. I charge the phone every night too.
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That's not the issue. The issue deals with the remaining QUALITY of the battery, not the percent charge remaining of a given cycle. Some folks have phones that run at half speed or less, the entire time.

Please stop trying to excuse/minimize this issue.

Nope - I believe in the scientific method. An I need to see it to believe it. But, no - quality of battery, voltage provided, percent available have all been stated here.

 

[macsforever]

Yeah but they’re speeding their desktops up beyond any other hardware out there.... an 18 Core iMac Pro? Yeah, let’s get it on!!!!!

 

[Altis]

Yeah but they’re speeding their desktops up beyond any other hardware out there.... an 18 Core iMac Pro? Yeah, let’s get it on!!!!!

It won't matter how many cores you have when animation delays block input anyways.

Just as with i[nput-blocking]OS.

 

[Count Blah]

Nope - I believe in the scientific method. An I need to see it to believe it. But, no - quality of battery, voltage provided, percent available have all been stated here.

a couple merged threads deal with all of these. I was responding to the flippant defense of - I’d expect it to be slow, when the battery is about to run out. As if fingers in the ears, are going to make this go away.

 

[OriginalAppleGuy]

a couple merged threads deal with all of these. I was responding to the flippant defense of - I’d expect it to be slow, when the battery is about to run out. As if fingers in the ears, are going to make this go away.

Whatever.....got my battery down to 44% and NO CHANGE in Geekbench scores. Phone is over a year old and I have historically used it a lot. I'll keep running it down to see if anything changes but I seriously doubt it will. So far, debunked.

 

[Applejuiced]

I'm not joking and like most people, battery life between charges is critical. It would be nice if Apple were a bit more transparent about what they are doing. But most batteries don't reduce effectiveness to the point where Apple may reduce processor speed before 3 or so years.

A laptop I have for work is on its 2nd battery and needs a third. I'm barely able to get an hour and a half to two hours out of it. The battery indicator is faulty in that it says I'll have more time available then the system just craps out. Real bad for a meeting. I'd rather HP reduce the processor speeds and do other things to help get more time out of the battery. Instead, I manually reduce brightness to the lowest setting where I can still see what I'm typing.

Apple is doing the right thing. Any other manufacturer would just let the battery fail early and leave you hanging.
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FALSE. They have NOT been slowing down older phones with updated iOS installs. It has been proven time and again. Here's a link to an article with data behind the numbers:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...lder-iphones-down-on-purpose-with-ios-updates

Lmao Apple is doing the right thing by secretly slowing down our devices without telling us?
Wow, some of you are sipping the koolaid too much. Keep making excuses and call this fiasco as a "feature"
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never keep a phone that long so

That's what Apple wants to achieve in the end for everyone
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Why’s it shocking? Throttling CPU means prolonged battery life. It’s stupid to keep it at the same level when the phone doesn’t need it. Then people moan about the battery not lasting long enough.

Seriously?
So they turn your device to a crawling turtle without telling you and you defend that?
Some here are unbelievably devoted to Apple and will praise them no matter what.

 

[OriginalAppleGuy]

Lmao Apple is doing the right thing by secretly slowing down our devices without telling us?
Wow, some of you are sipping the koolaid too much. Keep making excuses and call this fiasco as a "feature"

Nah, Juiced, Apple isn't doing anything malicious. My 7+ I've had over a year does NOT slow down when battery level gets below 50%. I've tested mine in the 40's and 30's. Geekbench results are the same as they were in the 70's. For everyone freaking out in this thread to be correct, ALL phones would have to slow down give the conspiracy theorists theories.

If anyone is really experiencing a processing change at any given battery level (limit 20% as we already know Apple plays tricks there and below to save battery), something else may be going on. But I'm taking what you are posting with a grain of salt and not necessarily buying what you are selling. Someone with a controlled lab environment will have to post similar results to have any possible validity.

 

[Applejuiced]

I have read posts from people with batteries at 93% health claiming their processor was throttled.

There are people on the reddit thread with 6-12 month old phones already being throttled.

I really want to know what is going on an after what time an average user can expect to be throttled.

I guess it's up to Apple when they decide they want to throttle you down more in order to upgrade devices.
This has been happening for a long time.
Glad the truth is starting to come out finally.

 

[Paddle1]

Nah, Juiced, Apple isn't doing anything malicious. My 7+ I've had over a year does NOT slow down when battery level gets below 50%. I've tested mine in the 40's and 30's. Geekbench results are the same as they were in the 70's. For everyone freaking out in this thread to be correct, ALL phones would have to slow down give the conspiracy theorists theories.

If anyone is really experiencing a processing change at any given battery level (limit 20% as we already know Apple plays tricks there and below to save battery), something else may be going on. But I'm taking what you are posting with a grain of salt and not necessarily buying what you are selling. Someone with a controlled lab environment will have to post similar results to have any possible validity.

I understood the issue only affected 6 and 6s series devices, no?

 

[Applejuiced]

My 6S is slower than my 6th gen. iPod Touch. I took it in to Apple because the battery life has been terrible, and Coconut Battery reports that the battery is between 75 and 80% capacity with 350 cycles on it. Apple's diagnostic shows the battery has 93% life which means they won't replace the battery, so now I'm stuck with a phone that's way too slow, with terrible battery life, and I can't get Apple to fix it.

And if you get it replaced elsewhere you void any warranty and they won't even look at that device again.
They play by their own one sided rules

 

[Act3]

Nah, Juiced, Apple isn't doing anything malicious. My 7+ I've had over a year does NOT slow down when battery level gets below 50%. I've tested mine in the 40's and 30's. Geekbench results are the same as they were in the 70's. For everyone freaking out in this thread to be correct, ALL phones would have to slow down give the conspiracy theorists theories.

If anyone is really experiencing a processing change at any given battery level (limit 20% as we already know Apple plays tricks there and below to save battery), something else may be going on. But I'm taking what you are posting with a grain of salt and not necessarily buying what you are selling. Someone with a controlled lab environment will have to post similar results to have any possible validity.

It has nothing to do with battery level. It’s a battery age/ capacity thing. My 6s would show 100 % charge and cpu speed was 911mhz. About half of what it should be. Tested battery and it showed only 65% capacity. Had battery replaced this evening , now CPU speed is at 1800mhz and battery test shows 100% capacity.

 

[Applejuiced]

Whatever.....got my battery down to 44% and NO CHANGE in Geekbench scores. Phone is over a year old and I have historically used it a lot. I'll keep running it down to see if anything changes but I seriously doubt it will. So far, debunked.

Yes you totally debunked it with your biased posts we all believed you.
While thousands of other users post actual tests and results with undeniable proof.