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m1maverick

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From my phone, not my iPad, but it's the same principle...

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Where?

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m1maverick

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Sign in. Then disable iMessages in the settings. You will receive SMS only at that point. You can disable FaceTime as well.

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Are you not signed into your Apple ID in general? Because that makes using the iPhone a glorified and overpriced calling brick.
So I have to sign in to avoid signing in? Also this is not an iPhone. From my initial post on this subject:

"...a screen capture from my iPad Air 4."
 

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So I have to sign in to avoid signing in? Also this is not an iPhone. From my initial post on this subject:

"...a screen capture from my iPad Air 4."
Yes, my mistake. Regardless, the process is the same. It doesn't matter whether it's a Mac, iPad, or iPhone. You have to sign in to disable iMessages. You can disable literally all of the iCloud features if you want, but you still need to sign into the device to disable. If this bothers you, I get it. But there's no other way around it.

Are you using an iPad with a cellular plan? Why do you not want to use iCloud on your device? I don't see the point. Are you trying to text from your iPad like a phone? Or are you just bothered by the icon having an exclamation point? Because you can just delete the app icon if you don't want to use it.
 

m1maverick

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Yes, my mistake. Regardless, the process is the same. It doesn't matter whether it's a Mac, iPad, or iPhone. You have to sign in to disable iMessages. You can disable literally all of the iCloud features if you want, but you still need to sign into the device to disable. If this bothers you, I get it. But there's no other way around it.

Signing in to disable the notification that I need to sign in is self defeating since the reason I haven't signed in is because I don't want to sign in.

Are you using an iPad with a cellular plan? Why do you not want to use iCloud on your device? I don't see the point. Are you trying to text from your iPad like a phone? Or are you just bothered by the icon having an exclamation point? Because you can just delete the app icon if you don't want to use it.
It is a wifi only iPad. I have neither the need or desire to sign in with my Apple ID with it. Whether you agree with that desire or not is irrelevant. I don't want to do it and Apple should respect as much by not putting an exclamation point on the Messages icon.
 

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Signing in to disable the notification that I need to sign in is self defeating since the reason I haven't signed in is because I don't want to sign in.
I agree. But that's how it is.


It is a wifi only iPad. I have neither the need or desire to sign in with my Apple ID with it. Whether you agree with that desire or not is irrelevant. I don't want to do it and Apple should respect as much by not putting an exclamation point on the Messages icon.
Then just delete the Messages app icon from your Home Screen and you won't have to see it ever again or worry about it. You don't need to sign in to anything if you don't want to use it. You're not even using the app. The only one forcing you to look at it is you. Delete it and be done with it.
 
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deconstruct60

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Is that really true? I checked on all my machines which have been each upgraded several times: Apple-ID not associated on a single one as far as I can see (empty field in iCloud preferences). I don't think I have ever been prompted to update anything.

Assuming here that Mojave is still considered 'modern'. ?


Mojave isn't even getting the minimal security updates anymore. How could it possibly be considered a modern , contemporary macOS version? I realize joking but this is exactly part of the root cause problem of why the thread starter 'blew up' his Mac Pro .

these days Apple not only wants you to be logged in with your Apple ID they also want two-factor authentication (TFA) turned on. if TFA isn't on then Activation lock doesn't even work. (and your iCloud services are not as highly secured. ). Not having any reasonable recovery options set up for 2FA is going to get you into a load of widespread problems if blow up one of those factors ( forget the password) and blow away the recovery into the account ( no active , correct contact information to help Apple re-authenticate you).


For someone that is hyper anti-AppleID and anti-T2 then those folks can keep a minimal maintenance macOS on a small T2 drive. Then proceed to turn off most other Mac Pro security. ( turn off secure boot , install another PCI-e SSD and boot off of that for normal usage and eschew AppleID. Also gets you a recovery OS on a different drive so that some Time Machine restore can't bork the recovery OS 'partition'. ).

However, that isn't how modern macOS works with the default settings.

Bootable clone drives... basically going away on modern macOS. macOS on primary HFS drive.. gone. Kernel extensions ... on death row.

Apple is moving to supporting more passwordless logins



but that is likely even more coupled into being hooked into the 2FA process and having "trusted devices" to substitute passwords for. Willy nilly AppleID account maintenance is an even bigger problem as that stuff deploys.
 

th0masp

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It really feels like tech companies these days keep a specialized department around that comes up with strategies to annoy the user as much as possible as well as yank control away from them all under the guise of making things seamless and easy.

Notifications don't come across like a friendly reminder anymore, seems more like a poke to the ribs, front and center. Drop everything and do.this.now.
Preferences getting ever more limited and organized and worded in cryptic ways to keep you from finding the 'wrong' options. And if you actually manage to locate them then how about a notification or two to warn you of the consequences of toggling them (important to switch ok and cancel buttons around in these popups, make cancel the default, use misleading wording for the buttons).
Or my favourite in Windows: disabled switches that reactivate themselves after a set time or on next wake from sleep (without notifying you of course).

It's definitely one of the reasons I stopped updating things as much as I used to as well as disabling all auto-updates (Firefox is hard! Bastards!). In the case of Apple I am also quite partial to Dashboard and 32 bits binary compatibility, thank you very much. ?

Aaaanway thanks for the insight into the things I am apparently totally missing out on. :apple: Sounds great!
 
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960design

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One rep told me that after 24 hours my Apple ID would be unlocked. The only way to unlock was via email or answering the security questions.
This is mostly correct.
Call Apple with your proof of purchase for the $6,500 Mac Pro and the account rep will send you an email remove activation lock. 24 - 72 hours after they receive this your device will be unlocked.

Ultimately, another rep said I would have to submit a ticket to Apple to have my computer unlocked, including a copy of my purchase Invoice, WHICH I DID LAST THURSDAY, the 19th. As of today, May 25 I HAVE NOT HEARD SQUAT FROM Apple!
Use the email the account rep contacted you with to request an update.
Unfortunately, you are complaining to a forum that has no way to assist you with activation lock.


If I may recommend a more appropriate forum for your complaint: Small Claims Court
Create a small claims request for your local county to sue Apple for the $6,500.
Let the judge decide whom is the "idiot".

Final Thought:
You may turn off activation lock whenever you chose ( well, before you were locked out of it ):
 

m1maverick

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Why didn't you get rid of it is what I'm asking? Why would you leave an app icon on your Home Screen, taking up the spot of another app that you actually use, so that you can complain about an app icon for an app that you don't use?
Because I don't want to remove it. As for complaining I don't believe I am complaining. I merely mentioned it as an example of companies trying to push their cloud agenda. You've made a larger issue out of this than I did of the icon. In fact you seem to be starting to obsess about what I have or have not done.
 
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