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This is what gets me when I see English people on videos claiming "We have freedom of speech!"

No, you really don't. Freedom of speech is not enshrined in UK law.

Also, I always take exception to the phrase "freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence". Sorry, but YES IT HAS TO MEAN THAT, otherwise people will self-censor, which is the state of play right now.
Where in your opinion does have free speech? Even in the USA there are many, many exceptions that get you arrested for saying.
 
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The best move Apple could have made given the situation

As an FYI, this will not affect:

iMessage encryption
iCloud Keychain
FaceTime
Health data

Will not affect them YET. The UK is sliding head first toward full fledge authoritarianism. This will be used as a tool to further abuse gov't powers. Expect the rest to be subject to the same backdooring.

They have it backwards, citizens should have the protection of privacy, and governments should be the ones to be held to full fledged transparency. Shame they don't see it that way.
 
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Standby on that one ...
Until I see verifiable evidence of Americans being jailed en masse for comments made online because the powers that be have determined they committed the high crime of hurting someone's feelings, this is mostly just a lot of fear mongering hyperbole. That being said, I do think both sides have gotten a little too...curious...in their testing of those waters in recent years.
 
I doubt anyone understood it. But Labour, access to your private data at will, THAT they WILL care about!
I tried to discuss it with people at work at the time, average people. I explained what it meant. The default reaction was to shrug and say “I have nothing to hide”. On some other tech sites I discussed it on, many bought entirely into the governments “it’s to protect children” excuse, some even accused me of being a nonce for wanting privacy.
 
Because UK citizens need to be protected themselves. And apparently that means the UK wants to emulate the NSA and spy on their citizens. In particular citizens who criticize the government.
 
Where in your opinion does have free speech? Even in the USA there are many, many exceptions that get you arrested for saying.
There are obvious caveats on incitement to violence, direct threats etc. but under the First Amendment you can't be arrested for "hate speech" and other offenses that are twisted to serve the establishment.
 
Well, I live in the UK and what he's saying is nonsense. There is FAR MORE free speech than we are seeing in the USA right now, which seems to be turning into some fascist oligarchy/dictatorship where only one view is tolerated, and it's certainly not free!
You can't possibly be serious. Are you really not aware of ANY of the shenanigans the last administration tried to pull?? They were suppressing information and journalism left and right like it was going out of fashion.
 
There are obvious caveats on incitement to violence, direct threats etc. but under the First Amendment you can't be arrested for "hate speech" and other offenses that are twisted to serve the establishment.

The current administration is ignoring Constitutional law at this very moment, and just installed a hyper partisan to lead the FBI

Get worried ... now
 
So how do UK authorities access user data now ? Would they need a court order to request Apple grant the police access ?
 
I am glad this only affects ADP, but still a terrible law.

I am betting most users do not enable ADP because it does limit some functionality.

That said, those that did enable it are the ones that really cared about security and now they have lost that -- which sucks.

Stupid politicians making stupid laws. When will they understand that a "backdoor door the good guys" is also a backdoor for all your foreign enemies.
 
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This is what gets me when I see English people on videos claiming "We have freedom of speech!"

No, you really don't. Freedom of speech is not enshrined in UK law.

Also, I always take exception to the phrase "freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence". Sorry, but YES IT HAS TO MEAN THAT, otherwise people will self-censor, which is the state of play right now.
What does something being 'enshrined in law' actually mean? if you are from the USA, not an awful lot, as Trump is currently burning through the rule of law and constitution at will, for personal vengeance and retribution, the exact opposite of truth and free speech. We are a more free, more equal, more diverse, more progressive country than most in the world, an certainly far more than the USA. While I'm sure many ppl aren't overtly fans of 'surveillance state', this isn't China. Aside the nutty conspiracy theorists (who most ppl ignore), our elected officials aren't using surveillance to see what job bloggs is up to, it's for the purpose (whether misguided or otherwise) of cutting crime, and terrorism etc. Most of which is, believe it or not, a good thing. We don't have a billionaire rifling through all of all personal info for his own financial gain, firing ppl at will that he doesn't like or doesn't support his personal viewpoints. We don't ban books or have weekly school shootings. We don't have to take out vast loans to afford basic healthcare. I'm gay, I have many LGBT friends, friends of colour too. We all feel INFINITELY SAFER and MORE FREE than being in the USA would right now, which seems to be a hive of lies, misinformation and hatred from your (allegedly) elected leaders!
 
There are obvious caveats on incitement to violence, direct threats etc. but under the First Amendment you can't be arrested for "hate speech" and other offenses that are twisted to serve the establishment.
So you can be arrested for saying words, therefore there are limits imposed on free speech. Anything else is arguing opinions about what limits on speech are acceptable and can still be classed as “free speech”

What constitutes a threat seems very up to interpretation too, given a woman in the USA was charged with threatening to carry out a mass shooting or act of terrorism for telling her insurance company “you people are next”.
 
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Disgraceful behaviour from the UK government again - I am British btw.

Governments are not there for the people any more, they are self serving and this is another example of that, giving its people less security in favour of benefitting themselves. These actions are always under the guise of “national security” too which means nothing but is a convenient way for them to not have to explain their actions.

George Orwell is being proven more and more correct every day.
 
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