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Is there any rational explanation why the UK government is demanding the change?
Authoritarian statism. They must have control over everything—including every thought.

I'm in the UK and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. ... What sort of things are people doing that they feel they need such security?
That's an incredibly myopic attitude, IMO. The State just loves people like you.

Ok, well, not loves. The State doesn't actually love anybody. What it loves is control. Perhaps more accurate to say The State hates people like me and appreciates people like you.

Since the US is part of Five Eyes, I am sure they'd actually be happy to use the gathered insights from the UK.
Actually, I'm pretty sure I read a post, recently, where VP J.D. Vance suggested that if the EU and UK continue on their current courses towards increasingly oppressive statism the U.S. may stop sharing intelligence with Five Eyes. This would amount to a de facto withdrawal of the U.S. from Five Eyes.

Remember this fascist law was started by the Trump and alt right aligned fascist conservative government ...
Cites?

And btw: I don't know if you happened to notice: But much of Trump's cabinet is made of of disaffected ex-Democrats. Trump, himself, and Elon Musk are both disaffected ex-Democrats, as well.

This really has nothing to do with political parties. Indeed: One of the persistent campaigners for passing laws to mandate back door crypto access in the U.S. was no less than Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) - a "liberal."

Just turned this on because they don’t want me to :)
Great minds think alike :cool:

I'd actually meant to do it a while ago, but I had one device, an Apple TV that is currently not in use, that needed to be either updated or removed from the account, first.

This move by the UK got me off the dime.

Not far behind is the Ununited States of Trump.
Unlikely. In fact: Ever since Salt Typhoon even the FBI, which has long-opined for a back door into everybody-and-their-brothers' encryption, has now changed it's tune.

Now comes's this:
US Legislators Want CLOUD Act Reform, Protected E2EE
(February 13, 14, & 15, 2025)
In a February 13 missive, US Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Representative Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) urged Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard “to act decisively to protect the security of Americans' communications.” In light of the UK's Technical Capability Notice (TCN) demanding access to Apple's end-to-end-encrypted (E2EE) user data, reportedly served in January 2025, the legislators stressed the risk to American citizens' and government agencies' data from an encryption backdoor, citing the 2024 Salt Typhoon breach of US wiretaps as an example of surveillance backdoors' inevitable compromise and exploitation. The lawmakers asked Gabbard to reconsider and restrict US-UK intelligence sharing and cybersecurity programs if the demand is not reversed. The missive also requests "unclassified answers" to questions about the Trump administration's awareness of the TCN, and its understanding of the Clarifying Lawful Overseas Use of Data (CLOUD) Act, specifically regarding "an exception to gag orders" and "obligation to inform Congress and the American public about foreign government demands for U.S. companies to weaken the security of their products." On February 14, Sen. Wyden released a draft bill aimed at reforming the CLOUD Act with measures to limit agreement terms, shift challenge and approval power toward US legislators and judiciary, and "Prevent foreign governments from using the CLOUD Act to require U.S. providers to adopt specific designs for products, reduce the security of a product, or deliver malware to a customer."

Make 1984 fiction again.
Wouldn't that be nice?
 
While I'm not a Brit myself, I do try to keep up at least at a high level with the politics of other countries - especially our major allies, trade partners, and adversaries - and my understanding is that the Labor and Tory parties both have devolved quite a bit in recent years, no? It's my understanding that there exist factions in each party that have been pushing hard for an increased surveillance state.

Between the two parties you couldn't fit a cigarette paper.. they are essentially the same, just ones less extreme then the other, the complete opposite of the USA. And they have both slowly ruined the country.

This move is very worrying I think. Many say they no longer trust the Judicial system who will possibly be granting government access to people's iCloud accounts.
 
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Everyone in the UK, you do have a lever to pull here

You can choose not to use cloud back up entirely.

Us old timers remember the days of "plugging your phone in to do local backups"

Some of us even still do it :D :)

I can see this becoming a huge story here, and Apple losing millions from subscription and services as people cancel.
 
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I’m in a similar position. I left the UK a long time ago, but I still have family there that I share an Apple One Premier account with. It’s shocking that to switch my account to one from another country I’d lose all my purchases and have to leave that group. These kinds of little edge cases always make me think Apple don’t ever consider how people outside the US move around so freely. I know so many people who don’t live in their home countries here, and many of them are stuck with accounts from their original country, dealing with similar problems.
Perhaps this will finally be significant enough to push them to address that issue. Wishful thinking I know, but they're going to have a lot of PR damage control to do in the coming weeks and surely they might recognize that listening to their former/current UK-based customers' complaints would be in their best interest...
 
Between the two parties you didn't for a cigarette paper.. they are essentially the same, just ones less extreme then the other, the complete opposite of the UK. And they have both slowly ruined the country.

This move is very worrying I think. Many say they no longer trust the Judicial system who will possibly be granting government access to people's iCloud accounts.

I think I read somewhere that only 3 requests have ever been blocked by courts. And I'd guess those were on technical grounds i.e. paperwork wasn't properly filed.
 
Ah yes the all knowing all seeing British establishment who are full of nonces, champagne socialists, fake liberals, Trumpanzee libertarians, and fake ‘traditional value’ conservatives who are nonces and take bribes from the Russians and Chinese oligarchs while pretending to be against China and Russia. All of them corrupt as the next one.

London is the capital of money laundering and all these swines are happy to allow it. It’s no privacy for you law abiding normies and maximum levels of privacy for rich criminals.

Remember these swines put ten cameras on every street and instead of solving crime it made crime worse, more human trafficking, more gangs and more violence with knifes, guns and machetes. Police are so weak and all they do is protect mansions and Lamborghinis.
 
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Everyone in the UK, you do have a lever to pull here

You can choose not to use cloud back up entirely.

Us old timers remember the days of "plugging your phone in to do local backups"

Some of us even still do it :D :)
Exactly. Never put all your eggs in one basket. Always assume somebody somewhere can see what you post online. Host what you can on your own network. You can even set up your own cloud storage on a NAS or Raspberry Pi using freeware like NextCloud.
 
Does this mean that the UK government can now access thing in iCloud or just intercept them on their way up? Does that mean that photo's are being cached on their way to the cloud or scanned?

How does Apple decide what phones are in the UK, is it determined by where the phone is located, purchased, the sim card that is inserted or the declared address given in the iCloud account?

What happens when I am abroad can I enable it again?
 
Sure because in the UK people are not arrested and jailed for posting things online the government disagrees with.... what you say is paranoid happens every day in the UK right now.

Hence why this is VERY worrying.. you know you can have a 'none crime hate crime' made against you in the UK, this can go on a record that potential employers can see, but yet you may NEVER know about it as their is no law that states you have to be told about it.
The UK is not a free speech or opinion country.
I understand that and I'm aware of these problematic developments in the UK and elsewhere across Europe. I was addressing the OP's comment regarding their concern about the US and our current political climate, which is nowhere near that of several European countries right now. I sympathize with your worries and wish you and fellow citizens enjoyed the same free speech protections we have here.
 
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They've already strong armed apple into removing protection for uk customers. Not bad for a country that isn't an empire.

Essentially Apple are forced to comply with this request, or withdraw entirely from the uk market. They have done a halfway house measure by only removing ADP which i am worried means that are compliant for the rest of the world.
Just found this in the Daily Telegraph (UK broadsheet):

Removing the feature in Britain does not technically free Apple from the notice, which can apply globally. However, if the Home Office has issued the notice to obtain information about a UK individual, disabling the feature in Britain may mean the notice is no longer needed.
 
Well, at least we don't live in the USA where the billionaires and kid-hackers to everyone single persons social security and personal info to do with as they will. I suppose ppl that are ok with that are the same ppl that would be complaining of that, due to the colour of the different parties in charge.
 
Remember folks

You can always vote with your wallet and stop using Apple devices completely!



(that's what I'm routinely told if I'm ever critical of Apple or Tim Cook
Weirdos say that on here if you so much as like an android feature that iOS doesn’t have. Strangely they have never responded to me when I ask them what happens if I switch and miss an iOS feature that android doesn’t have, am I doomed to have 2 phones or must I continuously switch from android to iOS 20 times a day? They don’t have an answer for me 😞
 
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I understand that and I'm aware of these problematic developments in the UK and elsewhere across Europe. I was addressing the OP's comment regarding their concern about the US and our current political climate, which is nowhere near that of several European countries right now. I sympathize with your worries and wish you and fellow citizens enjoyed the same free speech protections we have here.
Well, I live in the UK and what he's saying is nonsense. There is FAR MORE free speech than we are seeing in the USA right now, which seems to be turning into some fascist oligarchy/dictatorship where only one view is tolerated, and it's certainly not free!
 
Will the average normie even know or care?
It's all over national news already, people will sit up if its front page news tomorrow. Many do not trust the government so any story about them having access to yoke data will catch interest.
 
When this topic was mentioned first. Many of the commenters here believed Apple would pull out of the U.K. entirely. They said this was the time to show Apple’s color and stance on privacy.

Well… once again 💰💷💰💷 can change everything
Nothing like the throw the baby out with the bath water garden variety Apple criticism.
 
The UK is not a free speech or opinion country.
This is what gets me when I see English people on videos claiming "We have freedom of speech!"

No, you really don't. Freedom of speech is not enshrined in UK law.

Also, I always take exception to the phrase "freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence". Sorry, but YES IT HAS TO MEAN THAT, otherwise people will self-censor, which is the state of play right now.
 
I understand that and I'm aware of these problematic developments in the UK and elsewhere across Europe. I was addressing the OP's comment regarding their concern about the US and our current political climate, which is nowhere near that of several European countries right now. I sympathize with your worries and wish you and fellow citizens enjoyed the same free speech protections we have here.

Understood my bad. Thanks for the concern, I can only see it getting worst sadly.
I wish I was back in the 80's.. and maybe early 90's. My grandfather didn't fight in WW2 for the UK to be like it is now that's for sure.
 
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Nobody cared when the investigatory powers act came into being despite being national news, nobody will care now.

I doubt anyone understood it. But Labour, access to your private data at will, THAT they WILL care about!
 
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