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ChrisA

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With the risk involved by both the seller and buyer it's crazy to believe somebody would provide this service/let somebody do it to their computer. If it was a service factoring in risks/labor/parts etc it could very likely be charged more than apples original upgrades.
This is purely for DIY.

AMAZING feat OP.
Swapping chips on a PCB is a common thing. That is how they do repairs. Where I live in So. California there are many computer repair places that do this type of work. Yes, I know Apple does not, they swap entire PCBs even if only one tiny 2-cent part is bad.

A common PC repair is one of the connectors, A USB or some other port is ripped of the PCB, It is not all that hard to replace if you have some practice.

These big BGA socket chips are the hardest ones but there are lots of electronic techs who do this for a living.
 
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My first entrepreneurial job was soldering mod chips on xboxes when I was 14/15 back 20 years ago. These days there are high resolution image and video guides, affordable proper and high quality DIY equipment, social media where people post the latest tips and tricks and workarounds, it's easier than it has ever been before; so much of the "it's so hard" is marketing propaganda to create an invisible divide and ingenuity suffers. It's just like any DIY project, follow the steps carefully, and profit. Same deal for motor vehicles (unless it's a Tesla or other anti-consumer company), same deal for that annoying kettle that beeps incessantly as it boils as a child safety alarm so you solder off its speaker. The worst case about doing a repair is you just add a few more steps to your repair.
 

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Just performed a successful M2 Mac Studio storage upgrade! The M2 model only uses 2 NANDs for its 512GB config, so adding the second two NANDs (and their respective passive components that Apple omitted) is required in order to achieve 2TB. Of course, like the M1 Mac Studio, two NAND modules are needed in order to achieve 4TB or 8TB, so I wasn’t able to do that in this instance.

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waterchill

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Hi everyone,

I installed the 2TB NAND's in my A2681 a realised that in DFU mode it gaves me error 4014. So I installed back my 256GB IC, everything is working. Installed back 2TB, same error. I bought the IC's from masterliu and watched this video:


No one told me, that I have to install also all the small parts, that's why I found this thread here.

So I checked schematics and these parts are needed:

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I'm struggling to point out what part is FLN100 and FLN101? It is a coil, but the parameters say: 10OHM - 50% - 1A - 0.05ohm

So it is a coil with 0201 dimensions, 1A max current, 0.05ohm resistance but what is 10ohm? For a coil we need specs like 1uH or so.

Any ideas?

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Thank you
 
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dosdude1

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Hi everyone,

I installed the 2TB NAND's in my A2681 a realised that in DFU mode it gaves me error 4014. So I installed back my 256GB IC, everything is working. Installed back 2TB, same error. I bought the IC's from masterliu and watched this video:


No one told me, that I have to install also all the small parts, that's why I found this thread here.

So I checked schematics and these parts are needed:

View attachment 2403911


I'm struggling to point out what part is FLN100 and FLN101? It is a coil, but the parameters say: 10OHM - 50% - 1A - 0.05ohm

So it is a coil with 0201 dimensions, 1A max current, 0.05ohm resistance but what is 10ohm? For a coil we need specs like 1uH or so.

Any ideas?

View attachment 2403912

Thank you
I have a Mouser project containing all the parts you need: https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=fd9bd9decb
 

waterchill

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nice! I see that you have also not found a 20uF cap and choose 22uF instead. I did my order on Farnell. Also not found this cap. Farnell does also not have a 200ohm with 0,1% with 50mW. only 35mW with 0,1% or 1% with 50mW so I bought 1% with 50mW.
 
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For the small parts, did you replaced the original solder from the board with low melt solder or did you soldered directly to the original solder?
I replaced all the lead free solder with leaded for easy soldering.
 
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citivolus

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Is there any way to upgrade the memory to 16GB on any iPad Pro in a similar manner as described here? Thinking of paying someone much more capable at soldering than I am.
 
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ZetOmega

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Hey everyone, so i am planning to upgrade my M1 Pro Macbook to 2TB (i'd love to do 8TB but am scared of the passive components).
I am also quite lazy and do not really want to set up everything on my mac again. So i was wonderinf if it was possible to clone my disk with CCC and make a disk image off it, then upgrade, DFU restore and then use Disk Utility to resize and then restore the system? Tbh I don't care if it takes incredibly long or is tedious, i just dont want to set up everything again :p.
 

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Hey everyone, so i am planning to upgrade my M1 Pro Macbook to 2TB (i'd love to do 8TB but am scared of the passive components).
I am also quite lazy and do not really want to set up everything on my mac again. So i was wonderinf if it was possible to clone my disk with CCC and make a disk image off it, then upgrade, DFU restore and then use Disk Utility to resize and then restore the system? Tbh I don't care if it takes incredibly long or is tedious, i just dont want to set up everything again :p.
Just backup with Time Machine, then restore using Migration Assistant when you set up your new copy of macOS after performing the upgrade.
 
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waterchill

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Hey everyone, so i am planning to upgrade my M1 Pro Macbook to 2TB (i'd love to do 8TB but am scared of the passive components).
I am also quite lazy and do not really want to set up everything on my mac again. So i was wonderinf if it was possible to clone my disk with CCC and make a disk image off it, then upgrade, DFU restore and then use Disk Utility to resize and then restore the system? Tbh I don't care if it takes incredibly long or is tedious, i just dont want to set up everything again :p.
This will not work for 100%. Use Time Machine and go for it.

Anyone knows a good seller for macbook nand chips?
 

ZetOmega

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I am looking for a seller aswell, with good prices to Germany. Does anyone have the component list for 8 nands on A2442 (M1 Pro 14"). Because if i can get the parts for a good price i'd attempt it. But i need guaranteed good blank nands and of course the bom and placement..
 

ZetOmega

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I found the schematics for the m1 pro and m1 max on badcaps, although I believe these are schematics for the full 8 nand population. Are there schematics for 4 nands only? And is it possible for a program to list the different parts? That would be great. Otherwise, I guess I will have to take apart my Macbook, take pictures, and find the parts manually. That would be if the schematics are for 8 nands, I am not sure about that though, as I'm new to schematics and also openboardviewer.
 

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I found the schematics for the m1 pro and m1 max on badcaps, although I believe these are schematics for the full 8 nand population. Are there schematics for 4 nands only? And is it possible for a program to list the different parts? That would be great. Otherwise, I guess I will have to take apart my Macbook, take pictures, and find the parts manually. That would be if the schematics are for 8 nands, I am not sure about that though, as I'm new to schematics and also openboardviewer.
There are BOM options; look for “SSD_5L” and “SSD_8L”, every part you need to add will have one of these labels.
 

waterchill

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My next project is to upgrade the storage on my wife's iPhone 15 Pro Max and my own iPhone 13 Pro. However, there's something I'm unsure about: What exactly is the purpose of the P13/P15 programmer? Do I even need it? Most YouTube videos simply show the process of unsoldering the old NAND, soldering in a new one, putting the device in DFU mode, and that’s it. Some videos, however, demonstrate transferring data from the old NAND to the new one. But how is that possible if you’ve already grinded out the NAND? Some say that the serial number Wifi and other important data are stored on the NAND. So, what’s the truth here? Does it vary depending on the iPhone model?
 

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My next project is to upgrade the storage on my wife's iPhone 15 Pro Max and my own iPhone 13 Pro. However, there's something I'm unsure about: What exactly is the purpose of the P13/P15 programmer? Do I even need it? Most YouTube videos simply show the process of unsoldering the old NAND, soldering in a new one, putting the device in DFU mode, and that’s it. Some videos, however, demonstrate transferring data from the old NAND to the new one. But how is that possible if you’ve already grinded out the NAND? Some say that the serial number Wifi and other important data are stored on the NAND. So, what’s the truth here? Does it vary depending on the iPhone model?
Programming the syscfg data with P13/P15 programmer is only required on A11 and earlier devices. A12 and later devices (excluding iPhones, where this feature is only present on A14 and later devices) will query Apple's FDR server during the restore process, and re-populate the syscfg data on the new NAND automatically. Also, just like what is explained about the Mac upgrades here, these A12/A14 and later devices can have new, blank NANDs installed, in which case no programmer is required at all. If it's an older device, or a used/already programmed NAND is used that is not already programmed appropriately for the device in question, the appropriate piece of NAND firmware needs to first be written onto it. Once that's done, though, the A12/A14 restore process will take it from there and restore the syscfg data from FDR server, but older devices will additionally need syscfg data programmed manually.
 

waterchill

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Programming the syscfg data with P13/P15 programmer is only required on A11 and earlier devices. A12 and later devices (excluding iPhones, where this feature is only present on A14 and later devices) will query Apple's FDR server during the restore process, and re-populate the syscfg data on the new NAND automatically. Also, just like what is explained about the Mac upgrades here, these A12/A14 and later devices can have new, blank NANDs installed, in which case no programmer is required at all. If it's an older device, or a used/already programmed NAND is used that is not already programmed appropriately for the device in question, the appropriate piece of NAND firmware needs to first be written onto it. Once that's done, though, the A12/A14 restore process will take it from there and restore the syscfg data from FDR server, but older devices will additionally need syscfg data programmed manually.
Thank's for quick reply. So no programmer is needed for iPhones 12 and newer.
 

MacSERV

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Hey all, glad to have found this thread. I just inherited a project machine from a client. An M1 mini that died after a power blip. I can get it to DFU mode but it gives an error during Revive and Restore attempts. My question is this: If the machine will boot into DFU mode without issue, would this indicate that the CPU and RAM are OK (and the NAND is the issue)? Just looking for some sort of high-odds confirmation before I spend money and time on attempting a NAND replacement. It’s got 512GB currently, so it would be cool to take it up to 1TB…
 

waterchill

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Hey all, glad to have found this thread. I just inherited a project machine from a client. An M1 mini that died after a power blip. I can get it to DFU mode but it gives an error during Revive and Restore attempts. My question is this: If the machine will boot into DFU mode without issue, would this indicate that the CPU and RAM are OK (and the NAND is the issue)? Just looking for some sort of high-odds confirmation before I spend money and time on attempting a NAND replacement. It’s got 512GB currently, so it would be cool to take it up to 1TB…
What error code did you get?
 

dosdude1

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Hey all, glad to have found this thread. I just inherited a project machine from a client. An M1 mini that died after a power blip. I can get it to DFU mode but it gives an error during Revive and Restore attempts. My question is this: If the machine will boot into DFU mode without issue, would this indicate that the CPU and RAM are OK (and the NAND is the issue)? Just looking for some sort of high-odds confirmation before I spend money and time on attempting a NAND replacement. It’s got 512GB currently, so it would be cool to take it up to 1TB…
While this isn't a sure fire way of determining if it's a NAND issue or not, it may at least get you close. During the restore process, monitor the status of the device using PurpleSNIFF on the host Mac. Check the output and see if the "Serial Number" entry is present (depending on mode, it may not be listed at all, or listed with text reading "(not found)" in red). Note that the serial number will never be shown in DFU mode, only in "Recovery Mode" or "Restore Mode". Second, ensure you perform the restore using macOS Finder under macOS 14 Sonoma or later, and NOT Apple Configurator 2. Doing so will leave a log of each restore attempt in "~/Library/Logs/Mac Updater Logs", which can also be useful for pinpointing issues.

More times than not, lack of displayed serial number will be due to failed NAND, as that is read from syscfg, which is stored on NAND, and can only be read if the installed NANDs are working and part of a valid programmed config.
 
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