Yes.
Certain "things" like "Pride", "not my planet - not my problem" inherently carry a certain fascist ultimatum in them.
And this is why most people reject it on a cellular level even if they are not naturally a deep conceptual thinkers.
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Certain "things" like "Pride", "not my planet - not my problem" inherently carry a certain fascist ultimatum in them.
And this is why most people reject it on a cellular level even if they are not naturally a deep conceptual thinkers.
You’d know all about the experience of people who are not naturally deep conceptual thinkers, certainly.
What is the fascist ultimatum of “I like being queer, and want to celebrate a part of my identity that not all people accept”
I thought Pride was based on character or achievement. How far we have come! 
You can do it in the same way heterosexual people are celebrating their identity.
The belief that there is a "trivial" group of people and an "elite" group of people is a precondition for fascism.
Would you like a little mustard with that pretzel logic? I don’t understand your point. Are you saying you are upset that your life decisions differ from most of society and that everyone must be forced to celebrate your life decisions because you’re different? Note, I couldn’t care less what photos are on your desk. You want to have a picture of your significant same sex other, that’s cool with me, but people having to take care of family issues isn’t a “look at me” statement, it’s living life.
Like many other terms, language must be hijacked/redefined to be “progressive”. 😉I thought Pride was based on character or achievement. How far we have come!
I thought Pride was based on character or achievement. How far we have come!
"Character" as defined by Merriam Webster;
Heterosexual people have no need to celebrate that aspect of their identity, they have no history of being targets of violence or bigotry. They never had to fight for their rights. This would be like saying Americans should celebrate their independence the same way the British do.
I'm not sure where you get the idea of "Trivial" and "Elite" anyways. You mentioned those terms, care to explain?
The point is for decades anytime anyone gay mentioned dating, or what they did on the weekend with their partner, they are accused of being in your face or "flaunting" their "lifestyle". Others as you can see from the past posts are still using that argument. So applying a switch points out how dumb it sounds when you replace straight people with gay people. They are both doing the same thing and are just living their lives.
Maybe you don't care, and that's great, but for decades people lost jobs, were harassed, or killed for living their lives. There wasn't always the acceptance or indifference there is now. In the 80s you wouldn't put a picture of your partner on your desk for fear of losing your job because someone in the office probably would have an issue with it.
You can't make that call for the heterosexual people, just like you have no right to demand from people to "accept" something that they are not comfortable to accept. This is where the fascist ultimatum rears its ugly head.
Sexuality(just like the cranium size) is objective, using it as a measuring stick is not.
Anybody who is "different from the rest" is a subject of violence and bigotry. This is more of a "de-fund a Police"(which the likes of Trotsky would do) issue. This is why statesmanship competencies are so paramount. I can see that you are looking at this in a "us and them", "divide and conquer" light either through incompetence(I hope) or evil intent.
Would you like to live in a gay only State? You know, to avoid being a target of violence or bigotry? You are of course will have no special "status" there. This should not be a problem for you as supposedly you are only asking for the parity with a heterosexual people.
It is a precondition for the fascism to exist in a society that majority of people "quietly accept" the "fact" that some group of people are more valuable("elite") and some are less valuable ("crowd").
Why on earth are you obsessed with the idea of dividing and sorting people by their differences?
The whole point of Pride is to celebrate how far we have come as members of this species in regards to being seen as normal people in the societies we live in.
I firmly believe that if there is one thing that the founders of my country got 100% correct, it is that all men are created equal.
If the thought of that makes you uncomfortable, that's unfortunate. If you are going to argue that gay men, lesbian women, or any other shade of non-heteronormative person is, or should be, any less equal than you, I can only hope that one day your mind will change and you will be a much better person for it.
And to address your political angle - if you are so concerned with fascism, you would be in favor of non-heterosexuals folk being viewed as normal. our own "Us" and "Others" logic is a foundational element of fascist politics.
Introspection can be difficult, especially when it comes to criticizing our own ideology, but the ability to do so is monumentally important to your success as societies and as a species. I suggest you try it sometime.
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Being a straight male and reading stuff like this is pretty wild in 2024, reading your posts makes me feel like I’m in 624.
Giving off some Westboro Baptist Church vibes here.
Many things that did not happen in our lifetime happened many times before in history. There is nothing new under the moon apart from the technological advancement.
I am guessing that Klaus Schwab will say no.
So let's learn from history in order to make sure that the great reset will not be like "The Great Reset".
It's probably off-topic at this point but I'm here to report that the new bands look pretty swanky in person. (I was worried that I was just buying into some sort of corporate rainbow-washing; it's a relief to learn that I'm also hastening the fall of civilization.)
I'm with you on this.
Yeah, it's like seriously, come join the rest of us in the real world instead of living in a theoretical thought box.
I'm assuming it's just a troll or something.
In my younger days I never thought that one bit. Fast-forward (many years) it definitely feels like that. LGBTQ Community Calendar Per GLAAD;
February
- February 7: National Black HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
- Week after Valentine’s Day: Aromantic Spectrum Awareness Week
- February 28: HIV Is Not A Crime Awareness Day
March
- March: Bisexual Health Awareness Month
- Week varies in March: National LGBT Health Awareness Week
- March 10: National Women & Girls HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
- March 20: National Native HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
- March 31: International Transgender Day of Visibility
April
- April 6: International Asexuality Day
- April 10: National Youth HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
- Third Friday of April: Day of Silence
- April 18: National Transgender HIV Testing Day
- April 18: Nonbinary Parents Day
- April 26: Lesbian Visibility Day
May
- First Sunday In May: International Family Equality Day
- May 17: International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia, and Biphobia
- May 19: National Asian & Pacific Islander HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
- May 22: Harvey Milk Day
- May 24: Pansexual and Panromantic Awareness and Visibility Day
June
- June: LGBTQ Pride Month
- June 1: LGBTQ Families Day
- June 12: Pulse Remembrance
- June 15: Anniversary of U.S. Supreme Court Bostock decision expanding protections to LGBTQ employees
- June 26: Anniversary of U.S. Supreme Court legalizing marriage equality
- June 27: National HIV Testing Day
- June 28: Stonewall Day
- June 30: Queer Youth of Faith Day
July
- Week of July 14: Nonbinary Awareness Week, culminates in International Nonbinary People’s Day on July 14
- July 16: International Drag Day
August
- August 14: Gay Uncles Day
- August 20: Southern HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
September
- September 18: National HIV/AIDS & Aging Awareness Day
- Week of September 23: Bisexual+ Awareness Week, culminates in Celebrate Bisexuality Day on September 23
- September 27: National Gay Men’s HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
October
- October: LGBTQ History Month
- October 8: International Lesbian Day
- October 11: National Coming Out Day
- October 15: National Latinx HIV/AIDS Awareness Day
- October 19: National LGBT Center Awareness Day
- Third Wednesday in October: International Pronouns Day
- Third Thursday in October: Spirit Day
- Last week in October: Asexual Awareness Week
- October 26: Intersex Awareness Day
November
- First Sunday of November: Transgender Parent Day
- November 13 – 19: Transgender Awareness Week
- November 20: Transgender Day of Remembrance
December
- December 1: World AIDS Day
- December 8: Pansexual/Panromantic Pride Day
- December 14: HIV Cure Research Day
*I hate that term. NO ONE knows what others have gone through in life. And while maybe some people did have a rough go of it 60-70 years ago, somewhere in the civilized world, that isn't mainstream thinking today.
There are a lot of countries in this world living like it's 624, and Apple openly and willingly does business in ALL of them. Think about that next time you purchase a pride watch band. That's where many of us "non-marginalized" recognize the hypocrisy and call it out.
(not replying to the whole list bc long)
Weird that you decided to include the HIV/AIDS awareness days in this. Pretty sure that one affects straight folk too.
Right right. Hunger, poverty, and disease have been around forever, I don't think they're worth addressing either. Let's discuss the colors of a watch band that I wasn't going to buy anyways instead. /s.
I just copied and pasted their list. Get on them about that. 😉 Even with those removed we're still we're talking around 152 days, 42% of the year.
IMO, the community needs to abstract itself from medical and racial issues. Yes, they're vaguely in the same sphere and can be tangentially related, but they're exhausting to keep track of.
Focus on, you know, the lesbian, gay, bisexual, etc. part.
Fascism is immune to and can exist on any ideology.
Using sexuality as measuring stick is no different than using cranium size as a measuring stick.
Focus on abolishing any notion than some group of people is more valuable than others. Get off the "us and them" bandwagon.
"Gay joy" and "Pride" would not exist in a gay only State.
I applaud your desire to live "in the moment" and outsource conceptual power to somebody who knows "what's best for you."
I am just skeptical about this approach.
At least you are being honest about using objective situation("Pride" cause) to achieve subjective goal(the fall of the civilization). And you are also doing it in an Orwellian "doublespeak" where it clearly might be seen(and rationalized) as a "joke" by less conceptual people and yet retain its ominous seriousness nevertheless.
There are tons of days of observances and celebrations. Do you think about all these too? Or is it just the LGBTQ ones you roll your eyes at? Are there any particular religious ones too that you roll your eyes at as well?
Holidays and Observances in the United States in 2024
Overview of holidays and many observances in the United States during the year 2024
www.timeanddate.com
Here's another.
And yet another.
Observances in International in 2025 | There is a Day for That!
Comprehensive list of Observances that are celebrated in International during 2025 with dates and information on the origin and meaning of the days.
www.thereisadayforthat.com
The FBI issued both a domestic and foreign terrorist warning for Pride events in the USA. I would think those would not be needed in a "civilized" world, but here we are.