Apple Unveils 2024 Pride Edition Braided Solo Loop Band and Watch Face

[avz]

Justice can coexist with statesmanship and tradition. If you're unwilling to open your eyes to that, then I think we're done here.

...and justice and equality of the outcome for all?

I am afraid we have a long road ahead of us to get there.

There is also a reason why a corrupt "elite" always enjoyed orgies "on the side" while understanding the importance of maintaining the right "tradition". They were not all that stupid after all.

 

[Lostanddamned]

It’s very telling that the pro-queer voices in this thread are making sensible, logical arguments, and those opposed to the existence of gay joy are posting the dumbest, wildest takes I’ve ever seen.

 

[incidentallycheckout]

There's a reason the brown M&M got replaced.

WAIT. There's no brown M&M anymore?

 

[cocky jeremy]

WAIT. There's no brown M&M anymore?

I meant tan. There is still brown. (gross)

 

[incidentallycheckout]

I meant tan. There is still brown. (gross)

It has been a long time since I had them, but don't they all taste the same and it is just food coloring?

 

[cocky jeremy]

It has been a long time since I had them, but don't they all taste the same and it is just food coloring?

Yup. I just think the color brown is ugly.

 

[Razorpit]

It’s very telling that the pro-queer voices in this thread are making sensible, logical arguments, and those opposed to the existence of gay joy are posting the dumbest, wildest takes I’ve ever seen.

I don't know what you think this discussion is about, but judging from your comment it's not what you think it is.

If you're happy with Apple pandering to bring in some additional cash then go out an purchase a pride band or two or three. But know that whatever you decide to do, it is not going to change the hypocrisy of the situation.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

If you're happy with Apple pandering to bring in some additional cash then go out an purchase a pride band or two or three. But know that whatever you decide to do, it is not going to change the hypocrisy of the situation.

For any other company I'd normally agree with you on the pandering angle, but I feel like people forget that Tim Cook is gay. Helps it feel (at least a little) less scummy from my perspective.

 

[Razorpit]

For any other company I'd normally agree with you on the pandering angle, but I feel like people forget that Tim Cook is gay. Helps it feel (at least a little) less scummy from my perspective.

True, but when you see how things differ in places such as the Middle East and China, you can understand where myself and others are coming from.

There are things I like about Cook and his leadership, and things I don't. Who he chooses to go to bed with is not on either list. Personally I think it's weird that we need to even mention it, and that goes for anyone.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

True, but when you see how things differ in places such as the Middle East and China, you can understand where myself and others are coming from.

He just sells the pride stuff where he can and doesn't where he can't. He can't pull out of China or the Middle East because he has a business to run and shareholders to answer to.

Ethics and Business sometimes have clashing priorities. That's just the unfortunate nature of our economic model.

 

[Xenden]

It’s very telling that the pro-queer voices in this thread are making sensible, logical arguments, and those opposed to the existence of gay joy are posting the dumbest, wildest takes I’ve ever seen.

Gay joy?

That is kinda silly. I think the main push back is that it is meaningless. What in the world does being gay (or black) have to do with Apple adding a watch face.

Be gay all you want, but why should it be pushed in everyone’s face? It is sad that there are people that the number one trait they want to be known as, is who they are attracted to. Not profession, not a defining activity (athlete/hobby/etc), but who they want to boink.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

Be gay all you want, but why should it be pushed in everyone’s face?

Same reason there's people proud to be Americans, or people that drive around with school alumni license plate frames. People are allowed to be proud of who they are and are allowed to express that.

If people expressing themselves offends you, or if Apple giving people the ability to better do so, you may want to re-examine your priorities.

 

[The1Biz]

I don't know what you think this discussion is about, but judging from your comment it's not what you think it is.

If you're happy with Apple pandering to bring in some additional cash then go out an purchase a pride band or two or three. But know that whatever you decide to do, it is not going to change the hypocrisy of the situation.

I just wait until they show up at Marshalls a year later and are $18. It mitigates the high price and the pandering.

 

[The1Biz]

Gay joy?

That is kinda silly. I think the main push back is that it is meaningless. What in the world does being gay (or black) have to do with Apple adding a watch face.

Be gay all you want, but why should it be pushed in everyone’s face? It is sad that there are people that the number one trait they want to be known as, is who they are attracted to. Not profession, not a defining activity (athlete/hobby/etc), but who they want to boink.

It's not really silly. Black joy, trans joy, disabled joy. Marginalized groups fought for equal rights after being discriminated against. It's not pushing it in everyone's face, it's achieving parity, finally. If a corporate entity wants to support it, so be it.

The gay flaunting trope is so tired at this point, consider the flip side using the same argument. After working in corporate America even before gay marriage was legal, people had pics of their opposite sex spouses on their desk, there was talk of where they were taking their kids to scope out colleges, or family vacations, and some had a weekly need to leave early to pick up their kids from school. All these things were constant in my face reminders of their "heterosexual lifestyle", aka a reminder of who they wanted to boink, and consequenses of actual boinking. Why should I have to deal with that? It's sad straight people have to flaunt their "lifestyle".

I think people should be able to be deal with a rainbow watch band without having their head explode.

 

[avz]

All these things were constant in my face reminders of their "heterosexual lifestyle", aka a reminder of who they wanted to boink, and consequenses of actual boinking. Why should I have to deal with that? It's sad straight people have to flaunt their "lifestyle".

Because your mere existence, your State, your "gay joy" lifestyle and technological advancements were made possible because of the traditional "heterosexual lifestyle".

It still remains to be seen what kind of State the "gay joy" crowd will be able to create from the ground up without piggybacking on the efforts of the "trivial" group of people.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

Because your mere existence, your State, your "gay joy" lifestyle and technological advancements were made possible because of the traditional "heterosexual lifestyle".

It still remains to be seen what kind of State the "gay joy" crowd will be able to create from the ground up without piggybacking on the efforts of the "trivial" group of people.

What on earth are you on about? Non-hetero folk just want to be happy as themselves. Not sure what that has to do with creating a state or whatever.

 

[avz]

What on earth are you on about? Non-hetero folk just want to be happy as themselves. Not sure what that has to do with creating a state or whatever.

You don't understand what it has to do with creating a State? This is a problem and the reason you are so useful for the likes of Trotsky to undermine a State.

You should be proud to serve a "trivial" group of people with a "heterosexual lifestyle" that you are not living in the Wild West and actually have a chance to be happy as yourself.

 

[The1Biz]

Because your mere existence, your State, your "gay joy" lifestyle and technological advancements were made possible because of the traditional "heterosexual lifestyle".

It still remains to be seen what kind of State the "gay joy" crowd will be able to create from the ground up without piggybacking on the efforts of the "trivial" group of people.

Whoa. I guess you really got me there.

I guess when straight people stop producing gay and trans kids then straight people won't have to have it "pushed in everyone's face".

Please get to work on that ASAP and let me know how it goes.

Also, people got to be themselves "not living in the Wild West" due to standing up and fighting for rights. That was never passively given, it was actively fought for.

Happy Pride everyone, even to the internet trolls!

 

[avz]

Also, people got to be themselves "not living in the Wild West" due to standing up and fighting for rights. That was never passively given, it was actively fought for.

There were plenty of fighting in the Wild West, but it still was a Wild West. State is probably more about responsibilities rather than fighting or rights. The rights will come naturally after the washing machine and what not.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

There were plenty of fighting in the Wild West, but it still was a Wild West. State is probably more about responsibilities rather than fighting or rights. The rights will come naturally after the washing machine and what not.

Something I thought of between all your posts on this thread: the fact that you think of heteronormativity and non-heterosexuality from some nonsensical philosophical / political angle says a lot about you.

Go out and meet people. Weather outside is great right now.

 

[avz]

Something I thought of between all your posts on this thread: the fact that you think of heteronormativity and non-heterosexuality from some nonsensical philosophical / political angle says a lot about you.

Go out and meet people. Weather outside is great right now.

The fact that you had to get personal says a lot about your "argument": you don't have any. You are just running errands for somebody who knows and understands more than you do.

 

[avz]

I guess when straight people stop producing gay and trans kids then straight people won't have to have it "pushed in everyone's face".

This just proves my point that you owe everything to the people with a "heterosexual lifestyle". And this is why you can't complain that "heterosexual lifestyle" is being pushed in your face. There is a good reason it should be as without it there would be no "Pride", "fighting for rights" or any other joy at all. It would actually be nothingness.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

The fact that you had to get personal says a lot about your "argument": you don't have any. You are just running errands for somebody who knows and understands more than you do.

It's pretty personal because I'm gay. I'm sure you'll view my words as having even less meaning after that.

You are able to abstract your opinion because, ultimately, none of this affects you. But please, go on, tell me how I am running errands when arguing about something that unfortunately has a large impact on my life.

 

[avz]

It's pretty personal because I'm gay. I'm sure you'll view my words as having even less meaning after that.

You are able to abstract your opinion because, ultimately, none of this affects you. But please, go on, tell me how I am running errands when arguing about something that unfortunately has a large impact on my life.

By your own admission you said that you don't understand what it has to do with creating a State. So you are already missing the big picture.

We all have our grievances and struggles but some of us do our best not to let immediate pressures get the best of our decision making in deciding what's best for everybody.

"Pride" and a right being "one of the guys who never gets a swipe from a girl on Tinder" are not quite the same and a manipulation is quite obvious.

 

[ProbablyDylan]

By your own admission you said that you don't understand what it has to do with creating a State. So you are already missing the big picture.

We all have our grievances and struggles but some of us do our best not to let immediate pressures get the best of our decision making in deciding what's best for everybody.

"Pride" and a right being "one of the guys who never gets a swipe from a girl on Tinder" are not quite the same and a manipulation is quite obvious.

Is the big picture in the room with us right now?