Oh, those people who get the heat flashes and vaginal dryness from the menopause posters in the hospitals. We don’t want that for them, sure.
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My favourite is when these same companies don't even dare to put anything close to a rainbow on their social media in any of the Middle Eastern or other countries that persecute the LGBT minorities.
I think this is just an ego boost to those who walk cities that are already LGBT-friendly and free. Kind of like "Oh look at me, I am being so accepting and so kind etc etc" They have fun at a Pride wherever they are, then continue on with their lives. A bracelet shows them as "supportive" so there is their social duty. Do they talk about or do anything to help those LGBT who are actually in danger? Most of the time, no! It would require far too much work and, plus, it is not so fun anyway. They don't have to help, no one is forcing them. Just stop with the hypocrisy.
This is inaccurate. I work in corporate America, like a lot of people do, and can confirm that there are companies where if you are NOT an "ally", you are demonized and forced out unless you agree to become an "ally". You can't even keep your mouth shut, do your work and avoid the "ally" police. I have former colleagues who can attest to this fact. You either agree and support or you are on your way out if you are discovered. Sound familiar?
So, yes there is absolutely discrimination in the other direction. It is 100% whether the company he works for is pro or anti. This is the same choice we all have to make and he will have to make it too. Unfortunately for everyone.
But that's literally what it comes down to. Other than that, we aren't any different than the person that lives down the street, across the hallway, etc. We all work, we all play, we all go out to eat. Yes one group chooses to separate themselves from everyone else, and not to say that wasn't for a valid reason a long time ago, we've moved past that decades ago. Mostly no one cares anymore get over yourself.
Because it's all a lie.
The worst part is how when people who wear these bands talk when they think they are in "safe company". Absolutely disgusting.
As someone previously mentioned, Disney "took a strong stand in Florida" yet absolutely destroyed all credibility with how they represent their films in not so "open societies." (Cough, China, cough.) I bet 3/4's of Disney employees will wear these bands, or something similar.
Specifically, how were you or your colleague demonized and forced to be an ally? I mean, if you didn't make a big deal about it and kept your opinions to yourself, how did you get "discovered"?
Meanwhile, there is nothing wrong with recognizing the history and patterns of discrimination to marginalized groups (e.g. minorities, women, and gay people). It helps prevent us from repeating mistakes. It was not that long ago that you could not get a security clearance if you were gay. You could not be openly gay in the military.
Some facts rather than anecdotes: The nondiscrimination statutes in most states do not explicitly include sexual orientation and gender identity as protected characteristics. Nearly half of all LGBT people lack protections from discrimination in employment, education, housing, public accommodations, and credit.
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I did not. I learned from watching what happened with them. It does not matter whether I agree or not, I just want to work without being badgered to participate in something personal if I do not agree with it. I decided to vote with my feet and left that company.
However, why do I have to not "make a big deal about it" and keep my opinions to myself? Is this not discrimination and the same thing that is being demonstrated against by the LGBTQ+ community?
It occurs to me that If I am not permitted to speak up, then why is anyone else allowed to speak up? Nobody knows how I identify and I don't publicize that for good reason - it is nobody else's business. I have found this to be a good policy.
This is a human problem masquerading as a sexual orientation problem.
Yes, it's a tragedy that your negative opinions about LGBT people are considered unpopular now. That sure is the same thing as the discrimination and hatred that LGBT people have faced throughout the years.
Social pressure and discrimination are different things, moreover.
So this is "virtue signaling" and doesn't mean anything, but it should be more than enough for LGBT activists? LGBT activists are well aware that corporations donning themselves in rainbows doesn't actually signify anything about the state of LGBT legislation and how LGBT people are treated. It signifies that corporations have latched onto a marketing gimmick, that appealing to LGBT people and showing support is considered "cool" now. While not inherently bad in itself, it doesn't mean anything as far as combating anti-LGBT legislation or lowering the suicide rate among trans people (things that LGBT activists are actually focused on), and it also says nothing about where that corporate money is going. LGBT cartoon characters and pride merchandise from Target and Apple are not what LGBT activists are working toward.
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You have no idea how quickly those rights can be stripped away. A couple of conservative legislatures can turn back the clock 50+ years in the blink of an eye. So yes, making yourself heard, making yourself visible, remains key.
That’s the US for you. If you run a country like a company, you can’t blame companies from taking political, social and activistic stands. In (Western) Europe, pride is nowhere near as commercialised as in the US. Pride is not used to sell more pizzas. Let’s hope it stays this way.
US is pushing heavily LGBT agenda in Western Europe as well.
Ok, so specifically, what Pride activities were you badgered into participating in at work? What did you want to say that you felt you could not say? How were you discriminated against?
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I did not want to be forced to decorate my cubical with pride materials. When I was questioned, I simply said that I do not participate in anything unrelated to work. I do not keep photos of friends, family or pets. I do not display personal items. I keep my work life and my personal life very separate - on purpose. When being told that everyone else is participating and it looks bad for me to not participate by my manager and by other colleagues, I decided that this was the demarcation point for me to find another job.
If they wanted to decorate the cubical I was sitting in, they simply could have done that. They did not need my permission or my agreement. Instead, they wanted me to do it and kept pestering me about it. The cubical did not belong to me. It was not my property. This was merely about harassing me to comply and do it myself. It was about attempting to coerce me into participating in something I did not want to participate in and it was not relevant to my job or even the company products or public mission.
The other two colleagues I had were not lucky enough to be able to find other jobs prior to being disciplined and subsequently dismissed. The official reasons for discipline and dismissal was never spoken about (for HR reasons, I am sure) and since I was not friendly or associated with them, I have no proof that they were dismissed for being vocal about their unwillingness to participate. It is only circumstantial, but appears to be related as they were productive employees as I knew of their work. What I do know for sure is that they both were quite vocal about not participating. I witnessed that in person.
What’s the US LGBT agenda? To be tolerant to people and not stone them to death? Well ok, bring it on.
Or is the US agenda to commercialise pride? We are very used in Europe to US companies trying their tactics over here but luckily most fail miserably. Or they are illegal.
I agree that you should not be harassed or badgered into decorating your work space. I would feel the same way if your company wanted you to decorate for say; Christmas or Easter. I am very surprised HR would fire someone simply for refusing to decorate, and I guess you have no actual proof that your colleagues were dismissed because they did not hang up some Pride decorations. I guess we will never know.
See there’s your problem. Assuming only conservatives are the problem. Most true conservatives don’t care. There are political actors that do nothing but ride whatever the popular wave is. Two of the last three presidents are shining examples of that. Neither of them are conservative by any stretch of the imagination. I’m all for people getting to be with who they want to be with, I’ll fight right there with whomever is truly be oppressed, but can I please attend a hockey game or football game without having to hear about who that person is that you choose to be with? MOST OF US DON’T CARE AND ARE HAPPY THAT YOU ARE HAPPY. Why do we have to talk about it all the time?
Refusing to put pronouns in your bio, not having flags, posters, not participating in walks/community events, not posting pro-whatever, to name a few.
Exactly.
I should not have to pick a side in a debate in order to avoid being labeled one way or another. In my case, I just wanted to go to work and mind my own business. If I do not want to participate, I am not sure why that is a problem. I do know that I don't let others define me with their labels - employers included. I'm not an activist and I don't participate in activism.
While it is understandable, it is a sad state of affairs that this article needs to be posted in the political forum.
Gee, it is just rainbow 🌈 colors.
Gee, it is just rainbow 🌈 colors.
Yes & yes
Now where can I get my special look at me I’m an atheist band?
I still haven’t told 90% of my religious family, friends or co workers.
People shouldn't be singled out for their religious views, sexual preferences or ethnicity, whether it is to praise or criticize.
we are all just humans
So would it be OK for parents to praise one sibling over the other for being straight… Or gay? poor example
Look at the tough guy sitting behind his computer. You must work for Apple because you're just so brave.
Virtue signalling is hijacking of a virtue for personal gain.
The British used "No independence until the black majority rules" to make sure that the African states will not have statesmanship competencies necessary therefore remaining highly dependent despite the official "independent" status.
I agree. Virtue signaling is about words. Apple backs up their words with actions.
You missed the point as in my example virtue signalling is an action. The question is who is the beneficiary of that action. This is where the tricky part.
It is about how to action virtues like "independence" and "black majority" together in order to make sure that the black majority have less independence than before.
Isn’t it okay for parents to, for example, praise one kid’s accomplishments in sports even if their sibling isn’t good in sports, and alternatively to praise the other sibling for their academic achievements even if their sibling is struggling in that area?
My parents can celebrate the fact that I choose to live authentically even though that authenticity is discouraged still by many around the world, and then look at my brother and celebrate the fact that he is a wonderful father to his kids (which will never apply to me as I don’t want kids), for example.
Parents should meet their kids where they are, cause we are all individuals with different interests, life experiences, and journeys. If parents aren’t capable of praising or celebrating their kids equally for their singular experiences and who they are, then the fault is in the parent, not in what is being highlighted.