I can't even use Google wallet on my HTC One and I have no reason to use NFC tags. If some people use it fine but Apple should not make this as priority feature.
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I can't even use Google wallet on my HTC One and I have no reason to use NFC tags. If some people use it fine but Apple should not make this as priority feature.
I am not saying that is why you have one, but I know that is why most people ages 16-25 have them.
I don't know about 'most' as its a little unsubstantiated and a bit broad a claim to pass off as fact in my view. It may well be true but I have no idea how to back it up?
Its also worth noting that it isn't a bad thing buying something because you perceive it as cool. I see the iPhone get some abuse because people who don't have it accuse its success on it just being a brand. I buy certain things due to their brand name and I think everybody does whether they care to admit it or not. Its not the sole reason I purchased the iPhone but it helps that it is a nice looking device and one of the top desired phones on the market at present of course. It helps its also very nice to use and allows you to do tasks easily. There is nothing wrong with liking the look of something even if it appears to be a source of negativity for some consumers.
If the iPhone is purchased by the core section of the youth of today purely on the 'cool factor', Apple are doing everything right. If your product is popular and every (most) teenager or young person wants it, that is a massive achievement and not to be sniffed at IMO.
I never said it was a bad thing. I think the first post about the note 2 being cool was suggestion that it was bad. I don't buy my phone just because it is cool, but like you said it does play a part.
In your opinion of course, just because you don't/can't use it doesn't others don't.
It is the carriers that disallows you to use Google wallet. It works on the Nexus devices. Tmo for example supports another payment app (isis) and not Google wallet so i cant use GW either but can use isis.
However if i have a N4, GW will work with TMo because it is unlocked and has none of their bloatware to hold it back
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iPhone had always superior SOCs compared to android devices, so saying that android devices have better specs is out of the question. And I'll take glass and aluminium over a plastic pebble.
That is not true at all. I like Apple, but saying that is kind of crazy. The HTC one's hardware is just as good now, and specs are better right now. I know Apple has not release a phone this year, but still the One spec wise is better.
No, no, Apple's GPU have almost always beaten out the competition. Yes, right now it's being beaten by the HTC One... but that's because we're at about 3/4 of a year since the iPhone 5 launched against a phone that launched earlier this year.
Read my post. What did I say? Apple has not release a phone this year, so yes it is kind of unfair to compare. I am just saying all we have to compare is the iphone 5, and it not as good. Yea maybe the iphone 5s will be even better, but guess what the HTC one will be about 6 months old at that point. Is that fair?
But better! Look I love my iphone 5 and my nexus 4. I just don't think Apple is miles ahead of Google. I have since changed my views from my original post.
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You have no idea what your talking about.android has always been a full generation ahead of apple in soc and cpus.
just look at the exynos in the gs2 it was the first soc to use a pure bread cortex a9 core and the gs4 with the exynos 5 is the first and only phone in the world that is using next gen architecture and is the only phone using a true arm a15 power house and not a hybrid core.
not even the snapdragon 800 that is do this winter can compete clock for clock performance with the true arm a15 cores in the gs4.
samsung has always been first to use next gen cores and always used true reference designs right from the makers of arm
do you think the 5s can out perform the pure reference design of the people that made the architecture in the first place?
I dont see apple using any a15 big little socs and the is the latest and greatest from arm . Android has always been ahead in soc designs and just look at the gs3.it came out way before the iphone 5 and a month after the iphone 5 came out we had the first exynos 5 dual core that used a next gen a15 architecture in the nexus 10 and now we have an octa core version of that soc in the gs4
the exynos 5 octa in the gs4 is the first phone to use ddr3 for its memory controller also,I dont see any apple socs using ddr3 but ohh wait didnt samsung build all there socs lmfao
id also like to add that samsung sold its a15 dual core dev kit 2 weeks after the iphone 5 came out for developers to start coding for the next gen soc.
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Yea I agree. I love how people always want to bring specs up with iPhones and androids. You will never win with that, but Apple is not trying to do that, people stop trying to say they are. What iPhones do so well at is doing more with less. Look at the iphone 5. It has a 1.3GHz A6 that keeps up with 1.5GHz quad core phones. I think this comes down to iOS and android. iOS is a much lighter OS than android, and that dual core can keep right up. Android on the other hand has got a lot going on at one time, and can be taxing. It needs a bigger processor to run smooth. To start talking about specs for an Apple user is not the smartest thing. Android right now has better insides, but ios still keeps up with less. Just the way iOS is optimized.
I think it's a little too early to declare Apple behind the curve.
This could very well be true, but i'd give it 12-18 more months to see what Apple puts out before making that judgement.
Tim Cook may not be the products person Jobs was, but Apple still has a lot of the key players and talented engineers that have created their best offerings.
The success of their new products will define their trajectory in the Tim Cook era.
This could very well be true, but i'd give it 12-18 more months to see what Apple puts out before making that judgement.
Tim Cook may not be the products person Jobs was, but Apple still has a lot of the key players and talented engineers that have created their best offerings.
The success of their new products will define their trajectory in the Tim Cook era.
Seems this is what is said every year now and then your still disapointed and "lets wait til next year" is said again.
Well I think people that are on the fence on whether they like android or iOS say this. People that have loved iOS all along dont really care if Apple changes the iphone that much. They are happy with how it is right now.
People always talk about how they think the quality of iOS apps is better than their android counterparts. However that definitely has changed and there are many apps that have much better android versions than the iOS versions and don't have features crippled to abide by Apples in app purchase rules. (See amazon kindle app, etc) Another example is the Accuweather app. Its horrible on iOS yet the android version is beautiful, functional, and cleaner.
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Android Version
You can also check the reviews. The android version is close to 5 stars while the iOS version is rated at around 3.7-8. Android's holo UI simply looks and functions better than iOS's UI elements.
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Android Version
You can also check the reviews. The android version is close to 5 stars while the iOS version is rated at around 3.7-8. Android's holo UI simply looks and functions better than iOS's UI elements.
Thats what they said just before the release of the iPad, the macbook air, the iPhone 4, etc...
Yeah I think you are right with that statement. I know people who have iPhones since the very start and you ask them if they are bored of them and they laugh and say no. Colleagues of mine are happy with their iPhone to the point where they are blissfully unaware of what the opposition are doing and when its upgrade time they either stick with the phone they have or just get the next iPhone. There is nothing wrong with that of course. I like to keep up with the latest gadgets and technology as it interests me but there are people who think 'if its not broke, don't fix it'.
On Mac Rumors we have many discussions where we share thoughts on strengths and weaknesses of devices and its clear its a passion for some. Yet some don't care how many phones Samsung, Apple and HTC are selling or whether one is lacking features over the other. I like my phone to do all the day to day tasks easily and effectively. I don't wish to play around with settings and customising my phone so its like no other, but that is just me. I certainly wouldn't suggest anybody is wrong for liking to tinker around with software and the market allows devices for all tastes.
Apple may well have once been ahead of the curve but they are responsible for the way there competitors have developed IMO. Apple were never going to be the market leader forever and I think people are a little naive to think Apple are somehow failing because they no longer hold this position. They produce one phone and one OS. The market has grown and Apple hold a healthy position supplying a very good product. I think the pressure is more on Samsung to maintain their position as their business model is built on supplying many devices and bringing new features. Apple have a steady position even if expectation is high across all manufacturers. Just my personal thoughts and my perceptions.
If one takes that to its logical conclusion, one has to wonder; "If they were aware of what the opposition were doing", would they still stay with the iPhone?
Yeah I think you are right with that statement. I know people who have iPhones since the very start and you ask them if they are bored of them and they laugh and say no. Colleagues of mine are happy with their iPhone to the point where they are blissfully unaware of what the opposition are doing and when its upgrade time they either stick with the phone they have or just get the next iPhone. There is nothing wrong with that of course. I like to keep up with the latest gadgets and technology as it interests me but there are people who think 'if its not broke, don't fix it'.
On Mac Rumors we have many discussions where we share thoughts on strengths and weaknesses of devices and its clear its a passion for some. Yet some don't care how many phones Samsung, Apple and HTC are selling or whether one is lacking features over the other. I like my phone to do all the day to day tasks easily and effectively. I don't wish to play around with settings and customising my phone so its like no other, but that is just me. I certainly wouldn't suggest anybody is wrong for liking to tinker around with software and the market allows devices for all tastes.
Apple may well have once been ahead of the curve but they are responsible for the way there competitors have developed IMO. Apple were never going to be the market leader forever and I think people are a little naive to think Apple are somehow failing because they no longer hold this position. They produce one phone and one OS. The market has grown and Apple hold a healthy position supplying a very good product. I think the pressure is more on Samsung to maintain their position as their business model is built on supplying many devices and bringing new features. Apple have a steady position even if expectation is high across all manufacturers. Just my personal thoughts and my perceptions.
I since owning and using iPhones through the iPhone 4 would call myself an android guy. After the I4 I went to a skinned version of android, and then to the nexus line. After using android for about 2 years I decided to see what the iPhone 5 had to offer. Had it for about 7 months and then got the note 2. Not long after the note 2 I got the nexus 4. I am now back to using my iPhone 5, and have a sim adaptor to use my nexus 4 too if I want.
I say all of this to say my views may have changed over the last serval months. After using the i5 I thought I would most likely never go back to iOS again. I dogged it pretty hard after I stopped using it. Then I realized just about a month ago iOS does what I use my phone most for better. I need push notification on my phone. Whether it be macrumors, Facebook, or any other app I depend on push notification for. iOS can handle them better. I say the because tapatalk on android does not offer push notification at all on android. One of the things I enjoy doing on my phone is talking on forums. It helps break up my work day. Not have info for when someone quotes you, or replies to your tread can be a pain in the butt. I am not saying android does not do push notification well. Just not on the apps I use. Which in these cases are not androids fault. I realize now my smartphone is more about what gets the things I do most done better. Right now the iPhone does that. I am not more about functioning for my needs then me being able to customize the home screens. iOS may be kind of boring, but it is working for me.