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Apple Vision Pro Priced Starting at $3499, Will Launch in Early 2024 in the U.S.

Odan said:
I get that the technology is crazy but at that price I’d like steam compatibility as well. Apple Arcade? no thanks. Also it would be really cool if it could act as a Mac mini main display for travel purposes.
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Obviously no official reports yet, but Steam for Mac just released No Man's Sky with Apple's help to heavily optimize.
They (Apple) seem to be legitimately interested in putting a lot more effort into the gaming side of things for this - and seeing NMS didn't launch on the App Store makes it seem more promising.

I think Steam will be a total go for this device.

The display for the Mac mini also sounds like a go based on the "look at your Mac and it connects automatically" demo they showed. Worse case is we may need one of the HDMI display dongles to get it to detect a virtual display. I doubt it though - native support should be a no brainer soon after launch.
 
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Initial impressions -

... One more thing... (Only made me miss Steve more?)

I'm wondering how the people who created the demo videos reviewed/screened the videos in advance of the keynote, and if they really only intended it to be watched on big screens, because, it felt claustrophobic at times? The opposite of what I'd imagine they're going for?

They packed a lot of amazing tech in all of this? Inside and out. From the processors to the sensors, it's a lot of tech there. Eye tracking and gesture tracking, along with Siri?

They mentioned *feel* more than once.. are we going to get tactile VR gloves as an add-on at some point???

The facial simulation sounds, creepy, but perhaps people using this with FaceTime will find it works well?

"We studied thousands of heads" - Great, but if it still doesn't fit me, if there's obnoxious amounts of light bleed or it slips off my face, will Apple find a way to make it work, or just offer a return/refund option and put it into a refurb pile?

I wish that they'd discussed battery life/charging/battery swapping in more detail? AC power option possible?

The fake eyes on the outside look creepy as Hell, and I really hope there's an option to turn it off...

MS Office? Really? Who in the world wants MS Office strapped to their face. Who in the world thought to include that in this demo? Who in the Hell is paying this kind of money to have MS Office in their face????? Apple, introduce me to that customer, I have a bridge or two to sell them!!!!

I'm really shocked that there wasn't a much bigger focus on fitness??? It would seem to be the much better use case for most users to project fitness training exercises in AR space than, again, MS Office??? I'd have thought that they'd have a full line-up of fitness routines at least from sports featured on AppleTV? Available as add-ons in the app store, of course. It really feels like an odd omission???

I mean, between MS Office and sitting and watching TV... I just didn't see that as the direction Apple would lean with this??? I'd really thought that it would have a much more... active use case???

Very surprised that there wasn't a demo showing much more 3D modeling work? Barely a mention of it relative to other things?

The laptop mirroring was interesting? They could have done more with that part of the demo? Offload heavy processing to an M2 (M3, M4,etc) Ultra Studio/Mac Pro and display/control from the Vision?

No PC connectivity makes it annoyingly limiting for a $3500 purchase? It also eliminates an entire segment of potential customers who don't mind dropping $$$ on graphics cards, high-end PC input devices (sim wheels, etc), low latency monitors, who could have been tempted by this device, even at this price, if it was better than competing options.

Was Bob filmed on an empty sound stage? Not one person yelling, "PAY YOUR WRITERS!" I yelled. I also used my favorite ... gestures.

Speaking of watching Movies/TV on Vision... I'm curious why they showed anything other than the biggest most impressive screen/PoV possible with the device? The smaller screen with the colors over-laid in the room looked... awful?

I'm hoping that the MST3K Gizmoplex looks better than that on the Vision.

I'm curious about the cost, and the approach to this roll-out? Some are claiming that this isn't supposed to be a consumer device, wait 5 years... but, if that were the case, why not release it as a dev kit today to registered devs only for $999? $3500 is going to be too steep for even the most die-hard Apple early adopters and many small independent developers... And I'd prefer to have ... more people get their hands on it asap to you know.. break things. (especially the battery) Otherwise, it won't be what most people really want until version 4 or 5 in 2030?

I'm really interested/excited to see where all this goes, but the cost, along with missing connectivity I'd want, will probably keep me on the side-lines until the 2nd or 3rd version at least?
 
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I see a lot of photos of smiling, and meditative, folks wearing the device
What are they actually looking at?
 
As someone that thought this headset would be a gimmick, I’m thoroughly impressed. All those extra screens for photo/video editing would be a game changer for me (assuming the colors aren’t extremely off)

Also curious how the gaming in every room would work? I saw them use a PS5 controller and couldn’t tell if it was playing a PS5 game away from the console or using the PS5 controller to play an ios game.

I could see myself getting the 2nd or 3rd gen of this when the price comes down and gets better battery life.
 
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wyrdness said:
Single apartment dwellers who never invite friends around to watch a game or a movie.

I have not yet figured out what the point of this device is.
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That's a good point - but yah. This is for YOU. It's "personal" a little bit. You surfing the web, or you watching a movie.

I might buy 3 sets and hoping for some avatar interactions to develop in years to come.


The point of this device - well you can tell grandpa to buy you one and one for him because you want to make 3D VR Videos of your kids and relive the experience through the Vision Pro headsets.

3D content creation - I think this feature alone makes these worthwhile. I have a huge library of family get togethers and stuff. 3D VR will be awesome. Killer app right there.

The other one is buying a Mac Pro or Studio and thinking about "what? really? 12 monitors?" - that would be cool. Maybe I would like to have many screens at once - in this use case, Vision Pro is cheaper. Maybe it's a compromise if you have to put many many hours in front of computer screens - but it's an interesting option that I will definitely explore once I get the chance to actually try them.

I'm hoping as a developer I can get them before the public
 
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I want to say this is not a product for the "average" consumer or user. But nearly everything they showed in the presentation targeted the "average" consumer.

So it's very confusing to me. To me, this just looks like a public access Concept product and the relatively few who buy this are doing it just for that reason. Not the reasons shown in the presentation.

Apple knows that it's not going to have a massive audience and it's priced like a high quality LOW volume product. Currently, there is no Economy of Scale with this product, simple as that.
 
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Remember that this one has eye tracking and foveated rendering.

Hololens 2 is similar price range and is so much worse.

A Vajo XR3 costs around $6500 and then you have to be hooked up to a RTX4090 and a decent rig.

So currently $3500 is quite cheap!
 
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sbuntin said:
Nope. Prescription lenses are going to have a cost. That's not discriminatory, that's life.

For this thing, they'll need to be a custom setup, not just generic lenses. They'll be ridiculously high priced, but that's also fairly common for "brand name" lenses.
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I guess that depends on what you're used to. Here, lens are pretty standard in pricing - of course you pay extra for them to be shaved and coated, but even then you're talking less than £100. Most of the cost of glasses is made up of the frames which can vary from next to nothing to stupid pricces. And of course, we have a decent healthcare system which gives a whole bunch of folks completely free glasses - though I doubt that's going to be same demographic willing to cough up £3-4k on this anyway!

Apple totally could have designed this to fit folks with glasses without the need for extra lenses. You're telling me none of the data they got from the 'thousands of heads' they surveyed didn't give them what they'd need to do that?

It may not be discriminatory in how things are perceived today, but excessive pricing sure ain't going to be great for their credibilty when it accessibility and inclusion - two areas they often claim to pride themselves on.
 
Zuckerberg watching WWDC 2023, having a Meta Quest 2 moment

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SmugMaverick said:
No one said the Apple Watch was too expensive, only the steel and gold models.

I think personally, I would spend maximum £2000 on one but I expect a £3800 price tag once it hits the UK.
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Extrapolating from the pricing of the 15" MBA, you're spot on.

1299 USD = 1049 GBP + 20% VAT = 1259 GBP. But 1399 appears to be an "Apple foreign sales markup" of 11.11%.
3499 USD = 2825 GBP + 20% VAT = 3390 GBP + 11% = 3763 GBP. They'll bump that to minimum of 3769, but likely 3799 for retail psychology reasons.
 
chrisdazzo said:
t Even 3D TVs back in the day had the ability to be watched by more than one person at any given time, though... Am I gonna buy a family of four $15k worth of headsets so we can all relive memories, or close to $4k (w/ tax) for one so we can watch one at a time? Just seems like a strange value prop. And making one thing easy ≠ make it necessary. We'll see how this pans out, but I'm far from the Kool-Aid table today.
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Yah, I'm thinking about that. Luckily it's not an issue really to buy 3 sets or whatever. We'll do it.

How about an 8 year old building lego with augmented reality instruction assembly guide? Just cool right? Can't take your money to heaven - enjoy life.
 
BobSc said:
Does it come with a way of connecting it directly to a non battery power source for continuous usage?
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I think it's called a power cord or a U S B or something like that.


Can you look up the specifications for me? While you are at it, find out the weight of the Vision Pro headset as well, I want to compare the weight to all the existing VR goggles - not really the same thing, but similar enough for me to want to know how much lighter the Apple Vision Pro headset is......
 
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Odan said:
I get that the technology is crazy but at that price I’d like steam compatibility as well. Apple Arcade? no thanks. Also it would be really cool if it could act as a Mac mini main display for travel purposes.
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It surely will work as a computer display.
 
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Mike4AU said:
I would have given serious consideration to buying one for $3k out the door, but $3,500 plus $350 tax plus more for prescription lens cost plus tax on that makes my decision easy. I will pass.
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Betting you're about 649 low on the prescription lenses.
 
Truly amazed by the number of people here who think it’s a follow on from the iPhone 14. This isn’t intended as a consumer product. “Missing Christmas” nor is it intended to be something you’ll be seeing packing busy commuter trains.

Just like the iPhone 1 and iPod 1 this is a first gen product intended to start the evolutionary path - vision pro 3-4 (probably just vision at that point) is where you’d expect mass adoption starting to take place.

We as developers however NEED THIS NOW - I can’t wait.
 
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