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Apple Vs. The Media, This is why I don't put any weight behind most reviews.

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I7guy said:
Not true about extracting photos and video. Plug in iphone, trust the computer and off you go. The iphone is a drive on the computer. If my 91 year old aunty can do this, anybody can.
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This is true. There is some misinformation going around about Apple which is pretty much the same for Android. I can plug my 5s into my windows desktop and it pops up like a drive. Even for 3rd party ringtones and such, once I set up the desktop zedge app, I never really mess with itunes again.

I just use iTunes to make a desktop backup every now & then.
 
I7guy said:
Not true about extracting photos and video. Plug in iphone, trust the computer and off you go. The iphone is a drive on the computer. If my 91 year old aunty can do this, anybody can.
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Certainly looks like mib has absolutely no experience with iOS.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
So what is this actually saying in response to me?
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I'm saying your insinuation every company manipulates the media to the extent Apple does is wrong. That whole everyone does it so it's okay for Apple to do it is a dumb inaccurate argument.

During bendgate whole lot of phones got bent besides 6's - Galaxy Notes, M8's, 1520's, etc. Only company that rolled out the blacklist was Apple
 
Liquorpuki said:
I'm saying your insinuation every company manipulates the media to the extent Apple does is wrong. That whole everyone does it so it's okay for Apple to do it is a dumb inaccurate argument.



During bendgate whole lot of phones got bent besides 6's - Galaxy Notes, M8's, 1520's, etc. Only company that rolled out the blacklist was Apple
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Every tech company manipulates the media, to what extent I have never offered a concise measure. I think we've discussed a lot since then and it's slowly becoming apparent that it's really of little interest to some of us because it doesn't affect our buying choices anyway. If you decide you won't buy Apple products because they blacklist certain review outlets, all the power to you.
 
Liquorpuki said:
I'm saying your insinuation every company manipulates the media to the extent Apple does is wrong. That whole everyone does it so it's okay for Apple to do it is a dumb inaccurate argument.

During bendgate whole lot of phones got bent besides 6's - Galaxy Notes, M8's, 1520's, etc. Only company that rolled out the blacklist was Apple
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That's because, the only company that really got media attention was Apple. I didn't see a single article or website spring up after the Note 4 got bent. Did you? There was the initial video, and yet here we are, still talking about how only iPhones are bending.
 
mercuryjones said:
That's because, the only company that really got media attention was Apple. I didn't see a single article or website spring up after the Note 4 got bent. Did you? There was the initial video, and yet here we are, still talking about how only iPhones are bending.
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That's because the notes aren't selling like they used to.
Poor Samsung.
 
I7guy said:
Not true about extracting photos and video. Plug in iphone, trust the computer and off you go. The iphone is a drive on the computer. If my 91 year old aunty can do this, anybody can.
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Dontazemebro said:
This is true. There is some misinformation going around about Apple which is pretty much the same for Android. I can plug my 5s into my windows desktop and it pops up like a drive. Even for 3rd party ringtones and such, once I set up the desktop zedge app, I never really mess with itunes again.

I just use iTunes to make a desktop backup every now & then.
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I am not just talking about the camera roll folder which can be accessed by PTP. Not any app can create files in that folder. That's a pretty limited file exchange capability. All other file exchange needs to be done via itunes.
 
mib1800 said:
I am not just talking about the camera roll folder which can be accessed by PTP. Not any app can create files in that folder. That's a pretty limited file exchange capability. All other file exchange needs to be done via itunes.
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Seems like you are back pedaling.

I've had the 5s for almost a year and somehow not having the entire phone available as a drive on my computer has not been a limitation.
 
I7guy said:
Seems like you are back pedaling.

I've had the 5s for almost a year and somehow not having the entire phone available as a drive on my computer has not been a limitation.
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Really? OK. Uninstall Dropbox from your 5s (or turn airplane mode on/wireless off) and see how you will live with it. :p
 
I7guy said:
Don't have Dropbox installed.

Why don't you turn airplane mode on, wireless off, short out your usb/sd card and try it out as well. :)
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Looks like you want to go off the deep end. Well, enjoy your trip. :p

Whole point is that it is confusing and complicated to transfer files in and out of iphone. One method for photo/video another for other type of files. So it is not simple as you and others claimed.
 
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I7guy said:
Seems like you are back pedaling.



I've had the 5s for almost a year and somehow not having the entire phone available as a drive on my computer has not been a limitation.
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Yup your right, back peddling.
 
mib1800 said:
You and I (and many others in here) are the savvy ones but we form the minority. Unfortunately, the vast majority are enticed/swayed by the marketing/ads/media. Otherwise, the advertising industry would have died out long ago.
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Samsung spent way more on advertising than Apple, and you chose to single out Apple as an example of deceptive advertising?
 
CEmajr said:
Another funny thing is those claiming "marketing" is why everyone buys the iPhone. Those people might have a point if Apple enjoyed strong iPhone sales for 2 or 3 years, but at some point if the competition is just that much better than you, marketing can't get you to the promised land. You have to have the product to back up the hype at some point. People don't keep buying a mediocre product for 7 years just because of marketing hype.
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How exactly do you think the cosmetics industry makes money? The "premium" Vodka companies?

Like I said, some of you don't understand marketing. Done effectively you can sell anything. What Apple is doing, you can track back to Edward Bernays. It works. It's not purely about spending the most money - it is about pulling the correct levers and keeping the entire set of actions consistent, from advertising to product management and implications of that all the down to manufacturing and supply chain.
 
Osamede said:
How exactly do you think the cosmetics industry makes money? The "premium" Vodka companies?

Like I said, some of you don't understand marketing. Done effectively you can sell anything. What Apple is doing, you can track back to Edward Bernays. It works. It's not purely about spending the most money - it is about pulling the correct levers and keeping the entire set of actions consistent, from advertising to product management and implications of that all the down to manufacturing and supply chain.
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Well then, maybe Samsung should take a page from apples book. Their sales could use some improving in the flagship dept. /sar

Maybe you buy mediocre products because of marketing, but I dont. I do agree though there is a mentality that exists: "if you build it, they will come" there sometimes is no accounting for taste even when the marketing stinks.
 
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FFR said:
That's because the notes aren't selling like they used to.
Poor Samsung.
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yes.....Samsung is doomed! /s

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I7guy said:
Well then, maybe Samsung should take a page from apples book. Their sales could use some improving in the flagship dept. /sar

Maybe you buy mediocre products because of marketing, but I dont. I do agree though there is a mentality that exists: "if you build it, they will come" there sometimes is no accounting for taste even when the marketing stinks.
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It works for Apple.......

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Osamede said:
How exactly do you think the cosmetics industry makes money? The "premium" Vodka companies?

Like I said, some of you don't understand marketing. Done effectively you can sell anything. What Apple is doing, you can track back to Edward Bernays. It works. It's not purely about spending the most money - it is about pulling the correct levers and keeping the entire set of actions consistent, from advertising to product management and implications of that all the down to manufacturing and supply chain.
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Yep.......you can even sell bendable phones.......
 
Or to the point most apple fanboys vehemently insist 1gb of Ram is more than enough. "You will never ever require more than 640K of memory"
 
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Apple Vs. The Media, This is why I don't put any weight behind most reviews.

I7guy said:
Yes sir, and it works for Samsung also.
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It doesn't look like Samsung mobile will do well this quarter. We all know the Galaxy s5 isn't selling, at least now we now just how bad it's doing, only 12 million units (the iPhone 5c apparently outsold the s5 in the uk).
The Galaxy s4 shipped 40 million units by October 23 2013.

"There's been a few signs that not all is well in Samsung's mobile division, with the company pledging to make fewer new devices, as well as its chief taking a pay cut. If the Wall Street Journal is to be believed, the cause of this unrest is all down to faltering sales of the Galaxy S5, which has apparently sold four million fewer phones than its predecessor. According to the report, the company is still riding high in the US, but saw sales in China drop by 50 percent compared to the Galaxy S4. Considering that Samsung was so confident that the device would be a blockbuster that it increased production by 20 percent, it could now have as many a four million unsold devices sitting in warehouses. The paper's sources believe that the drops will trigger a leadership re-shuffle, with mobile chief JK Shin getting pushed, with his duties handed over to TV & home appliance chief BK Yoon."
 
Anyone that complains about media bias, be it politics, technology, or anything else; is displaying their own bias and not other's.
 
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