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Mac2me

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Looks very nice! But Wow! $36 a pop. I just checked them out, and they look identical to the Yesoo brand i purchased a while back for $12 or $13 shipped. They came with an imitation pentalobe screwdriver also. I am leaning towards the ones that use the Phillips head screws more. They seem to have a nicer finish and similar to Clockworksynergy ones. I do love the springbar versions as the bands look flush and fit perfect on them apart from the unfinished sides. I have an assortment of all types currently in use.

Also the ones i purchased from Inkoo recently all came with the screw threads covered in a blue color thread locker. So once it's screwed in it should technically never come loose. Slight change from the ones i got from him a few weeks back. Seems that quality is getting better. :)

I thought the purpose or method of using threadlocker was to apply it to the screw and then insert the screw in the screw hole and not move it until it had cured some amount of time. Full cure wouldn't happen for 24 hours. I'm scratching my head over applying the threadlocker on and letting it dry on a screws and then trying to insert it. How is the essentially "super glue" forming a bond between the screw and the screw hole thread? Loctite even mentions using the threadlocker to form a water tight bond so that rusting doesn't happen by water intrusion. I can only see that happening if the threadlocker is applied while wet to both parts.
 
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Mac2me

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Armski I was referring to 20mm width on the spring pin adapters. The adapters mlklwise linked to were spring pins. Check out the width dimension in the second photo, the text reads 19.5mm. If you check out the photo of the lugs from Freedomoclock for the 38mm adapter the caliper reads 20mm. I do agree there may be more band width play using the classic style adapter.

I would be mindful of buying spring pin adapters that don't all take the same band widths should you need to swap them out.
 
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Armski

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The ones on my screws are not actually super glue, but what i can best describe as teflon tape put on part of the threads. When screwed into place it creates a tighter fit. So in theory the screw would need to be turned physically for it to undo. I cant see the screw coming undone by itself with the blue teflon type stuff. For a closer a look at what i mean check the screws in this pic. See the blue stuff on the side of the threads?

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Armski

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Armski I was referring to 20mm width on the spring pin adapters. The adapters mlklwise linked to were spring pins. Check out the width dimension in the second photo. I do agree there may be more band width play using the classic style adapter.

I would be mindful of buying spring pin adapters that don't all take the same band widths should you need to swap them out.


Oh i stand corrected. 22mm bands on utica 38mm adapters i have not tried. I've tried 22mm's on regular 38mm adapters for a friends watch. However, some 24mm bands on my utica 42mm adapters are very difficult to take out as there is no gap between the band and the lugs. So if you really wanted to play it safe with really thick bulky straps you can go slightly smaller. But i don't like to see springbar ends on either side of the band.
 

orev

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I thought the purpose or method of using threadlocker was to apply it to the screw and then insert the screw in the screw hole and not move it until it had cured some amount of time. Full cure wouldn't happen for 24 hours. I'm scratching my head over applying the threadlocker on and letting it dry on a screws and then trying to insert it. How is the essentially "super glue" forming a bond between the screw and the screw hole thread? Loctite even mentions using the threadlocker to form a water tight bond so that rusting doesn't happen by water intrusion. I can only see that happening if the threadlocker is applied while wet to both parts.

There are different kinds of thread locker, some are permanent (or almost permanent) "super glue" type and others only add some extra friction but are not permanent. I really don't think you want a permanent one on something like this. That is only for serious industrial use. The non-permanent types are typically blue and can be either a liquid or a tape. Permanent ones are red.

For any of them, you pretty much apply it and then screw it in. There is no reason to apply it and then wait for it to dry before you screw it in. That makes no sense at all.
 

orev

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Also to clarify the original comment, they can also apply a threadlocker at the factory which is a little different than what you typically get with locktite. It's more of a paste than a liquid but works just the same. It only adds some friction -- it is not "glue"
 
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Mac2me

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Here's a photo of the Loctite 222 (purple) I bought off of an Amazon seller in the Automotive section. Also posting parts of Loctite's chart for specifications. Note the torque column to break the bond, twice that needed for the blue 242. If you end up distorting the blade tip of the tiny screwdriver trying to get the screw out or strip the screw head and can't get enough force to then remove it I guess you'd have to cut the adapter tubes to remove the band.

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slvrscoobie

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yeah my guy (Freedomoclock) already sent me tracking information so well see. I think i might swap out the Clockwork Synergy strap with these lugs. Now what to buy to go with the those lugs. I kinda want a white sports band, and I still want a black sports band or similar, but havent seen any I like (all have a silver clasp)
 

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For 42mm watch 24mm is standard on utica lugs (but can manage 25-26mm on classic style lugs)


This is interesting. If it actually fits, a thick 26mm leather band could make classic screwbar lugs look a lot prettier. (can't stand the "centered" look)
Is there any confirmation/photo?
 

Armski

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This is interesting. If it actually fits, a thick 26mm leather band could make classic screwbar lugs look a lot prettier. (can't stand the "centered" look)
Is there any confirmation/photo?


I think i recall user 'msink' tried 26mm bands on their regular adapters.

Found their post here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...nd-strap-thread.1866289/page-51#post-21499136

Personally i think it's too wide for the watch and overwhelms the main watch face. 24mm looks best.
 
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orev

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Received my spring adapters from freedomoclock09/utica today. I ordered the ones from their "black" eBay listing, but they also have another listing labeled "grey". They confirmed to me in email that the grey one is actually black, so there is no alternative version for SGS people. They are definitely black but I think it looks fine on a Space Gray Sport.

I switched from the bar style adapter to the spring style one because I was getting annoyed that the band would not stay centered on the bar, and the bar sticks out a bit from the watch allowing dust to get in which can be seen easily. My immediate impression is that the spring style looks much better.

Bar style adapter:
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Spring style adapter:
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My only concern with these is that the hole for the spring bar is very close to the edge, as can be seen here:
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So far it seems secure, but I will keep an eye on it.

Also, the little black plastic top that covers the spring on one of them came out slightly, but it's pretty easy to just push it back in. I don't plan to change the band very often, so I don't see this as a concern.

The band on here is 24mm and there's no way anything bigger would fit.
 
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Armski

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do you have any photos for comparison?


Sure i'll try to take better pics later with comparison of the normal and the 'newer' style springbar adapter. I actually don't like them as much as they resemble the 'click' adapters more with the wider profile. Will update later.
 
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Armski

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I got the same one and it came today. From the guy from Arizona?


Correct the 'arizona' guy. 'elifegadget' on ebay. Was cheaper so thought i'd give them a shot. I have more coming from 'Utica' guy so may not end up using these updated ones.

<EDIT> Updated pictures of the 'New' springbar adapter next to the 'old' style.

Bright blue band is on the new style, the black one is on the old style, notice on the new style how it's wider where the band fits via springbars. It's not as thick as the 'click' one but looks horrible.

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I placed the old style on top of the new style. you can see the bottom one (new style) sticks out slightly.

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mchlwise

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I just got some of the "new style" adapters from Arizona also.

The lugs are a little wider than the ones from Utica, but overall I think the adapter fits better in the watch and is made pretty well.

My Utica adapters were secure but would move around a bit when mounted in the watch. The Arizona adapters are tighter and don't move near as much.

I like them better.
 

Armski

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I just got some of the "new style" adapters from Arizona also.

The lugs are a little wider than the ones from Utica, but overall I think the adapter fits better in the watch and is made pretty well.

My Utica adapters were secure but would move around a bit when mounted in the watch. The Arizona adapters are tighter and don't move near as much.

I like them better.


I concur they are a better fit, no wiggling at all. Although i had a hard time taking them out, they are very very snug indeed. One would not lock at all. so i poked at the rear silver color spring on the back of the adapter a few times it popped into place, now it locks into place nicely. To be frank this 'new' style adapter only looks good on one of my straps, while the rest i use a mixture of 'old' style and apple style. The adapter also has a finish not as good as the 'old' style. I noticed the rear of the adapters where the locking plate is silver on the 'new' while the 'old' ones are gold colored.
 

soya

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I concur they are a better fit, no wiggling at all. Although i had a hard time taking them out, they are very very snug indeed. One would not lock at all. so i poked at the rear silver color spring on the back of the adapter a few times it popped into place, now it locks into place nicely. To be frank this 'new' style adapter only looks good on one of my straps, while the rest i use a mixture of 'old' style and apple style. The adapter also has a finish not as good as the 'old' style. I noticed the rear of the adapters where the locking plate is silver on the 'new' while the 'old' ones are gold colored.

Could you post pics of the new adapters connected to the actual watch?

Thank you.
 

soya

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Sure can! :)

'new' style adapters on the watch.
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'old' style adapter on my black strap

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Let me know if you need better pictures or a specific angle. :)

Arizona adapter actually doesn't look that bad. I think it would work great with SS Link bands. If they had the same polished texture as the SS Watch face then it would be even better. Do you have any SS bands?
 
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