⌚️🌎 Apple Watch Series 7 Pre-Orders/Order Status/Delivery Status Thread 2021 (Worldwide) 🌏⌚️

[deeddawg]

Yeah I think this is true however don't forget they do have the SS and the TI that are at different price points with no difference other than the case finish.
So people might be happy to pay a premium to get a SS or TI case over the AL just for a case upgrade (as they do now for the SS to TI). Not to mention cellular comes standard on those.

Sure, no difference... ... other than the Ti watches come with a two year warranty as well as an additional included sport-band with matching Ti nub that is specific to the Ti watches.

In fairness though, those differences weren't particularly called out in any of the marketing so they were easy to miss if you didn't dig into the details of the Ti models.

 

[deeddawg]

Not only that, but they also use Bluetooth to iPhone for data primarily I thought?

Even so, the benefit of ax in Apple Watch is that there will be less impact from those wireless client on the network overall. Efficiency benefits for the overall network, as opposed to a speed increase for the Watch, for those rare instances when you do need wifi.

How much data is the apple watch utilizing on the wifi network that there's any concern for impacts to or from the watch's data usage?

 

[ionasdf]

Maybe we have to accept the fact this was a S year of Apple Watch.

If you think about it, was update from S4 to S5 really that much more amazing?

People got too deep into rumors and were expecting moon from the sky. 🤷‍♂️

 

[deeddawg]

Why am I not seeing any Titanium or Steel models on the Apple website? Getting nervous here. Only aluminium?

Keep scrolling...

 

[deeddawg]

If you think about it, was update from S4 to S5 really that much more amazing?

People got too deep into rumors and were expecting moon from the sky. 🤷‍♂️

For some folks, yes. Always on Display turned out to be a significant plus in my usage. Not necessarily so for others, of course.

 

[TAZ911]

Was really hoping that the rumors about Glucose monitoring would be accurate before I replace my Garmin watch, but may still be tempted…

 

[Bazooka-joe]

So will Apple make an announcement when the watch is actually released and it just appears as available for order on the Apple store or perhaps they will announce it at the MacBook Pro keynote.
I have to say that at the keynote, Tim Cook didn’t look well. He hasn’t looked well for a couple of years

 

[deeddawg]

So will Apple make an announcement when the watch is actually released and it just appears as available for order on the Apple store or perhaps they will announce it at the MacBook Pro keynote.
I have to say that at the keynote, Tim Cook didn’t look well. He hasn’t looked well for a couple of years

Tough to say, I'd guess it'll just become available for ordering. Or they may make a later announcement.

Either way I'd imagine folks will be talking about it here when it happens.

 

[Howard2k]

How much data is the apple watch utilizing on the wifi network that there's any concern for impacts to or from the watch's data usage?

It's not about the data usage, it's about the time allocation of the spectrum. AX has specific optimizations that greatly benefit multi-device environments and help circumvent some of the natural deficiencies in a CSMA/CA system.

I'm not saying that it's a must have, I'm just saying that it's not as useless an upgrade as it might appear at first glance, not in all environments.

 

[batristain]

Tough to say, I'd guess it'll just become available for ordering. Or they may make a later announcement.

Either way I'd imagine folks will be talking about it here when it happens.

I just hope it isn't like the Magic keyboards where you had to get lucky and see they were now available....

 

[PaladinGuy]

I wonder if the faster charging will result in significantly faster battery deterioration.

 

[deeddawg]

It's not about the data usage, it's about the time allocation of the spectrum. AX has specific optimizations that greatly benefit multi-device environments and help circumvent some of the natural deficiencies in a CSMA/CA system.

I'm not saying that it's a must have, I'm just saying that it's not as useless an upgrade as it might appear at first glance, not in all environments.

Thanks but I'm still not seeing how an Apple Watch's utilization - whether data quantities or time slices - would have any noticeable impact on a typical network?

edit - I'm thinking home networks rather than corporate networks, where I wouldn't typically anticipate personally owned watches/phones to be connecting

 

[deeddawg]

I just hope it isn't like the Magic keyboards where you had to get lucky and see they were now available....

All the more reason to hang out on MR all day everyday!

 

[Howard2k]

Thanks but I'm still not seeing how an Apple Watch's utilization - whether data quantities or time slices - would have any noticeable impact on a typical network?

It's one of many devices, that's the issue. With the proliferation of IoT there are more and more devices sending more and more "pings" over the network at any given time, and the more efficient that data transfer is the better it is for all of the attached clients.

In a home network it's going to be inconsequential. But for apartments or (more realistically) public places with wifi it will have more impact.

I don't know how large an impact that will be. I'm still not sure it's much of a win, but that would be the rationale for AX in a Watch, not data transfer. At least, that's the one rationale I can think of, aside from the future availability and cost of AC chipsets.

Any time you had mixed environments it was not idea. 802.11g clients mixed with 802.11b was not great. 802.11g and 802.11n together is not great, etc.

 

[dorkimoe]

So will Apple make an announcement when the watch is actually released and it just appears as available for order on the Apple store or perhaps they will announce it at the MacBook Pro keynote.
I have to say that at the keynote, Tim Cook didn’t look well. He hasn’t looked well for a couple of years

Based on past experience, i expect it to just go up for pre order without notice. Airpods 1 did this, they just went up randomly.

 

[deeddawg]

It's one of many devices, that's the issue. With the proliferation of IoT there are more and more devices sending more and more "pings" over the network at any given time, and the more efficient that data transfer is the better it is for all of the attached clients.

In a home network it's going to be inconsequential. But for apartments or (more realistically) public places with wifi it will have more impact.

I don't know how large an impact that will be. I'm still not sure it's much of a win, but that would be the rationale for AX in a Watch, not data transfer. At least, that's the one rationale I can think of, aside from the future availability and cost of AC chipsets.

Any time you had mixed environments it was not idea. 802.11g clients mixed with 802.11b was not great. 802.11g and 802.11n together is not great, etc.

Oh, I know the theoretical part of all this and why it seems a good idea...

The question though is whether (and in what circumstances) there'd be any noticeable-to-the-end-users impact.

I'm thinking there'd be no noticeable difference with vs without AX, and thus was curious if someone had seen otherwise in real world usage.

 

[Howard2k]

Oh, I know the theoretical part of all this and why it seems a good idea...

The question though is whether (and in what circumstances) there'd be any noticeable-to-the-end-users impact.

I'm thinking there'd be no noticeable difference with vs without AX, and thus was curious if someone had seen otherwise in real world usage.

Agreed. In fact even the early MU-MIMO implementations were not as good as hoped, from what I saw. I haven't looked at much recently, maybe it's improved.

 

[The Game 161]

Annoyed no battery life improvements

 

[Metrosey]

Genuine question - what particular benefit would that provide in your usage of the watch?

A few of the benefits of Ax (not speed) such as the battery saving power state.

 

[ionasdf]

For some folks, yes. Always on Display turned out to be a significant plus in my usage. Not necessarily so for others, of course.

I agree with that, I would never buy a watch without AOD. But it still was just one update (did get the compass too but wasn't those just about it for S5?) to the old version and we are getting a totally new bigger screen this year too so even if it isn't exactly as useful of an update I still feel it is a similar case. Of course I never owned Watch back in those days so I wasn't there to experience the reveal of the brand new feature of AOD, just looking at it in retrospect.

 

[Bazooka-joe]

I just hope it isn't like the Magic keyboards where you had to get lucky and see they were now available....

Yeah it was only through MR that I found that the magic keyboards were finally available

 

[deeddawg]

I agree with that, I would never buy a watch without AOD. But it still was just one update (did get the compass too but wasn't those just about it for S5?) to the old version and we are getting a totally new bigger screen this year too so even if it isn't exactly as useful of an update I still feel it is a similar case. Of course I never owned Watch back in those days so I wasn't there to experience the reveal of the brand new feature of AOD, just looking at it in retrospect.

Yeah, AOD and compass, and it seems like the GPS tended to be noticeably more accurate than S4 when running. I may be misremembering that part, but it was around that time I quit wearing my Garmin FR235 for running and was happy with using my S5 watch. Maybe more internal storage for music too, again I may be misremembering. That was also when I switching from an aluminum S4 to SBSS

Either way, the AOD was a big deal for my usage though I can understand why it wouldn't be for others. Got nervous about the Ti model and swapped back to SBSS but then when the S6 came out with the brighter outdoor AOD I made the switch to Ti.

I think today an S4 (or perhaps S5) to S7 jump would be worthwhile for many folks. Maybe S6 to S7 at the non-cellular aluminum watch level since the effective cost is less than say a stainless or titanium S6 to S7 switch.

Be interesting to see the larger display in person sometime but I'm fairly sure it won't tempt me.

 

[batristain]

Yeah it was only through MR that I found that the magic keyboards were finally available

me too but I was late checking the site and had to wait an extra week for my keyboard (I know first world problems)....

 

[Bazooka-joe]

me too but I was late checking the site and had to wait an extra week for my keyboard (I know first world problems)....

I was lucky as they were instantly available in the UK

 

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Looks like internal docs have been leaked on the S7

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A newly surfaced internal Apple document reveals more details about the Apple Watch Series 7, including weights, connectivity, and internal...

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