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Do you plan on ordering the new Apple Watch Series 7 (2021) this September?


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Mr. Y

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9to5mac just posted a good article about AW Series 7. Check it out!!!

I was already hesitant to upgrade to S7 for lack of substantial addition of features other than screen size, and now I'm wondering if this is going to not only be delayed "indefinitely" (to November, December at least), but also faulty once the product is on the wrists of consumers. It is extraordinarily strange... Maybe I wait for S8...
 

_Spinn_

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https://9to5mac.com/2021/09/14/apple-watch-series-7-has-the-same-processor-as-last-years-apple-watch-series-6/

S7 has the same chip as the S6.

This article suggests that the flat edges were meant to happen but "something went south last minute and Apple had to improvise".
Yeah I just saw that article too. Something is really fishy about the S7.

Seems like more evidence that something drastic changed last minute. Maybe the leaks were true but Apple had to pivot to this backup plan? If that’s the case maybe next year’s model will look like what we were expecting this year.
 

Howard2k

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https://9to5mac.com/2021/09/14/apple-watch-series-7-has-the-same-processor-as-last-years-apple-watch-series-6/

S7 has the same chip as the S6.

This article suggests that the flat edges were meant to happen but "something went south last minute and Apple had to improvise".


i wonder if the S7 is going to be what the SE2 would have been, and the S8 will be what the S7 was intended to be, but with whatever further improvements are around at that time. In other words, delayed upgrade. The fact that no firm date has been announced might give them time for inventory.
 
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Howard2k

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Yeah I just saw that article too. Something is really fishy about the S7.

Seems like more evidence that something drastic changed last minute. Maybe the leaks were true but Apple had to pivot to this backup plan? If that’s the case maybe next year’s model will look like what we were expecting this year.

You beat me to it.
 
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slyronit

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It would be cool, but seriously doubt it.
No. Doesn't make sense. The ac/ax standards provide high throughput but at the cost of lower range and higher power consumption. Considering that the watches already have ****** battery lives and there's no need for Gigabit throughputs on watches, there's no need for it.
 

Howard2k

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No. Doesn't make sense. The ac/ax standards provide high throughput but at the cost of lower range and higher power consumption. Considering that the watches already have ****** battery lives and there's no need for Gigabit throughputs on watches, there's no need for it.

Not only that, but they also use Bluetooth to iPhone for data primarily I thought?

Even so, the benefit of ax in Apple Watch is that there will be less impact from those wireless client on the network overall. Efficiency benefits for the overall network, as opposed to a speed increase for the Watch, for those rare instances when you do need wifi.
 

Boardiesboi

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The leaker who was correct about the rounded design of S7 now says the flat edges design never existed. The plot thickens.
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Bazooka-joe

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9to5mac just posted a good article about AW Series 7. Check it out!!!

That’s a great article and yeah there is something definitely going on Apple this year. It was a lacklustre keynote with none of the usual Apple crew present and even Tim didn’t seem that enthusiastic. I think that the chip shortage may have impacted apple from any significant changes to the Phones and watches and maybe they are saving everything for next year. There is definitely something dodgy with these watches. I think that possibly they did have a square design but run into problems with it very early on and so because confidence wasn’t high that they could get the new design out in September, they built in a contingency plan and did a design tweak on the series 6 and held that back until they knew if they could sort out the problems with the square design. They discovered that they couldn’t so they immediately switched to production of the tweaked series 6 at the 11th hour and they are manufacturing and building up stocks now in readiness for release in a months time. So they now have another year to sort out the issues with the square design
 
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Davidnguyen_89

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That’s a great article and yeah there is something definitely going on Apple this year. It was a lacklustre keynote with none of the usual Apple crew present and even Tim didn’t seem that enthusiastic. I think that the chip shortage may have impacted apple from any significant changes to the Phones and watches and maybe they are saving everything for next year. There is definitely something dodgy with these watches. I think that possibly they did have a square design but run into problems with it very early on and so because confidence wasn’t high that they could get the new design out in September, they built in a contingency plan and did a design tweak on the series 6 and held that back until they knew if they could sort out the problems with the square design. They discovered that they couldn’t so they immediately switched to production of the tweaked series 6 at the 11th hour and they are manufacturing and building up stocks now in readiness for release in a months time. So they now have another year to sort out the issues with the square design
The whole Apple Watch presentation seemed very off and weird. They should have just skipped it this year. I don't know why they didn't just hold off until spring when the redesign might be ready. Or heck, just run 6 for another year.

Maybe the Flat-Edge design is true and Apple is saving it for 2022 year with a newly designed iPhone 14.

I wonder if sales for AW will tank since so many people won't be upgrading.
 

Davelfc

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I run a 5 and a six and always replace the two year old watch each year. I’d decided not to this year last night, the additional news about the cpu just reinforces that.
 
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_Spinn_

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It also seems odd that they are selling the new fast charger and bands for the S7 when it won't be out until "this Fall." I know the new accessories are compatible with older Apple Watches but it still seems strange.
 
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BillGates1969

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The problem with 'later this fall' is the upgrade cycle. Many on here upgrade every year, every two years etc. If you can't get hold of it until December or even January, you aren't going to upgrade in September 2022 or September 2023 if on a 1 year/2 year cycle.

I used to be onto annual upgrade, but consciously have let it go to every 2 years so this is my year to upgrade the S5. Depending when it comes out (and when I can get my hands on it) I go to 3 years just to get back in the September refresh cycle.
 

xDKP

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It does seem suspicious and made me scratch my head why they didn't show off the S7 in the Apple Store app or tell us the specs or attach the new watch bands to the S7 watch.

As far as we know, the S7 might not even ship until December!

If December is the case, it would have made more sense to show the AW off in a October event and keep the Series 6 as the newest. The awerage Joe doesn't follow the news cycle like we do, and would have kept buying the Series 6, but after the news outlets yesterday pushed the info and pictures, they know it coming.

So fingers crossed for October at least
 

tomtad

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Yeah I just saw that article too. Something is really fishy about the S7.

Seems like more evidence that something drastic changed last minute. Maybe the leaks were true but Apple had to pivot to this backup plan? If that’s the case maybe next year’s model will look like what we were expecting this year.
Personally I think the square edge redesign rumours were bollocks and have been since Prosser thought ah the iPad got square edges, the iPhones got square edges, therefore the Watch will get square edges. Big scoop.

This is a wearable device, something you don't hold like an iPhone, and the rounded edges work well ergonomically on your wrist as well as hiding the width of the watch. Notice how they made a point about how the screen wraps around the corners, this design is staying.

Also if the square edges were coming what would be the manufacturing issue? They've had to redesign the chassis anyway for the larger screen and if they wanted square edges they would have done them.

No chip upgrade isn't a surprise this watch got a larger screen as it's feature. Expect a faster chip next year alongside maybe a new health sensor. Oh and no square edges!
 
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thr33stones

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Personally I think the square edge redesign rumours were bollocks and have been since Prosser thought ah the iPad got square edges, the iPhones got square edges, therefore the Watch will get square edges. Big scoop.

This is a wearable device, something you don't hold like an iPhone, and the rounded edges work well ergonomically on your wrist as well as hiding the width of the watch. Notice how they made a point about how the screen wraps around the corners, this design is staying.

Also if the square edges were coming what would be the manufacturing issue? They've had to redesign the chassis anyway for the larger screen and if they wanted square edges they would have done them.

No chip upgrade isn't a surprise this watch got a larger screen as it's feature. Expect a faster chip next year alongside maybe a new health sensor. Oh and no square edges!
Exactly what I was thinking re: wearables, this this is attached to you and moves on your arm, curves and the perception of comfort are very important (I remember an article about the haptic feedback development of the watch taking ages to make it more organic like a tap rather that the perception of a vibration) rather than a harshness of a edge.

But in general I think it a combination of everything mentioned here that made this underwhelming
  1. **** tonne of leaks - whether they are right or wrong the blunting of the element of surprise and innovation
  2. Global pandemic - Firstly, The shortage of chips, supply etc. but secondly the lack of in person collaboration on a wearable device that would be so important due to the size of the components etc and thirdly, the lack of adding of more fitness features due to the second point
  3. They are so far ahead of the rest of the pack they can ship a few incremental BS upgrades without falling behind, but the pressure is on in my mind to deliver a big update next year

Im on a S3 and was seriously looking forward to this one but I think I am going to try a Whoop for a year as the performance metrics are very appealing and waiting out until next year until they develop more fitness / health metrics

S4 - New Chip, Screen & ECG
S5 - Always On Screen
S6 - SPo2, new chip, altimeter

these are small good incremental changes every year - I think they need to accelerate bit
 

thr33stones

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Personally I think the square edge redesign rumours were bollocks and have been since Prosser thought ah the iPad got square edges, the iPhones got square edges, therefore the Watch will get square edges. Big scoop.

This is a wearable device, something you don't hold like an iPhone, and the rounded edges work well ergonomically on your wrist as well as hiding the width of the watch. Notice how they made a point about how the screen wraps around the corners, this design is staying.

Also if the square edges were coming what would be the manufacturing issue? They've had to redesign the chassis anyway for the larger screen and if they wanted square edges they would have done them.

No chip upgrade isn't a surprise this watch got a larger screen as it's feature. Expect a faster chip next year alongside maybe a new health sensor. Oh and no square edges!
Exactly what I was thinking re: wearables, this this is attached to you and moves on your arm, curves and the perception of comfort are very important (I remember an article about the haptic feedback development of the watch taking ages to make it more organic like a tap rather that the perception of a vibration) rather than a harshness of a edge.

But in general I think it a combination of everything mentioned here that made this underwhelming
  1. **** tonne of leaks - whether they are right or wrong the blunting of the element of surprise and innovation
  2. Global pandemic - Firstly, The shortage of chips, supply etc. but secondly the lack of in person collaboration on a wearable device that would be so important due to the size of the components etc and thirdly, the lack of adding of more fitness features due to the second point
  3. They are so far ahead of the rest of the pack they can ship a few incremental BS upgrades without falling behind, but the pressure is on in my mind to deliver a big update next year

Im on a S3 and was seriously looking forward to this one but I think I am going to try a Whoop for a year as the performance metrics are very appealing and waiting out until next year until they develop more fitness / health metrics

S4 - New Chip, Screen & ECG
S5 - Always On Screen
S6 - SPo2, new chip, altimeter
 

ionasdf

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Also if the square edges were coming what would be the manufacturing issue? They've had to redesign the chassis anyway for the larger screen and if they wanted square edges they would have done them.
This a million times. All these "conspiracy theorists" seem to miss the fact that it has totally new frame, buttons and screen, all of which are not something Apple can just whip together and get certified in a day as an improvisation.
 
This a million times. All these "conspiracy theorists" seem to miss the fact that it has totally new frame, buttons and screen, all of which are not something Apple can just whip together and get certified in a day as an improvisation.
Maybe we have to accept the fact this was a S year of Apple Watch.
 

deeddawg

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Yeah, I’ve seen this perspective from a few comments. I’ve never owned an Apple Watch, but I’d like to buy the Series 7 SB Titanium though

For whatever reason the online photos make them look far more similar than they look in person.
 
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