Arctic Fox web browser for 10.6 (32 & 64-bit)

[Giuliano C]

I've tried a lot of add-ons on Firefox 48.0.2 and work around 10% of them. LOL. Artic For it's worst. So, Which Add-ons will work? Practically no one. I must use it to work some Add-ons.

I hope you'll work also to raise compatibility on Addons. I'll try to see if will work some old version, but I doubt it...

 

[wicknix]

Web extenions are not supported. You need to use the classic xul add-ons. Everything on addons.palemoon.org works. 80% from the classic add-ons archive works. You can't use anything meant for new Firefox. There are 100's of add-ons available.

Cheers

 

[RobJos]

A quick OPIE list of those extensions which I'm using in AF and that have preferences settings (lots of them don't):

AutoplayToggleNon-Restartless{1.0.1}
ClassicPasswordEditor{1.1.2}
CuteButtons{0.5.8}
Decentraleyes{1.4.2}
FEBE{10.3}
FlashGot{1.5.6.9.1-signed}
FormHistoryControl{1.4.0.6}
GreasemonkeyforPaleMoon{3.31.4}
Idontcareaboutcookies{3.1.3}
NewScrollbarsakaNoiaScrollbars{1.2.8}
NoSquint{2.2.2}
OPIE2{10.0}
ResponsiveBookmarksToolbar{2.0.1}
Save-To-Read{0.4.2.1-signed.1-signed}
TabMixPlus{0.5.8.1}
UserAgentSwitcher{0.7.3.1-signed.1-signed}

Some of these you can only get by installing the Classic Add-ons Archive and its database. GreaseMonkey allows you to install scripts like ViewTube, WhoColor and many others, MoonTester Tool allows for installing addons like HTTPS Everywhere, The Camelizer etc.

Really, you can't complain!

 

[z970]

No worries. The html5 test site means nothing really. Palemoon and arctic fox purposely disabled or removed code for things such as webrtc, which drastically affect the score. We both believe in being more secure rather than get a better score but leak your ip address etc.

Now that's interesting. That's probably why TenFourFox + foxPEP gets a lower HTML5 score than just TenFourFox, as foxPEP disables WebRTC as well.

EDIT: Apparently, TenFourFox already ships with WebRTC disabled. Maybe they're still related...

 

[Giuliano C]

From Moon Test tool say this:

Warning! Moon Tester Tool is intended for advanced users and for test purposes only!

Installation of improper extensions or themes may break the browser and lead to the damage or loss of data. You can't expect or ask for any support of extensions and themes installed via Moon Tester Tool neither from their authors, nor from developers of the browser.

If you find the add-on or theme that runs well, you have to contact author and ask him to provide compatibility with Pale Moon officially.

Well, Has the sense to risk and lose everything..? I not have understood what to do this add-on. Does it allow using more add-ons?

Edit: I've tried 3 addons and all failed. Neither https everywhere works ahaha.

 

[wicknix]

ALL add-ons from addons.palemoon.org work. There is a fork of https everywhere called https always on there. I'm not sure what you're doing wrong, but over 1,000 classic add-ons, or forks of popular addons work on AF.

Cheers

 

[Giuliano C]

I believe that you stay telling only on addons on Palemoon. I need Firefox addons.

If I should use only Palemoon Addons, probably it's better that I stop to check. I'll never have support on that I require work. On the html5 test, AF is the worst web browser that I've (except safari probably).

I've needs Pocket, Grammarly and probably other addons. Addons for increase compatibility not have worked on Firefox extensions.

If we can't register on Canva, how we may join? LOL. AP it's the only browser that loads Canva, but not works.

Google Analytics cut Infos. I can't move down from the page.

 

[RobJos]

@Giuliano C: maybe it wasn't clear, but I tried to tell you that you can install HTTPS Everywhere (and The Camelizer) using the Moon Tester Tool. That's the two I have installed here, and I'm still alive. As for Firefox extensions, please make the effort to install the Classic Add-ons Archive, and you'll find, quote “93,598 versions of 19,450 Firefox add-ons created by 14,274 developers over the past 15 years using XUL/XPCOM technology before Mozilla decided to ruin the classic extensions ecosystem and go exclusively to WebExtensions.”

 

[wicknix]

Again, the html5 test site is a joke, and has no merit in this case. Of course chrome and Firefox 7x score high. They are nothing but major security holes waiting to be exposed. Yes, they work on every website because of this, but they leak all your info, and since we are on a majorly outdated OS (10.6), security is the main focus over compatibility. If you want a better more capable browser install 10.7.5 Lion or Linux. Also Firefox add-ons work on AF too. Not all, but most. Nothing from Firefox 's add-ons website will work. Those are all web extensions now. You need the CAA, seamonkey or palemoon add-ons.

A side note, pocket will never be part of AF. Worst idea ever, with major flaws.

Good luck.

 

[z970]

A side note, pocket will never be part of AF. Worst idea ever, with major flaws.

Refresh me, what was wrong with Pocket? They are now a part of Mozilla and are overseen by them, no longer some third-party.

Is the idea not the same as Safari's Reading List?

 

[wicknix]

Here's the basics. Most of it has been patched now, but that's also on more current versions of FF. AF and TFF have a much older code base. It's one of the reasons why I ripped pocket out of IceWeasel-PPC.

Holes found in Pocket Firefox add-on

Patched server holes could making for painful reading

www.theregister.co.uk

Edit: and read the comments also.

Cheers

 

[z970]

Very interesting.

Perhaps foxPEP 1.8.2 ought to disable it...

Are there any points against it relevant to current FF?

 

[wicknix]

Not sure. I wouldn't trust it, but that's just me.

 

[RobJos]

Here's the basics. Most of it has been patched now, but that's also on more current versions of FF. AF and TFF have a much older code base. It's one of the reasons why I ripped pocket out of IceWeasel-PPC.

Holes found in Pocket Firefox add-on

Patched server holes could making for painful reading

www.theregister.co.uk

Edit: and read the comments also.

Very interesting indeed — I had never paid attention to this feature, but I found in Firefox 49, which I still launch very occasionally, mostly for testing purposes, that all about:config commands discussed in the article's comments were set "wrong". Set them “right”, good, thanks.

Detail: the command <browser.pocket.userLocaleList> should be read <browser.pocket.useLocaleList>

Now, how come this browser.pocket thing is absent in Firefox 68 for Linux, but is there in Firefox 74 in a late MacOS?

And: <uninitiated> what are IceWeasel-PPC and foxPEP 1.8.2 </uninitiated> ?

 

[z970]

And: <uninitiated> what are IceWeasel-PPC and foxPEP 1.8.2 </uninitiated> ?

A stripped, lighterweight, and faster TenFourFox...

So this finally happened. Sort of...

While in Tiger messing with AF4PPC, i took a break and did this. Debian killed off IceWeasel branding back in 2017. Well now it's back in the form of TFF FPR13 with IW branding. However i disabled all unneeded junk (webrtc, safe browsing, maintenance service, webapp runtime, pocket, shumway...

forums.macrumors.com

...And a universal Firefox patch script that does all the work of advanced tweaking and optimization for you - on any machine, OS, or Firefox-like browser it's thrown at. Revision 1.8.2 is the current development version.

foxPEP and TenFourFoxPEP - For A Faster Firefox / TenFourFox

The Firefox Partitioned Engine Patch, officially abbreviated as foxPEP, is a finely tuned all-in-one preferences patch designed exclusively for Firefox-based browsers that automatically applies a number of advanced under-the-hood configurations to achieve a superior Web browsing experience on...

forums.macrumors.com

 

[RobJos]

A stripped, lighterweight, and faster TenFourFox...

So this finally happened. Sort of...

While in Tiger messing with AF4PPC, i took a break and did this. Debian killed off IceWeasel branding back in 2017. Well now it's back in the form of TFF FPR13 with IW branding. However i disabled all unneeded junk (webrtc, safe browsing, maintenance service, webapp runtime, pocket, shumway...

forums.macrumors.com

...And a universal Firefox patch script that does all the work of advanced tweaking and optimization for you - on any machine, OS, or Firefox-like browser it's thrown at. Revision 1.8.2 is the current development version.

foxPEP and TenFourFoxPEP - For A Faster Firefox / TenFourFox

The Firefox Partitioned Engine Patch, officially abbreviated as foxPEP, is a finely tuned all-in-one preferences patch designed exclusively for Firefox-based browsers that automatically applies a number of advanced under-the-hood configurations to achieve a superior Web browsing experience on...

forums.macrumors.com

Ah, capito. Probably not for me, but thanks.

 

[RobJos]

Back from the Crashing Front

WARNING: the 'heap-allocated' memory reporter does not work for this platform and/or configuration. This means that 'heap-unclassified' is not shown and the 'explicit' tree shows less memory than it should

I'm still having AF crash about once in the course of a 12-hour day — only very occasionally while browsing — mostly when quitting the program after its CPU use has reached 100% and beyond and won't come back down to a normal 0.x-20% anymore. Luckily the steps I've taken (see earlier post: protect Pin Tabs, lock the sessionstore.js file in the Profile) have so far allowed me to relaunch it right away without any further damage.

While Amazon Germany definitely seems to be a guilty party here (so I close its tab right away after using it instead of leaving it open as with the other Amazon platforms), there seems to be other sites that also cause this behaviour. But because these are not “regulars” in my browsing, and because it's impossible to constantly keep an eye on the Activity Monitor for every tab that gets opened, I haven't been able to relate the issue to any one in particular.

The scenario is pretty much the same every time: even after all non-pin tabs are closed, CPU use remains at the same level (yesterday, even around 400%). After I quit AF CPU use surges briefly by 100-150%, then returns to the original excessive value and stays there for (as today) about 75 secs, after which AF crashes. During that period it has occasionally given the pizza wheel and a “(not responding)” in the Activity Monitor.

I thought that Freeing memory at about:memory after closing tabs (but before quitting) might help. It didn't, but that's when I got the message reported above, in red. Hopefully for the enlightenment of our friendly devs.

 

[vloweer]

I want to Facebook Call with Microphone and Camera and I can't find how to allow the permission.

It says - You have to allow Microphona and Camera

And I'm searching all over the settings, preferences and internet
And there is simply no permission for it on Acrctic Fox!

Could someone please help me?

 

[Raging Dufus]

Hi vloweer, welcome to the forums.

Since Arctic Fox is based on Pale Moon, this Pale Moon forum discussion seems to suggest that your mic and camera aren't available in Arctic Fox.

Depending on what you're trying to do and whether your computer will support it, you might try a different browser. Generally, FireFox and Chrome are your best bets for video conferencing, if you have an Intel Mac. On PowerPC, I'm not sure what your options are - TenFourFox maybe, or Leopard Webkit if you're running Leopard, but I don't know if either of those will support videoconferencing.

Some more information about the computer you're using and what exactly you're trying to accomplish would be useful in determining how best to help.

EDIT: Forgive me, I see you mentioned FaceBook calling. So we know what you want to do. We just need more info about your computer.

 

[RobJos]

Matter of fact, I never have any use for the camera — except one single time last year, as an alternative to a selfie in connection with the registration process on some website. I couldn't get it to interact with AF, nor with any other browser (the last versions that will run on this 10.6.8 machine). Gave up and borrowed a machine with Sierra and Firefox (or maybe Waterfox), where things went like a charm. Which seems to indicate that it's OS as much as it is browser-related.

 

[wicknix]

Thanks guys. Couldn't have answered it better myself.
Cheers

 

[Raging Dufus]

@wicknix I'm curious, did PM developers do that purposely (disabling video/audio inputs) to enhance user privacy, or was it because of some incompatibility with the underlying video/audio technologies?

 

[wicknix]

Probably both honestly. But they do pride themselves on security (and so do we with AF), so I'd think that was the main reason. The original FF code was full of security flaws, and quite frankly current FF still is.

Cheers

 

[Raging Dufus]

Probably both honestly. But they do pride themselves on security (and so do we with AF), so I'd think that was the main reason. The original FF code was full of security flaws, and quite frankly current FF still is.

Cheers

Thanks, I'd hoped it was at least partly intentional. I do like the PM/AF emphasis on privacy and security.

 

[wicknix]

That's kind of why i think they offer 2 browsers. PM (AF) for security and customization and Basilisk (interweb) for more traditional FF like experience with most the bells and whistles.

Cheers