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GDF

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Still no movement on mine. AT&T really screwed this rollout. Nothing to do with entitlement, but when I order the phones at opening and it does not deliver when it is supposed, that is horrible customer service or company. Never again will order from them.

I look forward to getting the new iPhone on opening day, as it is like Christmas. AT&T is a joke and if my work did not require me to use them would switch.
 

ecthomp

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Mar 11, 2011
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I get people are upset about their phones not arriving, but holy cow the amount of Karens in this thread whiny about call center or chat employees is shocking.
Guys calm down, it’s a phone. You will get it in a few days. No amount of harassing a min wage call center person will change that. You are likely buying a phone they can’t afford.

this entire thread belongs in r/entitledcustomers
As someone who actually benefitted from AT&Ts screwed up preorder process, I still find it is understandable that people are upset. They aren’t upset just because they didn’t get their phone, but because people who ordered the exact same model after them got their phones first.

AT&T stated their orders are filled on a first come, first serve basis and this did not happen. I ordered my phone at 4:20 pm on preorder day and got my phone friday. Someone a couple of posts up ordered the same exact color and storage right after 8 am, and they are just now getting a shipping notice. That is terrible customer service. It isn’t entitled to think a company should follow their stated policy and to be upset when they don’t live up to their promise.
 

DougN1

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Mar 13, 2012
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Exactly. AT&T states orders are first come, first serve, which is why people get up early to be on right when pre-order starts so that they get a phone on launch day. Kinda the whole point. And since AT&T knows a week before launch date how many phones of what type they need, it shouldn't be this much of a mess to get them delivered to customers.

When phones are delivered to pre-order customers randomly without regard to when they ordered, its understandable that people are upset and complain.
 

Super Big Mac

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Oct 25, 2020
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No movement on 5 iPhone pros ordered at 9:41 am on 10/16. Anyone who ordered earlier seen movement? 10/26 is the initial delivery date. Sounds like a Apple supply chain and fulfillment issue rather than att. I think all folks Vz, T-Mobile are in the same boat. Priority seems to be customers who bought directly from Apple.
 
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Detn

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Oct 18, 2020
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If you cancel an online AT&T order does the upgrade eligibility go back onto account right away?
Not for me. I did this because I wanted to buy at an Apple store instead of waiting. My upgrade status didn’t update after 24 hours. Then had to get an ATT rep to actually make me eligible which happens instantly. But the iPhone at the Apple store sold out now ?
 

ecthomp

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Mar 11, 2011
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No movement on 5 iPhone pros ordered at 9:41 am on 10/16. Anyone who ordered earlier seen movement? 10/26 is the initial delivery date. Sounds like a Apple supply chain and fulfillment issue rather than att. I think all folks Vz, T-Mobile are in the same boat. Priority seems to be customers who bought directly from Apple.
While Apple might have more stock, it doesn’t excuse how AT&T (and possibly other carriers) handled the stock they did have. The people in this thread all ordered from AT&T so we are comparing times to other people who ordered from them. It isn’t hard to fill orders in the order you receive them.

I’ve gotten up at 3 am before to preorder an iPhone. I would have been super annoyed if someone got up at 10 am and then got a phone on launch day when I didn’t. It is like standing in line and people behind you being served first when you’ve been waiting longer. That isn’t how lines work.

Also, I think some people have to order through the premier site so they can’t order from Apple. AT&T handled this badly, and they should rightly be flamed for it.
 

Steviejobz

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Jun 19, 2010
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Unless you have to for work, there's no reason to keep an order pending on att.com. Pretty much every store has stock. Cancel and go pick up in store. I realize this may vary by geography but in here in LA, every store has pick up over the next few days, some even have today.
 
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venom600

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Unless you have to for work, there's no reason to keep an order pending on att.com. Pretty much every store has stock. Cancel and go pick up in store. I realize this may vary by geography but in here in LA, every store has pick up over the next few days, some even have today.

No, they don't. I just checked and no PB iPhone Pros are available most of LA. I tried a bunch of zip codes around LA county and only one or two stores has stock or anticipates stock of any color.
 

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AlextheApple

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May 18, 2010
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Ordered 7:08am. Still no movement on my Pacific Blue 128. Called ATT Friday to cancel the order as I could pick up at Apple Saturday 2 hours away. Rep said that a store in my city had some Pacific Blue 128s in stock and just to go over there and tell the rep. Great, I go to the store 10 min later.... store says no stores in town received any Pros that the rep must have seen they have regular 12s in stock.
So I go back home to check apple again...pros sold out in the store 2 hours away and every other one reasonably close by. So now I’m stuck waiting on my “preorder”...
 
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firecop702

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I don't think they'll even meet the 30th/2nd ship by dates they've given out for even those of us who ordered within the first 30 minutes to 1 hour of pre-order going live. They seem to have sent so many devices to people who ordered hours and days later, even identical configurations that many of those who ordered early are probably going to be left hanging for weeks.
 

mikemj23

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Jul 27, 2010
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If you cancel an online AT&T order does the upgrade eligibility go back onto account right away?

FWIW I used AT&T chat to cancel mine and the upgrade eligibility reset right away even though the chat agent said it would take 24 hours.
 

Ryan_W

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Oct 20, 2020
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I don’t get it. They even clearly time stamp each order. How hard can it be to send orders first come first serve?
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If I had to guess, once they realized they couldn't fulfill the pre-orders properly, they went with some alternative approach they thought would make sense. But it's not at all clear what that approach is, because none of it appears sensible. Which is what gets me. I tend to pointlessly think about these things when they happen and this one's pretty baffling. Like, of the obvious possibilities I can imagine:

  • Of course, they clearly didn't do first come, first served. Which should've been the move because it might suck for folks if all stock was gone very early, but it's objectively fair. And would give customers the forewarning to tyr and preorder from Apple or Best Buy if they really wanted launch day.
  • It looks like we have folks getting their phones at varying preorder times in large cities where AT&T can and will do personal delivery, so focusing on shipping to those areas when there is-apparently-stock in many of those stores (even if not a lot of stock) doesn't make much sense. At the same time, it appears rural areas haven't been particularly frozen out or targeted (someone correct me if that seems wrong), so overall it seems there's not a population-related approach at work. Just randomness.
  • It doesn't look like they favored geography either. They didn't focus on preorders within x proximity of their distribution centers or I'd suspect I would have mine as Lexington is an easy three hour trip from Plainfield IN versus some other options where folks receiving phones out Plainfield did receive theirs. It's a bit subjective, of course, but I'd say I'd be in the bubble, along with many Ohio cities, since items have shipped late the day before from there multiple times with on-time delivery the next day. But that doesn't appear to be the case.
  • It doesn't seem, from what I've seen on this thread, that they particularly favored new over long-term customers. Which would be a reasonable approach. It does appear the Premier customers were fairly frozen out, which makes sense as it sounds like they have no alternatives without taking on costs they'd probably rather not. Ignoring new customers like me would make sense, because if you lose my business yeah, you lost business, but at least you didn't lose business you already account for. If you're having to make tough decisions, you'd make that one. But they didn't.
  • Size of orders or accounts doesn't seem to factor, either. People who ordered multiples have seen movement on one Pro but not the other, both, or neither. I could see wanting to focus on some family order of three or four Pros, but that doesn't appear to have been the move, either.
It seems either just about completely random or like some kind of largely secret approach. I'd wonder if it's based on some other perception of how important a person's business is-maybe going off the credit checks and estimated incomes to favor purchasers who are most likely to spend their money with them. It doesn't really look that way, but that's a hard one to try and guess anyway. But at the same time, it seems some areas are very frozen out. Lexington definitely doesn't have nearly the stock even Louisville or Cincinnati does, and that's not just the AT&T stores, but everywhere. Other folks seem to have run into similar situations while people in other locations report what sound almost like surpluses of stock.

And I think this is what gets me about it. I ordered early-ish (16th @ 1205), but arguably I could even have been outside the window to get launch day delivery by then. Which would be fine, except we all know of people who ordered mid-week who got it Friday. I didn't care so terribly much about getting it launch day until the shipping trends started to indicate that might happen based on how orders were moving for others. But then it became clear that whatever process is at work here, it's decidedly opaque and unfair. I'm still not all that upset I'm only getting it sometime in the window they initially stated (maybe. unless they ****ed up more than we realize yet), but as a general principle and because others who arguably deserved it on launch day even more got shafted, I'm pretty damn pissed off about it. This is no way to run ****, and while it's not the front line customer services folks' fault (because it's the disjointed, piecemeal ****** Borg assimilation strategy they've pursued that is), those are the people management have elected to basically throw under the bus with this system of delivering on their preorders. Let's all be nice to them when we need to interact, yeah, but at the same time it's not wrong to be upset about it and express that appropriately so that it goes up the chain and the company gets that message. That and losing business are the only way they learn.
 

Steviejobz

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Jun 19, 2010
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No, they don't. I just checked and no PB iPhone Pros are available most of LA. I tried a bunch of zip codes around LA county and only one or two stores has stock or anticipates stock of any color.

This morning every model was available at Century City, Santa Monica and Manhattan Beach. There's some 128GB tomorrow if you're closer to Pasadena but Century City has stock. Basically check in the morning and reserve for next day. This release is not in high demand since 5G speeds are pathetic.
 

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AlextheApple

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May 18, 2010
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Update. Just got an email that my order shipped from Fort Worth. Says it’ll be here Tuesday.
I’m about 3 hours from FW. Never using ATT preorder again but I’m glad it finally shipped.
 
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jems2kh

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Oct 25, 2020
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Still waiting for the status to change from "In Progress" on AT&T's website. Nothing on Fedex.
Order date: 10/16/2020 at 7:49:07 a.m. ET
iPhone 12 Pro Pacific Blue 128gb... frustrating...

My second order (Order date: 10/16/2020 at 7:53:01 a.m. ET) for iPhone 12 Pro Graphite 128gb was delivered on Friday.
 
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