Wow, McDonalds sucks,lol. I can't remember the last time I had a burger from there. I like the McMuffuns and pretty much all I have from there on occasion. There is always other options.
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Can Apple close the gap to the S6's hardware?
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Wow, McDonalds sucks,lol. I can't remember the last time I had a burger from there. I like the McMuffuns and pretty much all I have from there on occasion. There is always other options.
S6 Active leaks are showing up. If it is true, it'll be as predicted. Samsung has the coverage to address multiple markets and needs, unlike Apple.
I stand by that their decision to sacrifice those few features for the redesigned S6 and Edge is a good one.
PS. Wendy's all the way.
I stand by that their decision to sacrifice those few features for the redesigned S6 and Edge is a good one.
PS. Wendy's all the way.
Got it. Basically it was a critical feature until Samsung said it wasn't.
As far as Apple covering multiple markets, they already have it covered.
As far as Apple covering multiple markets, they already have it covered.
You do know that samsung changed the memory sub system standard in the gs6 right? It's using a sata type like a serial ata ssd drive in a computer on there phones and moved away from the standard the micro SD Cards use.
It's like trying to plug an old ide drive in a sata port and is not using the same architecture
So until you have ssd micro SD cards then there is no way to plug them into it's new Ufs bus without adding the old memory controller and bottle necking the whole memory system
Genuine question, where did Samsung say waterproofing was a critical feature? They sure advertised the heck out of it, but where did they say "this is critical to a smartphone"?
Even if they did, and again, are you daft? Did you ignore my post? The lost of these features divided a lot of people. Were you living under a rock when news came out of it? Show me a single review where the reviewer didn't make note that the redesign and new build materials came at the cost of those features. Everyone noted it and had things to say about it and from there made the decision whether it was important or not. It wasn't like every Samsung fan said, "oh, poof. No more waterproofing. We don't need it anymore!" Many people responded negatively to the lost of these features. It was hugely divisive. But as I said before, Samsung read the market and their sales. Turns out the waterproofing, etc. didn't drive sales. So the lost those features and instead added what people and journalists were clamoring for: better design and premium build materials.
You know what I think it is? I think people like you dislike the fact that Apple finally has some serious competition, which should be regarded as a good thing, and have nothing much to do other than point out what little you can nitpick about the S6 to knock it down. So because the S6 lost waterproofing and user removable battery and micro SD, those are the easiest things to pick on. How many more times are you going to pretend like people just ignored these lost features?
Again, at least Samsung (and other OEMs) offer waterproof options.
And why do you ignore this question: Where is the waterproof iOS-running smartphone?
I said this in a post earlier that i7guy mostly ignored:
Samsung is not without its problems, but trading in a few niche features that didn't drive sales anyway for industry-demanding better design and materials is not one of them. How many times have we read from people in the industry begging for Samsung to use better materials and come up with a better design? How many times have they been knocked severely for those shortcomings?
And how many times have Apple fans said how utterly important design and quality build materials are to them? I have no doubt i7guy may have said as much himself or at the very least he believes so, too. So, where is the praise for Samsung for finally focusing on design and premium quality materials? Where? What happened to the importance of design ethos and wanting a premium feeling device in the hand when picked up?
No, instead, we get people like i7guy and others of similar ilk only wanting to knock Samsung for losing a few features that wasn't helping them sale devices anyway; and worse, pretending nobody noticed or cared, as if there was no backlash whatsoever. Again, show me one review that didn't make note or bring attention to the fact that the better design comes at a price.
Samsung is not without its problems, but streamlining their flagship, and putting the more niche hardware features on other lines (ala the Active) is not one of them.
i7guy and Jrswizzle and the likes are the absolutely most abhorrent type of Apple fans. And what's even worse is, they think they're being loyal.
/rant.
Samsung is not without its problems, but trading in a few niche features that didn't drive sales anyway for industry-demanding better design and materials is not one of them. How many times have we read from people in the industry begging for Samsung to use better materials and come up with a better design? How many times have they been knocked severely for those shortcomings?
And how many times have Apple fans said how utterly important design and quality build materials are to them? I have no doubt i7guy may have said as much himself or at the very least he believes so, too. So, where is the praise for Samsung for finally focusing on design and premium quality materials? Where? What happened to the importance of design ethos and wanting a premium feeling device in the hand when picked up?
No, instead, we get people like i7guy and others of similar ilk only wanting to knock Samsung for losing a few features that wasn't helping them sale devices anyway; and worse, pretending nobody noticed or cared, as if there was no backlash whatsoever. Again, show me one review that didn't make note or bring attention to the fact that the better design comes at a price.
Samsung is not without its problems, but streamlining their flagship, and putting the more niche hardware features on other lines (ala the Active) is not one of them.
i7guy and Jrswizzle and the likes are the absolutely most abhorrent type of Apple fans. And what's even worse is, they think they're being loyal.
/rant.
Seriously? And theirs Apple making the base model 16GB... oh but it's ok spend over £600 and get 64GB, the next model up! Price gouging at it's best, and one of the reasons I look at an iPhone and think twice about buying one sim free.
If Samsumg goes back to a removable back and SDmicro slot, id be fine with that. Id actually prefer it so i dont have to get a 64 GB phone. I actually prefer the plastic backs. Still a solid device imo.
I said this in a post earlier that i7guy mostly ignored:
Samsung is not without its problems, but trading in a few niche features that didn't drive sales anyway for industry-demanding better design and materials is not one of them. How many times have we read from people in the industry begging for Samsung to use better materials and come up with a better design? How many times have they been knocked severely for those shortcomings?
And how many times have Apple fans said how utterly important design and quality build materials are to them? I have no doubt i7guy may have said as much himself or at the very least he believes so, too. So, where is the praise for Samsung for finally focusing on design and premium quality materials? Where? What happened to the importance of design ethos and wanting a premium feeling device in the hand when picked up?
No, instead, we get people like i7guy and others of similar ilk only wanting to knock Samsung for losing a few features that wasn't helping them sale devices anyway; and worse, pretending nobody noticed or cared, as if there was no backlash whatsoever. Again, show me one review that didn't make note or bring attention to the fact that the better design comes at a price.
Samsung is not without its problems, but streamlining their flagship, and putting the more niche hardware features on other lines (ala the Active) is not one of them.
i7guy and Jrswizzle and the likes are the absolutely most abhorrent type of Apple fans. And what's even worse is, they think they're being loyal.
/rant.
It's understandable you don't see the other side of this and consider others point of view.
From what I've seen the S6 is a very nice phone, just not for me. The point all along is that hardware has to be designed to enhance the user experience, which I said a few posts up. Putting in 10 cores does not make for a better mobile device.
Apple seems to closely align all the components on each release of the iphone. Maybe Samsung is finally taking a page or two from apples book.
I do agree IOS could be improved a bit; as in all things software related. However, it's not lacking anything that is preventing me from enjoying my phone on a personal level and using my phone as a business device. And you never know, apple may just add an SD card, waterproofing, an IR blaster and a removable battery to it's lineup in the near future; taking a page from Samsungs book. Apple is not a stupid company, they do get what their customers want and strive to produce a product that fulfills most peoples expectation, which is why they are that popular.
I look forward to the 6s and to see what IOS 9 brings. Only a few months and I'll see if I want to trade up; if the upgrade is worth it to me.
As for the remainder of the post: tl;dr.
Asking if Apple can close the gap on Samsung is like asking if Dell can close the gap on Intel.
Apple relies more on Samsung than Dell relies on Intel since there's dependency not only on SoC and flash storage but also the display and DRAM so the simple answer is 'no'. There should really be a Samsung Inside sticker affixed to every Apple product.
Apple relies more on Samsung than Dell relies on Intel since there's dependency not only on SoC and flash storage but also the display and DRAM so the simple answer is 'no'. There should really be a Samsung Inside sticker affixed to every Apple product.
I got an excellent deal though as my 64gb iPhone 6 was priced the same as the previous 32gb iPhone 5 that I owned. It might be annoying they kept the 16gb as the base model but it highlights the need for iCloud storage or encourages you to spend an extra 80 quid to triple the internal storage option.
Those of us who had 32gb before had more of an incentive to upgrade, but they can't please everybody. Samsung chose a different approach and it also works.
You can't go wrong with either of these devices in all honestly despite the nit picking we see here.
So you don't have a source of Samsung saying waterproofing is "critical" to a smartphone? That's what I suspected. Care to retract your fallacious, unfair, unfounded, and inciteful statement from earlier, then?
Given how stubborn you were to finally admit that having more email attachment options is better than less, I guess I shouldn't hold my breath.
I suppose the fact that you don't read and/or choose to continue ignoring my posts explains why you continue pretending there was no backlash both by general users and the tech blogosphere for the S6's lost of certain hardware features. This can only mean willful ignorance or worse, you're trolling. Might be worth reporting.
When the S5 was launched Samsung marketed the water resistance of the device and poked fun at others that hadn't included the feature. I remember the discussions back in early 2014. This is no different to other manufacturers highlighting features we never knew we needed only to drop them in later editions. Not sure what specifics are trying to be proved here?
Personally I would like to see water resistance incorporated into every device because in my opinion it should be a standard feature. I would like to see Apple explore this route as Samsung have.
Personally I would like to see water resistance incorporated into every device because in my opinion it should be a standard feature. I would like to see Apple explore this route as Samsung have.
Yup no doubt Samsung advertised the crap out of the waterproof feature.
Id like to see that feature more too. Or at the very least offer a variant of it like Samsung will likely do with the Active model.
Heck......I like to have on my iPhone too!
Yeah. I think as waterproofing technology gets better, we could see Apple do it. Apple is design first, though, so unless they can keep the device thin, the ports opened, they won't ever offer waterproofing.
Which is why I think what Samsung is doing is smart. Streamlining their main flagship for design and premium build qualities is smart; and saving the more niche features like waterproofing, etc. for another variant makes sense to address people who find those features more important.
For example, Sony's flagship Z series is all waterproof, but at a price. They're thicker, there's been talk about the screens not being the best quality, they have flaps! Sony's Z4 is supposed to retain waterproofing but allow the USB port to be opened -- that's a huge plus.
I think you summed that up rather well! The great thing about Android OEMs is if one company doesn't build to fit certains needs......you can be sure another one will step up and fill the need. Great to have choices!
I will throw it out there and see if you tend to agree.
Apple does not have to close the gap to the S6 hardware because a very high percentage of their customers use the phone for calling, texting, emailing and some snaps. Everything else is low priority and the current hardware in the iphone is good enough.
Apple does not have to close the gap to the S6 hardware because a very high percentage of their customers use the phone for calling, texting, emailing and some snaps. Everything else is low priority and the current hardware in the iphone is good enough.
Samsung had another phone that was water proof other than the GS 5. Can't recall the name of it. I don't really care about a water proof phone myself.
Well, while obviously some people use their phones like that, and more than just a few of course, I'm not really sure there's much to indicate that it's a very high percentage (or even really a majority).
I agree that the screen might look better, but it has reached a point of diminishing returns. I cannot see the pixels on my phone for the most part, so higher resolution is not going pique a lot of my interest. Sure OLED has higher contrast ratio and brightness than LCD.
I won't trade off all the things work for me for a screen. Slightly better screen still is not good enough for me to jump over, I have had my taste freedom to tinker with GNex and iPhone Jailbreak. I am past that point. My time is better spent elsewhere than tinkering, even though that is what I do at work.
I might be tempted to in the future, but that cannot be because of marginally better screen or aluminum body or eight core processor.
The 'Apple locking in' fallacy is not true at all. I am not forced to make the decision to buy an iPhone, I choose to because I prefer using it.
Of course there are shortcomings in the OS and the hardware, but the trade off is far worse than the shortcomings. iPhone does far better with the hardware and the software. For example, iPhone 6 has smaller battery than the S6 and S6 battery life is still not better than iPhone 6. Apple designs custom SOC for efficiency while Samsung will design a generic processor that runs a generic OS, that is where Samsung cannot catch up to Apple.
Let me turn the tables with a silly question, when will Android catch up to iOS, example http://superpowered.com/androidaudiopathlatency/#axzz3XTduabxD
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You mean the trade is far worse than the shortcomings for you. The extra functionality android has is attractive to me.
I am well aware of androids audio latency issues and they do not effect my use case. Of course I want them fixed though.
I know this thread is about hardware, but where Apple is behind for me is software.