And not selling it is exactly the same, standing on the other side of the issue. Also don't forget, leather is just a by product, it's there because of you, meat lover.
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'Categorically Terrible,' and Other Early Reactions to Apple's New FineWoven Accessories
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I don't really like the idea of animal products, but the leather case is super durable. It outlasts the silicon case by a million years and the natural way it wears is beautiful.
Right will go against the grain mostly on here (no pun intended
) on reading this thread bought a Torro leather case for £35 on the strength of the feelings on here.
Picking up my phone had a play around with the fine woven case and really liked it, had a wee win on the bookies so splashed the cash for the blue one, think it’s pretty smart.
) on reading this thread bought a Torro leather case for £35 on the strength of the feelings on here.Picking up my phone had a play around with the fine woven case and really liked it, had a wee win on the bookies so splashed the cash for the blue one, think it’s pretty smart.
I went to the apple store today and noticed two things (1) All the finewoven cases were scratched. lol obviously people went in to the store and scratch tested them in person and (2) it feels nothing like leather. I don't know if it's me being mental or whatever, but I"m not really sure how reviewers thought they felt like leather.
Leather boots aren’t an Apple-made leather case for the iPhone. I had a leather cover for my iPad mini and it was scratched, intentionally by me, with my finger nail to see what would happen. And I couldn’t get it out.
Mind you there are various types of leather with full-grain being the most durable. Bonded or corrected-grain leather is less so. Maybe Apple improved the leather on their cases after my iPad mini, but that was the last leather product from Apple I bought.
I’m just speaking from my own experience.
My point was just that when you say it is "quite durable by all accounts", all the accounts I'm seeing make a point of commenting on its lack of durability.
I guess I'm just partly annoyed by the "vegan leather" phraseology... It's phrased to sound like a substitute, but clearly isn't. I mean, can't you just call the Apple silicone cases "vegan leather" by the same measure. Or even these for that matter. It seems "vegan leather" is just anything that isn't actually leather.
What's the carbon footprint of Lisa Jackson, Apple's Vice President of Environment, Policy, and Social Initiatives?
While one part of the world is baking …others are getting flooding and dying by the thousands due to water (floods). Mother Nature 101.
Apple is getting out of control with their virtue signaling. God forbid we use leather cases while kids are mining cobalt and lithium to power their cash cow iPhones.
The irony of caring more about cows than the humans (including children) that mine all the minerals to produce these devices show how disgustingly off balance the world is right now.
Yah it’s ridiculous
There’s some weird top down trend to phase out meat
Apple sold fancy Hermes watch bands for hundreds of dollars, and even a $17000.00 gold Apple Watch version 1. Now they are taking it a bit too far with ridiculous silicone case colours and no leather.
I needed 2 cases last year. One leather one that was good till it got worn out in 6 months, and one red silicone case that also wore out in less than 6 months!
I now have the clear plastic case in my hands. I need to use BOTH hands to hold my dang 15 pro max. It’s so slippery.
i’m a mustard tiger so if I had one of those fabric cases it would be a hilarious mess of various food condiments and grease in a week!
Do we know Apple Inc. does not care about the humans?
If your argument is:
(1) if you use Li-ion batteries and alloys with cobalt then you do not care about humans; then
(2) none of us (not just Apple) care about humans because we all use items that include Li and Co.
FineWoven cases are rubbish. Sharp cutouts around the charging and speaker ports dig into the pinky finger.
The material looks and feels cheap and nasty and scratches/marks very easily.
Take the Apple logo off it, and it’s $15 on Amazon or eBay.
I returned mine after 1 day.
It’s not a patch on the leather cases it replaced, particularly not at the same price point.
The material looks and feels cheap and nasty and scratches/marks very easily.
Take the Apple logo off it, and it’s $15 on Amazon or eBay.
I returned mine after 1 day.
It’s not a patch on the leather cases it replaced, particularly not at the same price point.
Transporting this piece of garbage FW case back and forth when so many return it is an environmental disaster.
So… if you get run over or murdered by someone, with you no longer in a position to have an opinion there surely is no reason for anyone to car or bring the person responsible to justice, right?
Do you know what those alternatives are made of? They are all derivatives of crude oil… the silicone cases are probably some kind of fluoroelastomer… forever chemicals, look it up.
The idea of 'not being in a position to have an opinion' isn't necessarily that the animal is dead, and thus unable to speak for itself anymore, but rather that it didn't have the right to an opinion in the first place, not even when it was alive. Your analogy is silly. A human has the right not to be murdered; a cow hasn't.
Harp on eco warriors all you want.
Everyone here being all cool and nihilistic claiming “leather just comes from beef cows who are killed anyway” will face the consequences of Brazilian beef farms burning rain forest to the ground… whether you ‘believe’ in global warming or human impact on nature or not.
Better be ready: nobody will care about the impact of all of this on average Joe, just like the detractors of the eco warriors don’t care about the animals or the environment.
All living things command respect.
Stating an animal has no rights is immoral: who decided that… you?
Even if so, what prevents someone or something more powerful than you from deciding you have no such right?
No previous ‘society’ cut down millions of square kilometers of the only rain forests we have to grow soy to feed cows to feed to increasingly overweight humans.
The economics and efficiencies of beef production are very objectively and very well understood not to be renewable or sustainable.
Mankind.
Like it or not, we live in a world where humans make the rules. I didn't make this world, nor did I say it was fair. It is what it is.
I hope you never get in a situation where a fellow man or other representatives of mankind decide for you on things which will negatively impact you then… again, pick up a history book and see what statements like yours can result in.
Spoiler: it ain't pretty
Again, your analogy is faulty. We're not talking about men turning onto each other, but about one species ruling the Earth and the others not having a say in the matter.
If you want a better analogy, that would be another species having control of the Earth, like in the Planet of the Apes. Or some extra-terrestrial invasion. But that's so unlikely to happen any time soon, that I won't lose sleep over it.
You do realize the leather cases are just a tenth of a mm of leather glued to a plastic case with some MagSafe metal bits, right?
Biodegradable, not so much…