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kre62

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I have an appointment Thursday hoping they have white box replacements... or any in stock at all. Or I’ll just get an iPhone 8 cause this screen is complete garbage compared to my iPhone 7.

Dont white box it, you wont be able to do a retail return after that. I just went from an iPhone X to an 8+ and am absolutely loving it. The new black model looks sleek and feels nice. If you can wait a bit til the X gets the kinks ironed out, I'd recommend that one.
 
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Sean76

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I have an appointment Thursday hoping they have white box replacements... or any in stock at all. Or I’ll just get an iPhone 8 cause this screen is complete garbage compared to my iPhone 7.

They will have replacements I’d assume, not new in the box units, but white box ones like you mentioned. I’m to old for this crap...lmaoo
 

awesumsauce

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^^ That being said, can we conclude that there is nothing wrong with our phones but rather a personal preference since they were designed to be this way?

Seems like most if not all of the X Users here are experiencing a yellow tone when TT is set to on.

Just my .02
Well my iPhone X has yellowish/warmer tint with TT and Night Shift OFF. So is that normal or do I have a bad screen? I’m not worried about hue shift that happens when I tilt the phone. But when I look straight at it, it’s much more yellowish than my iPhone 7 Plus that I had.
 
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Sean76

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Dont white box it, you wont be able to do a retail return after that. I just went from an iPhone X to an 8+ and am absolutely loving it. The new black model looks sleek and feels nice. If you can wait a bit til the X gets the kinks ironed out, I'd recommend that one.

Yea if I can’t adjust, I’m doing an 8 plus for the next year.

I won’t do the whole exchange thing with Apple, I hate being that person, the one who looks nuts and wants to exchange my phone for one that’s flawless, because these days perfect and flawless is a complete lottery.
 

daffie

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I'd really like to see comparison photo's between an X and an 8 Plus *with true tone activated on both devices *
 

Icealicy

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With True Tone set to off. I am scrolling through the thread and I’m noticing with my normal viewing angle of the phone to my face: the top of the phone I’ll notice a yellow tinting to the content. Scrolling that same content down I’ll notice it becomes less yellow and more white/blue whatever you want to call it. Is this normal? Should I return back to Apple store? I browsed through this thread and saw people talking about yellow tint. But what about this? Is this part of what you all are describing?

Thanks.
 
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kre62

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With True Tone set to off. I am scrolling through the thread and I’m noticing with my normal viewing angle of the phone to my face: the top of the phone I’ll notice a yellow tinting to the content. Scrolling that same content down I’ll notice it becomes less yellow and more white/blue whatever you want to call it. Is this normal? Should I return back to Apple store? I browsed through this thread and saw people talking about yellow tint. But what about this? Is this part of what you all are describing?

Thanks.

Yes, definitely part of it. Really disappointed in the X's screen. Better luck next year I guess. Hope Apple switches back to LCD and drops the obsession with no bezels. I'll take a small bezel like the Essential phone all day and have LCD.
 

shadow82x

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That X looks exactly like the defective *Pink* displays that plagued the Galaxy S8 and S8+. Horrible!!
I've had Galaxy's previously with the pink tint. My iPhone X actually has no pink/purple tint too it, it just appears in the picture. Like I've said, it appears far more yellow/warmer in real life.
I have the belkin glass screen protector from Apple...which has a finger print smudge from the dingo that put it on. If I keep the phone i’ll Have them switch the screen protector out.
Again, I wonder if this has any impact on the yellow/warmness we're seeing. It makes no sense to phyiscally see a warmer screen temperature, and then take a picture and see the opposite. Hm.
 

xmarcuswildx

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Well my iPhone X has yellowish/warmer tint with TT and Night Shift OFF. So is that normal or do I have a bad screen? I’m not worried about hue shift that happens when I tilt the phone. But when I look straight at it, it’s much more yellowish than my iPhone 7 Plus that I had.
It’s a bad Screen. Not all of them are yellow in the store. Some of them are perfect like an OLED Screen should be. Me and my wife both got bad screens.

Even when i turn True Tone on and shine an LED/UV light into my phone my screen brightness goes up but ITS STILL YELLOW. It’s NOT working properly the phone should be one white.

Even when I’m using my phone straight on I see a color gradient across my screen from top to bottom it goes white to blue.
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I've had Galaxy's previously with the pink tint. My iPhone X actually has no pink/purple tint too it, it just appears in the picture. Like I've said, it appears far more yellow/warmer in real life.

Again, I wonder if this has any impact on the yellow/warmness we're seeing. It makes no sense to phyiscally see a warmer screen temperature, and then take a picture and see the opposite. Hm.
I took my screen protector off and it’s still the same yellow tint.

I turn “reduce white point” on the lowest setting and my phone looks exactly the same as it does off. It’s almost like the hardware/lights for the reduce white point are stuck ON.
 
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shadow82x

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It’s a bad Screen. Not all of them are yellow in the store. Some of them are perfect like an OLED Screen should be. Me and my wife both got bad screens.

Even when i turn True Tone on and shine an LED/UV light into my phone my screen brightness goes up but ITS STILL YELLOW. It’s NOT working properly the phone should be one white.

Even when I’m using my phone straight on I see a color gradient across my screen from top to bottom it goes white to blue.
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I took my screen protector off and it’s still the same yellow tint.

I turn “reduce white point” on the lowest setting and my phone looks exactly the same as it does off. It’s almost like the hardware/lights for the reduce white point are stuck ON.
Our of curiosity, what screen protector did you use?
 

stinglikebee786

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It's sad (but also reassuring) to know that other customers are having the issue with the yellow and dim tint on their brand new iphone X's, because I literally felt like a crazy person trying to explain it to the apple employees in the store who kept denying any difference.

I could have potentially accepted the yellow screen if this is how ALL the iphone Xs had been, but clearly seeing numerous floor models and friend's Xs that looked PERFECT with bright, vibrant whites - it makes me feel like I got an inferior product while paying the same price (which is tough to accept).

I have an appointment with Genius bar in a few hours, I have already exchanged once (got a replacement with same yellow screen) and am gonna try to see if they will let me try another replacement, and if not or if that also is yellow, I plan to just completely return the phone and buy again later maybe when this issue is resolved. Its unfortunate, cause the phone is otherwise fantastic and the screen on the floor models does look awesome.

For all those who have the same issue, what are you guys deciding to do? Are you all going to be returning the phones or keeping and living with the yellow screen?


And for all who keep suggesting "just turn TT off", actually read this thread and realize this is an issue with TT and Night mode OFF.
 

Toonartist

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I went in store today to see the iPhone X for the 1st time in person and the ones I seen did have a slightly yellow tinge, not much. Only a little more than the 8+ I have. Just looked like a D65 calibration.

Thought it was a nice phone but I wouldn't get one myself. When compared to the 8+ the size of the screen is a bit of a drop. The size of online images etc on the X when comparing the two was quite a bit smaller. That said, if you have a 6,7 or even an 8, the iPhone X would be a great upgrade.

One thing I didn't like at all was the way to bring up the control panel (which I use a lot). Seemed a bit of an after thought tucked away in the top right corner.

But, I thought the screen looked great. Looking forward to an X plus.... with a better Control Panel :)
 

shadow82x

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I personally will not be exchanging (most likely) because I believe this is my design. I'm not a display expert but I do believe our "warm" displays are near 6500°K (D65) and we're just used to cooler screens. (Displaymate also tested the white point being around ~6500.) That said, people generally prefer cooler screens so I can see the cause for concern.

It would be nice if someone can professionally measure this.
 

xmarcuswildx

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It's sad (but also reassuring) to know that other customers are having the issue with the yellow and dim tint on their brand new iphone X's, because I literally felt like a crazy person trying to explain it to the apple employees in the store who kept denying any difference.

I could have potentially accepted the yellow screen if this is how ALL the iphone Xs had been, but clearly seeing numerous floor models and friend's Xs that looked PERFECT with bright, vibrant whites - it makes me feel like I got an inferior product while paying the same price (which is tough to accept).

I have an appointment with Genius bar in a few hours, I have already exchanged once (got a replacement with same yellow screen) and am gonna try to see if they will let me try another replacement, and if not or if that also is yellow, I plan to just completely return the phone and buy again later maybe when this issue is resolved. Its unfortunate, cause the phone is otherwise fantastic and the screen on the floor models does look awesome.

For all those who have the same issue, what are you guys deciding to do? Are you all going to be returning the phones or keeping and living with the yellow screen?


And for all who keep suggesting "just turn TT off", actually read this thread and realize this is an issue with TT and Night mode OFF.
I want to try a replacement first I have an appointment Thursday at the apple store.

I went in on Monday to compare compare it with floor models and some looked like mine while others were like night and day. Crisp white whites and beautiful bright screens.

The store employees basically told me I was wrong and that it looked normal to them yet they insisted on “using their triage model” which probably has the same damn yellow hue issue on it. I’m gonna try multiple stores until someone with half a brain gets the issue.
 

Toonartist

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I personally will not be exchanging (most likely) because I believe this is my design. I'm not a display expert but I do believe our "warm" displays are near 6500°K (D65) and we're just used to cooler screens. (Displaymate also tested the white point being around ~6500.) That said, people generally prefer cooler screens so I can see the cause for concern.

It would be nice if someone can professionally measure this.

I agree with the D65. Since using True Tone etc on the 8+, I found using the MacBook Pro was hard work on the eyes at night. Thankfully, just updated it to High Sierra and it has Night Shift on. Eyes feel better for it!
 

Sean76

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I've had Galaxy's previously with the pink tint. My iPhone X actually has no pink/purple tint too it, it just appears in the picture. Like I've said, it appears far more yellow/warmer in real life.

Again, I wonder if this has any impact on the yellow/warmness we're seeing. It makes no sense to phyiscally see a warmer screen temperature, and then take a picture and see the opposite. Hm.

I will let you know. Mine has a small finger print smudge in ten corner that I’m taking to Apple to have em put a new one on. No harm in taking a look at the screen naked.
 

kre62

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I personally will not be exchanging (most likely) because I believe this is my design. I'm not a display expert but I do believe our "warm" displays are near 6500°K (D65) and we're just used to cooler screens. (Displaymate also tested the white point being around ~6500.) That said, people generally prefer cooler screens so I can see the cause for concern.

It would be nice if someone can professionally measure this.

My response would be that if this is 6500k, I dont want 6500k. I know some dude somewhere picked that number as perfect but the X didnt look even close to the real world I see, through the blue tinted atmosphere we have here on earth.

I dont think this is a 6500k issue, as there are display models of the X without this yellow staining, but thought I'd add that since someone always tries to claim accurate colors when this happens. My response: 1) its not the intentional calibration as there are other phones without this issue and 2) If it was calibration, I'd simply avoid anything with this "correct" calibration, which looks terrible.
 

xmarcuswildx

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I went in store today to see the iPhone X for the 1st time in person and the ones I seen did have a slightly yellow tinge, not much. Only a little more than the 8+ I have. Just looked like a D65 calibration.

Thought it was a nice phone but I wouldn't get one myself. When compared to the 8+ the size of the screen is a bit of a drop. The size of online images etc on the X when comparing the two was quite a bit smaller. That said, if you have a 6,7 or even an 8, the iPhone X would be a great upgrade.

One thing I didn't like at all was the way to bring up the control panel (which I use a lot). Seemed a bit of an after thought tucked away in the top right corner.

But, I thought the screen looked great. Looking forward to an X plus.... with a better Control Panel :)
Control panel will forever stay in the right corner on the X because of the swipe up to do things so don’t expect that to change. Also I came from 3 years of a plus model it only takes about a day or 2 to get used to size of the phone. Then once you go back to pick up a plus model you realize just how way to big it actually is and that the iPhone X is the perfect size.
 

thadoggfather

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Yes, definitely part of it. Really disappointed in the X's screen. Better luck next year I guess. Hope Apple switches back to LCD and drops the obsession with no bezels. I'll take a small bezel like the Essential phone all day and have LCD.


neither of those will happen

sorry but you'll be in for disappointment
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Control panel will forever stay in the right corner on the X because of the swipe up to do things so don’t expect that to change. Also I came from 3 years of a plus model it only takes about a day or 2 to get used to size of the phone. Then once you go back to pick up a plus model you realize just how way to big it actually is and that the iPhone X is the perfect size.

as much as it takes getting used to top right as opposed to bottom stretching your hand at times, I agree. it will stay there to justify the bunny ear functionality
 

shadow82x

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My response would be that if this is 6500k, I dont want 6500k. I know some dude somewhere picked that number as perfect but the X didnt look even close to the real world I see, through the blue tinted atmosphere we have here on earth.

I dont think this is a 6500k issue, as there are display models of the X without this yellow staining, but thought I'd add that since someone always tries to claim accurate colors when this happens. My response: 1) its not the intentional calibration as there are other phones without this issue and 2) If it was calibration, I'd simply avoid anything with this "correct" calibration, which looks terrible.
Fair point. Yellow staining is an entirely new story. I had previously owned Samsung phones so I know exactly what you are referring to. My iPhone X doesn't have those characteristics, and it pretty warmly uniform. If I had two different color tints/color staining, I'd be returning, just like I did with my Galaxies.
 
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xmarcuswildx

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Even if I look at my phone straight on I get yellow at the top and bluer/whites down the bottom. This is unacceptable and not normal. I’ve had OLED phones before and this is not normal. Apple failed massively calibrating these screens.
 
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garethjs

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I turn “reduce white point” on the lowest setting and my phone looks exactly the same as it does off. It’s almost like the hardware/lights for the reduce white point are stuck ON.

I just tried that, white point all the way down to 0 and display is much better at minimum brightness. I’ll see how this goes
 

Maxoumax6

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Definitvely reassuring, but still really annoying ! Especially compared to all other OLED/AMOLED screens out there, TV and other smartphones
I was not expecting such a difference when shooting iPhone's / Ipad with my camera (D7100 with a Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G) but screens appear really different behind the lens.

With my naked eye, here is the order of devices with the warmest to the coolest screen :

iPhoneX > Surface Pro 4 > iPad Mini > iPhone 6 Plus.

The screen I apreciate the most, still through my naked eye: iPhone 6 Plus

All devices are set to the max luminosity with the same settings (TT Off if exists, NS off)
Camera do the white balance itself (but exact same results when I set WB to 5000K)

All.jpg
iPadMini.jpg
iPhone6Plus.jpg


For me the Surface Pro 4 screen is perfect with true whites, iPhone X is second with a sensitive warmer/pinky white but still white, iPad and iPhone 6 Plus are the same with a greenish white.
I was not expecting such a difference...

Result when I dimmed the brightness:

iPhoneX_dim.jpg
iPhone6Plus_dim.jpg



With NS on:

iPhone6Plus_NS.jpg
iPhoneX_NS.jpg


When I tilt the phone

Angle.jpg
Angle2.jpg


If perfect white iPhone X can be found, I assume warm screen is a defect !
 

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Sean76

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Fair point. Yellowing staining is an entirely new story. I had previously owned Samsung phones so I know exactly what you are referring to. My iPhone X doesn't have those characteristics, and it pretty warmly uniform. If I had two different color tints/color staining, I'd be returning, just like I did with my Galaxies.

I’ve owned plenty of Samsung phones and really don’t remember a time when tilting the phone down and up in front of you would change the screen from that pale yellowish color to cool blues.

A real PITA!
 
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