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Compared to the rest of the market, the iPhone isn't a top 10 smartphone.
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That's a limited view, since the market that you are (without success) fantasying with doesn't exist.
Their "arena" is the space that both sides are targeting. I know it, devs know it, the population knows it and you know it. Apple is targeting the typical person that is buying those Lumia 520.
Most users (more than any other point in history) that could buy an Android flagship, aren't doing it. They are buying iPhones.
The act of me buying my current lower end Android device isn't a loss for Apple, and Google can see as many activations as they please. It doesn't change the fact that the iOS ecosystem is stronger than ever and going up, and crushing every single alternative on the high end along the way.
We can debate the sex of the angels as long as we want, the reality is still the same.
Their overall market share is low so the chances of it going up aginst their own numbers are better vs the one who owns nearly 85% of the market share overall and is not only growing against themselves but against the market.
So you are backing away from your previous post of the vast majority being the measuring stick?
This is the measuring stick and the market that does not exist:
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Can you tell me how much shares of android are? How much did android earn?
Let's be real, when phones worldwide running android are being given away vs apples prices, it's a no brainer. A Camry sells more units than a Bugatti. Not because of any technical excellence...
You only want to keep mentioning worldwide, because in the US and/or Canada it's a very different picture.
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Not backpedaling. The fact is when you don't have to develop and support and operating system and can give away your phones, worldwide, your numbers will reflect that. Camry(android) vs Bugatti(iphone). There is a waiting list to buy a Bugatti(IOS), is there a waiting list to buy an android?
Oh so now you want to narrow the metrics even more to just profit? Why would we do that? How does that equate to the thread topic? So the vast majority rules but only if they match Apple's profit structure? So if Apple overcharges then they win?
You have continuously changed your position everytime someone proves you wrong..... You make analogies and comparisons only to be proven wrong...... Then you change your position.
Now a Bugatti .... Earlier in the thread it was the Toyota Camry...... You flip flop more than a fish out water
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is that a variable shoppers are using when buying a phone? hmm....maybe I missed that. hey, I make a ton of money being a doctor with a large practice and my wife her own law practice; are our decisions held to the same regard that is based on earnings? I'll take that, thanks.
if that were the main driver then by definition Apple shouldn't be selling hardly any phones given the units start at $650 USD Or so vs free. No, in the end, people aren't buying apple in the same numbers vs all the others because while the are solid, they aren't the best value out there.
Reading fundamentals 101. When someone says 'in no particular order', that means he is not placing any phone above another. I simply gave a list of 10 phones randomly placed.
Nope. You just misinterpret everything.
Can we do something better than March 2014?
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Compare apple vs other manufacturers. Samsung's flagships, mgmt. resigning? I'm not going to waste my time because so much of this folderol, however, my suspicion is that a lot of android sales are from cheap phones; which is not apples competition. Sales of apple flagship vs Samsung flagship anyone? Apple vs HTC?
Yeah, because Apple has never had anyone in leadership leave get kicked out or resign.
Apple vs the market anyone? iOS vs the market anyone? iPad vs non iOS Tablets? iTunes vs Streaming? How about Apple TV? I guess Apple isn't bulletproof after all. Apple never disappoints right?
I misinterpret nothing.........you change your analogies when proven wrong. Flip Flopping like a fish....
Sure here are 2014 Q3 results
All of this info has been posted on numerous threads that you have been involved with. So you already know the numbers.
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No....now its YOUR turn to produce data........
Ummm. Ever see car sales reports? While it's true there are aggregated reports by segment; every manufacturer reports the sales of their vehicles by model or at least model type. These graphs of IOS vs Android are akin to sedans vs SUVs. SUVs outsold sedans; big deal. In the US android vs IOS, true android has a slight lead, but I'll bet if you look at phones by manufacturer, it's quite a different story, especially since apple is a US company.
I misinterpret nothing.........you change your analogies when proven wrong. Flip Flopping like a fish....
Sure here are 2014 Q3 results
All of this info has been posted on numerous threads that you have been involved with. So you already know the numbers.
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No....now its YOUR turn to produce data........
Still don't understand, typical...US market only; it's a different story by manufacturer. I don't need to prove what is already fairly common knowledge. Break of phones sold by manufacture for US markets paints a different story.
no you don't understand...... ONLY ONE company makes an IOS smartphone! Thats is the way Apple wants it......
Multiple companies produce Android smartphones. So the comparison is very accurate.
That's because people don't buy a phone based on the hardware. In fact that would be nearly pointless as they all have pretty much the exact same things in terms of the box the OS is in. They buy the OS/Phone together.
With only Apple selling iOS devices, whereas all the others across the board sell Android, such a spread says little. What it does say isn't surprising. What it does say is that across the board with a spread of manufacturers selling Android even some products are not as good as Apple's iPhone and many are just as good if not better, consumers still choose Android more than Apple's offerings.
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So honestly compare the iPhone to the Galaxy. Please no market share talk we all know android in itself has hundreds of models, lots of them low end given away for free.
I'm not arguing one way or the other but take the best selling android handset which I guess is the Galaxy s5 now and compare to the iPhone 6. Or compare previous years. In sales the iPhones sells more. Heck the 5s was outselling the s5 and it was almost a year old.
I'm not arguing one way or the other but take the best selling android handset which I guess is the Galaxy s5 now and compare to the iPhone 6. Or compare previous years. In sales the iPhones sells more. Heck the 5s was outselling the s5 and it was almost a year old.
I can. Can you?
Google is your friend, especially before making questionable statements.
Typical is that fanboys deny facts.
If it is already fairly common knowledge, then what are you still talking about?
And when the situation becomes uncomfortable you cry for closing the thread.
You received all the data and were proven wrong on all aspects.
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No. This thread has simply run it's course and is now so far from the original topic, it's not worth keeping open, in my opinion. In fact, I looked at all of the threads of 2014 and this one isn't even in the top 10 of threads to keep open.
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