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Confused about "Rest Finger to Open"
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It is like what was said before. By doing what is in BOLD, you've requested the phone to take you to the home screen. Stop pushing the home button if you don't want to go to the home screen.
Take a minute and READ what we're trying to tell you.
Yeah, I get that, but I think the current behavior is wrong. From what I understand, you're supposed to be able to use Touch ID to unlock the phone, then you can interact with your notifications and when you're done, you hit home again and you're brought home.
Why is the behavior different when Touch ID is off? With touch ID off, I have to press home to wake the screen, then home again to go home. It should be the same exact way for Touch ID.
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Then tell me why it's different when Touch ID is off. Please. I want to know why I can't just hit the home button ONCE with Touch ID off. It should be the same with both Touch ID on and Touch ID off (unless you have Rest Finger to Open turned on).
I think it's broken the way it currently is.
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You obviously don't have an iPhone 7. The thing unlocks even if I take my finger off immediately.
It is, if you wake, interact with your widgets (or camera, or notifications). As you do anything involving touching the screen you can rest on touchid to unlock but not go home.
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You're right, I don't. Millions of others do and there'd be plenty of those crying here on this forum and elsewhere if they had the same issue though.
You can. Well, you can't, apparently but others can.
Why?
It's not
I think part of the point here is that with all the discussions during the beta phase and after in relation to the new unlock method in iOS 10 there were quite a few mentions from different people that part of the reasoning behind and/or benefit of the new unlock method is to help with the "issue" various people were having of skipping the lock screen when they simply pressed the home button on devices with the newer version of TouchID, and that this new method would basically solve that in the sense that the first press of the home button wouldn't just unlock the phone and take the user to their home page. But seems like that might not be the case based on what is being brought up here, unless it is and the OP is simply having some issues with it that others aren't.
I made a video for you
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- With Touch ID off, I have to click the home button twice. Once to wake the screen, and once to go home
- With Touch ID on, I click the home button to wake the screen and it automatically goes home without letting me interact with notifications
- With Touch ID on and Rest Finger to Open, I click the home button to wake the screen and it automatically goes home without letting me interact with notifications.
See the issue now?
Why did they add Rest Finger to Open if you're still automatically taken to the home screen with one press?
- With Touch ID off, I have to click the home button twice. Once to wake the screen, and once to go home
- With Touch ID on, I click the home button to wake the screen and it automatically goes home without letting me interact with notifications
- With Touch ID on and Rest Finger to Open, I click the home button to wake the screen and it automatically goes home without letting me interact with notifications.
See the issue now?
Why did they add Rest Finger to Open if you're still automatically taken to the home screen with one press?
That last attempt in particular, you have your finger on that button for full second. If that really qualifies as "no matter how fast", you're going to have problems.
Are you serious right now? The screen was OFF. You mean you don't put your finger on the button until you're 100% ready to click it? Wow. I've been pressing buttons wrong my whole life then.
The moment I click it, I release my finger. Simple as that.
Do I need to make you another video where I quickly tap the button and let go without resting my finger there at all? I can do that if you'd like. I get the same results.
To be fair, even if that attempt seemed a bit odd in some way (and resting the finger on the button when the screen is off really shouldn't play a role one way or another), it seems like the other attempts were fairly quick or the very least typical of just a press without holding or leaving finger or anything like that.
I still think this ultimately goes back to the point of "rest to open". I believe the rest to open is only suppose to come into play if you are using the lock button or raise to wake to wake the screen. Then because the screen is already on, you can just rest your finger to open. Therefore you aren't clicking an extra button, just like in iOS 7-9.
Same thing goes for the iPad Smart Cover. When 'rest' is off, you need to click the home button after opening the smart cover. But if 'rest' is on, then all you need to do is put your finger on the button after the screen has been awoken and it opens.
Same thing goes for the iPad Smart Cover. When 'rest' is off, you need to click the home button after opening the smart cover. But if 'rest' is on, then all you need to do is put your finger on the button after the screen has been awoken and it opens.
It just seems wrong to me. I should be able to wake the screen with the home button.
If the home button was supposed to bring me home even when the screen is off, then why is it different when touch ID is off? With Touch ID disabled, I can press home to wake the screen and then press home to go home.
You might be right in that, as in it doesn't really apply to actually pressing the home button to wake the screen. It kind of goes somewhat against various conclusions that seemed to have been drawn about the new unlock method in different discussions about iOS 10, but nevertheless that is what it appears to be like.
Okay,actually it is as simple as that.
No matter what phone you are using, clicking home button with TouchId enabled will bring you to home screen directly. It is not related to rest finger to unlock.
If you are using 6s or below, you have to use your nail or other unregistered finger to click on home button (or power button) to wake up the phone.
If you are using 7, there is no way to use nail then. The point is ios 10 changes its behaviour to unlock...press to unlock. So if you wish to wake the phone without going to home, use raise to wake or pressing power button.
Rest finger to unlock is the feature only came after you have waked the phone. It is related to raise to wake.
It confuses you that rest finger to unlock can wake up the phone, and actually it is not.
No contradiction here.
No matter what phone you are using, clicking home button with TouchId enabled will bring you to home screen directly. It is not related to rest finger to unlock.
If you are using 6s or below, you have to use your nail or other unregistered finger to click on home button (or power button) to wake up the phone.
If you are using 7, there is no way to use nail then. The point is ios 10 changes its behaviour to unlock...press to unlock. So if you wish to wake the phone without going to home, use raise to wake or pressing power button.
Rest finger to unlock is the feature only came after you have waked the phone. It is related to raise to wake.
It confuses you that rest finger to unlock can wake up the phone, and actually it is not.
No contradiction here.
You were never able to wake the screen with the home button with a 5s or higher, with iOS 7 or higher. It all did the same thing you are experiencing now. This is the 4th year of iOS and its behaved exactly the same. Why would it change now? There was so much backlash that they actually added the option for the 'rest finger' after beta 1 because of people that woke the screen with the lock button and had to then click the home button to gain access to the phone.
I'm guessing probably to add some prevention to accidental unlocks as it would be a bit too easy to unlock the phone unintentionally with just a single home button press (given that it's already easier to do it with two home button presses compared to sliding the screen with a finger).
Thats actually probably spot on. Hitting the button is a lot easier than swiping, so it had to be a fail-safe. Imagine the the things that could happen on your phone with it in your pocket and unlocked.
Using a phone with TouchID enabled (iPhone 6) I have been able to (prior to iOS 10) and am still able to (in iOS 10) to simply press the home button, even using a registered finger, to wake up the screen and stay on the lock screen and not be unlocked.
It seems like we are likely back to the same old thing (at this point) that came about with iPhone 6s line of phones and the new generation of TouchID where it's quick enough to work even from a quick press of the home button. It was one of the more prevalent theories that the unlock method in iOS 10 was changed to help with that so that those with the newer faster TouchID could still press the home button and not have the phone unlock on them right away, but it seems like that wasn't the case after all as that scenario hasn't actually been impacted by the change (which also kind of makes the whole unlock method change have that much less of a rationale behind it).
iPhone 6 has slower TouchID, so by time you remove your finger, it probably wasn't able to authenticate in time. But if you left your finger on the button for another .5 seconds then it matches the same behavior as the iPhone 6s.
Ya, only 6s or below. I guess the post owner is using a 7 and he confuses
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I got it. But obviously thread owner is not using a 6. Otherwise he wont raise such a question. But i totally agree with you bro
There's no issue, other than you being too slow. In the former case the behaviors is intentional.
A touchID user can linger on the home button at wake time to go straight to the home screen. It's by design to retain the previous "I don't want to do anything but get to my home screen" behavior. Lift off quickly and then interact with the screen and then resting will just unlock, not go to the home screen (unless you have rest to unlock on, your last use case)
Not quite 6s or below, but basically 6 or below it would seem.
Right, that really only changed about a year ago with 6s and the newer generation of TouchID.
Just seems that despite all the discussions an conclusions about the new unlock method iOS 10 actually hasn't actually done much after all to address or change that aspect of it all given that it's still there the same way.
I see that some people don't understand what's going on.
I DON'T have an iPhone 6. My Touch ID is so fast that by the time I click the home button (with the screen off) and lift my finger as quickly as possible, it still takes me home.
What SHOULD happen is this: Click the home button while screen is off. Touch ID unlocks the iPhone. I then interact with the notifications, then I press the home button to actually go to my home screen.
THEN, if I wanted the iPhone 5s/6 way of doing things, I could use the option "Rest Finger to Open" which would then let me press the home button once, rest my finger there, and the iPhone will go to the home screen automatically.
However, with Rest Finger to Open ON or OFF, I get the same exact results, which defeats the purpose of having that option.
I DON'T have an iPhone 6. My Touch ID is so fast that by the time I click the home button (with the screen off) and lift my finger as quickly as possible, it still takes me home.
What SHOULD happen is this: Click the home button while screen is off. Touch ID unlocks the iPhone. I then interact with the notifications, then I press the home button to actually go to my home screen.
THEN, if I wanted the iPhone 5s/6 way of doing things, I could use the option "Rest Finger to Open" which would then let me press the home button once, rest my finger there, and the iPhone will go to the home screen automatically.
However, with Rest Finger to Open ON or OFF, I get the same exact results, which defeats the purpose of having that option.
No it seems YOU don't understand. Just because it 'should' doesn't mean it will. It is working as it has been for the last 4 generations of iOS. The only difference is that TouchID is faster with the 6s and 7. Therefore, if you click with the home button you will be taken to the home screen, no matter what, because it authenticates immediately. I learned to use the lock button last year with the 6s to prevent this, that same behavior has carried over to my iPhone 7Plus now.
Again, the "Rest Finger to Open" Applies ONLY to using Raise to Wake and waking the screen with the lock button. Has nothing to do with home button. I don't know how many times this has to be explained. "Rest Finger" has nothing to do with awakening the iPhone itself, but a faster way to get to your home screen if you awoken it via raise to wake or lock button.
Just because it's been that way for 4 generations, doesn't mean it has to stay that way.
Touch ID is simply TOO fast on the new devices and I THOUGHT that was part of the reason for the lock screen redesign.
It seems inconsistent to me.
For example:
NO touch ID = Press home button to wake the screen, press home button again to go home
Touch ID = Press home button to wake screen, keep finger on home button and it takes you home
Touch ID + Rest Finger to Open = Press home button to wake screen, keep finger on home button and it takes you home.
Why are the last 2 exactly the same function? One would think that if you do NOT want your phone to go home automatically by simply holding your finger over the button, then one would turn OFF "Rest Finger to Open" and EXPECT the same behavior as NO touch ID.
THAT'S my point. It doesn't make sense why it lets you rest your finger to open when you do NOT have that option turned on.
It seems like all of that was what the ongoing "theories" were during many different discussions of iOS 10, but the reality is that in respect to how things unlock using the home button and the speed of the newer generation TouchID are still basically the same as they were before iOS 10.