Confused about "Rest Finger to Open"

[Tabbit2002]

Since the screen does wake up when I press home, I guess it must be a bug then.

Thinking:
Home button brings u home...cause the phone needs to wake before going home.

What bug?

 

[Jayson A]

Thinking:
Home button brings u home...cause the phone needs to wake before going home.

What bug?

You said the home button isn't meant to wake the screen. It's meant to bring you home.

However, with Touch ID OFF, it does not bring you home when you press it once. You have to press it twice, so I guess it's a bug.

Pressing the home button with the screen off should take you directly home, just like it does with Touch ID right?

It's so inconsistent with everything you try to say.

 

[C DM]

That's why its called the "Home" button. Pressing it takes you home. The button on the side is called the "Sleep/Wake" button. They have always had these names.
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But the real point is that you didn't just rest your finger on the home button. You pressed it.

Absolutely great. People are misunderstanding the name
[doublepost=1475544625][/doublepost]It means both will work perfectly if they are enabled.

If u disable anyone one of them, you will know

Except the home button has always only woke up the screen of a locked device and didn't unlock it and only started to with TouchID and only when the finger would remain on the button for a moment.

 

[Mlrollin91]

You said the home button isn't meant to wake the screen. It's meant to bring you home.

However, with Touch ID OFF, it does not bring you home when you press it once. You have to press it twice, so I guess it's a bug.

Pressing the home button with the screen off should take you directly home, just like it does with Touch ID right?

It's so inconsistent with everything you try to say.

No. As mentioned we believe with TouchID off it requires two presses to prevent auto-unlocking accidentally. Pressing the button once by mistake is a lot easier than accidentally swiping to unlock.

 

[C DM]

Actually the same behaviour

I understand it could be comfortable for some poeple to click on home button to wake...but i am afraid on clicking the home button as it might be vulnerable...until now i am stilling using virtual home to replace the home button

Anyway, during the first iphone keynote, steve jobs show us how to use iphone properly, press sleep/wake button to wake

What you are doing is less typical actually as Apple doesn't want you to be afraid of using a button and many people certainly use it to wake up the screen as it usually is quite convenient to do so that way. It doesn't mean that other ways aren't the or are less valid, t it it does mean that it has been a very valid way of doing it for years and years.

 

[Tabbit2002]

There is always been exceptional
If it is a bug ...a bug since the first genereation of iphone...so what?

A so call bug for several years means a behaviour

You said the home button isn't meant to wake the screen. It's meant to bring you home.

However, with Touch ID OFF, it does not bring you home when you press it once. You have to press it twice, so I guess it's a bug.

Pressing the home button with the screen off should take you directly home, just like it does with Touch ID right?

It's so inconsistent with everything you try to say.

 

[C DM]

No. As mentioned we believe with TouchID off it requires two presses to prevent auto-unlocking accidentally. Pressing the button once by mistake is a lot easier than accidentally swiping to unlock.

It's a bit odd that Apple chose to change the unlock method when it doesn't even help in this use case. Makes it harder to see the reasoning for the change aside basically for the sake of change (and perhaps to "promote" the widgets screen which really was accessible before anyway for those that used it and cared about it).

 

[Tabbit2002]

What you are doing is less typical actually as Apple doesn't want you to be afraid of using a button and many people certainly use it to wake up the screen as it usually is quite convenient to do so that way. It doesn't mean that other ways aren't the or are less valid, t it it does mean that it has been a very valid way of doing it for years and years.

I guess u may wake s phone using home button

But dont complain if it doesnt work in a way u wish...as it is not called a wake button
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It's a bit odd that Apple chose to change the unlock method when it doesn't even help in this use case. Makes it harder to see the reasoning for the change aside basically for the sake of change (and perhaps to "promote" the widgets screen which really was accessible before anyway for those that used it and cared about it).

I see this coming as they will remove the solid home button eventually

 

[C DM]

I guess u may wake s phone using home button

But dont complain if it doesnt work in a way u wish...as it is not called a wake button

It has worked that way all along. The name isn't everything. The volume up button is the shutter button for the camera, but it's not called that or anything related to it even though Apple officially made it the shutter button when camera is being used. If it stops working that way or starts working differently suddenly people shouldn't be wondering about that?

 

[Tabbit2002]

Alright no objection from the point of view

Still almost over 90% of us enjoys what we are doing right now...

It has worked that way all along. The name isn't everything. The volume up button is the shutter button for the camera, but it's not called that or anything related to it even though Apple officially made it the shutter button when camera is being used. If it stops working that way people shouldn't be wondering about that?

 

[Yun0]

petition for a toggle option for: current unlock option(s) or "enable swipe to unlock"? there everyones happy.

i liked swipe to unlock as well, its old and all, used to it. i also like rest home button to unlock, i also like press home button to unlock..

 

[_Refurbished_]

You said the home button isn't meant to wake the screen. It's meant to bring you home.

However, with Touch ID OFF, it does not bring you home when you press it once. You have to press it twice, so I guess it's a bug.

Pressing the home button with the screen off should take you directly home, just like it does with Touch ID right?

It's so inconsistent with everything you try to say.

Apple got rid of slide to unlock, love it or hate it.

When Touch ID is disabled or not supported, you have to hit the home button twice to unlock the phone. This prevents accidental unlocks.

Using Touch ID with raise to wake disabled, you only need to click the home button once to unlock your phone, since it reads your finger print as you hit the home button.

Using Touch ID with raise to wake enabled, the screen is turned on when you raise the phone to your face. To unlock the phone you can either A - click the home button or B - Enable "Rest Finger To Open". I use method B to unlock as I'm programmed to rest my finger to unlock from iOS 9.

There are no bugs. Everything works the way it's supposed to, even if it's not to your liking. As others have said, if you want to check your lock screen, use the power button or a non Touch ID finger to wake your phone. On the 6s or 7, you simply raise to wake to view notifications. No buttons required.

 

[Tabbit2002]

Finally a more logical say.

Some of those just wish to customize their default setting to unlock

They should either get an Android or jailbreak the phone...instead of saying it is a bug

Apple got rid of slide to unlock. On non-Touch ID phones, you have to hit the home button twice to unlock the phone. This prevents accidental unlocks.

Using Touch ID with raise to wake disabled, you only need to click the home button once to unlock your phone, since it reads your finger print as you hit the home button.

Using Touch ID and raise to wake enabled, the screen is turned on when you raise the phone to your face. To unlock the phone you can either A - click the home button or B - Enable "Rest Finger To Open". I use method B as my unlock as I'm programmed to rest my finger to unlock on iOS 9.

There are no bugs. Everything works the way it's supposed to, even if it's not to your liking. As others have said, if you want to check your lock screen, use the power button or a non Touch ID button to wake up your phone.

 

[C DM]

Apple got rid of slide to unlock.

When Touch ID is disabled or not supported, you have to hit the home button twice to unlock the phone. This prevents accidental unlocks.

Using Touch ID with raise to wake disabled, you only need to click the home button once to unlock your phone, since it reads your finger print as you hit the home button.

Using Touch ID and raise to wake enabled, the screen is turned on when you raise the phone to your face. To unlock the phone you can either A - click the home button or B - Enable "Rest Finger To Open". I use method B to unlock as I'm programmed to rest my finger to unlock on iOS 9.

There are no bugs. Everything works the way it's supposed to, even if it's not to your liking. As others have said, if you want to check your lock screen, use the power button or a non Touch ID button to wake up your phone.

That is basically how it works. Seems like there were some misconceptions about it for a while though and given the unlock method changes and the addition of the accessibility setting it seems like a combination to support just turning on the screen without unlocking even when TouchID is used could have been supported as an option too (again, as was supposedly was assumed to be the case from various discussions about this in the past).

 

[pika2000]

I prefer this option set to on. On my 6S, with raise to wake, I can go to my home screen without pushing any buttons.

 

[ninjaplz]

Why not just use a different finger (not assigned to TouchID) if you want to stay on the lock screen.

i was just able to say this before i saw your comment

 

[2015Girl]

I only click the home button once and it works. I enabled the rest your finger thing. I love the Touch ID where my 5C didn't have that option.

 

[Jayson A]

I only click the home button once and it works. I enabled the rest your finger thing. I love the Touch ID where my 5C didn't have that option.

But that's the opposite of what I want.

 

[WordMasterRice]

But that's the opposite of what I want.

I think anyone who disagrees with your point of view here needs to go back and watch the WWDC introduction of iOS 10 because Craig specifically said that they redid the push to unlock to prevent this from happening and that is how it worked in the first few betas. I actually had the same problem trying to change this on my 7+ yesterday. It's possible that they changed course late in the beta but as to what was actually announced as part of iOS 10 this is a bug.

 

[circatee]

I've not read all the responses, but, I will add this. If my screen is off, and I rest my finger on the home button, it doesn't wake the screen and take me to the home screen.

However, if raise to wake is on, and I pick up my phone, then rest my finger on the home button, it works.

Often, my phone is on my desk, and I rest my finder to see if I have new messages, etc. Of course, one still has to press the home button, ever so slightly...

 

[C DM]

I think anyone who disagrees with your point of view here needs to go back and watch the WWDC introduction of iOS 10 because Craig specifically said that they redid the push to unlock to prevent this from happening and that is how it worked in the first few betas. I actually had the same problem trying to change this on my 7+ yesterday. It's possible that they changed course late in the beta but as to what was actually announced as part of iOS 10 this is a bug.

Is that where that came from? I remember this coming up in various discussions about the new unlock method, and now recently (like in this thread) it seems that people are thinking that's not really the case.

 

[Mlrollin91]

I think anyone who disagrees with your point of view here needs to go back and watch the WWDC introduction of iOS 10 because Craig specifically said that they redid the push to unlock to prevent this from happening and that is how it worked in the first few betas. I actually had the same problem trying to change this on my 7+ yesterday. It's possible that they changed course late in the beta but as to what was actually announced as part of iOS 10 this is a bug.

Actually no. I typed as quickly as possible, but here is almost word for word what he said.

"Now that we have our iPhone 6s' with incredibly fast Touch ID sensor we can just blow past our notifications on our lock screen and we never get to see them. In iOS 10 we have a great solution, “Raise-to-wake” so now we can see whats on our lock screen without ever touching a button.”

Just as what I said earlier. The solution was Raise to wake. The Rest Finger has absolutely nothing to do with the initial waking of the phone.

Start at 51:10. For whatever reason the Youtube start time link isn't working.

 

[Jayson A]

Actually no. I typed as quickly as possible, but here is almost word for word what he said.

"Now that we have our iPhone 6s' with incredibly fast Touch ID sensor we can just blow past our notifications on our lock screen and we never get to see them. In iOS 10 we have a great solution, “Raise-to-wake” so now we can see whats on our lock screen without ever touching a button.”

Just as what I said earlier. The solution was Raise to wake. The Rest Finger has absolutely nothing to do with the initial waking of the phone.

Start at 51:10. For whatever reason the Youtube start time link isn't working.

And if you don't like Raise to Wake, then you're screwed. Nice.

I guess the discussion is over. There's nothing I can do about it, but it does seem wrong to me to have it automatically go home when pressing the home button with the screen off.

 

[Mlrollin91]

And if you don't like Raise to Wake, then you're screwed. Nice.

I guess the discussion is over. There's nothing I can do about it, but it does seem wrong to me to have it automatically go home when pressing the home button with the screen off.

Its not that you are screwed, because its no different than the last year of hardware. Its new to you, but for anyone else that had a 6s/6sPlus they already went through the transition period, myself being one of them. You just have to adapt.

 

[circatee]

Curious, but if you press the home button with a finger that ISN'T programmed for fingerprint scanner, it would wake the screen, but NOT take you to the home screen\unlock the device, no?

And if you don't like Raise to Wake, then you're screwed. Nice.

I guess the discussion is over. There's nothing I can do about it, but it does seem wrong to me to have it automatically go home when pressing the home button with the screen off.