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Again, not wanting something is fairly different from just being against it being there at all, especially when it being there wouldn't change anything for someone that doesn't want it or cares about it.
If I don't want something on my phone, I'm by definition against it on my phone.
I buy what matches what I want. Especially if there is a presence of what I want elsewhere.
I LOVE Mini Coopers. But I've got two golden retrievers. And I've got to carry their crates along with family members and sometimes luggage.
If I buy a Mini Cooper, knowing that I have to haul those things, why would I be surprised that I can't use it how I want to? Additionally, why would I want it to be as big as an SUV? It stops being a Mini Cooper.
So, understanding that I've got these things that are important to me, I bought an SUV.
Similarly, I bought my iPhone because it has those features I want. It doesn't support fonts or themes. OK. So I decided fonts and themes were not a requirement and I don't try to impose my desire on others. You don't see me creating a thread demanding fonts and themes. And if someone says they don't care for fonts and themes, I don't try to persuade them that it would be a good thing.
I don't want additional fonts and themes but I'm not against the options for them being there. There's certainly a difference (similar in a sense to the difference between wanting and needing something). One says someone simply doesn't want something (an action without the impact on others), the other says that no one else should have that something because someone doesn't want it (an action with impact on others). In any case, seems like there are more and deeper individual and subjective undertones in play there, so no reason to keep going in circles.
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Very narrow minded perspective from some people here.
I have apple car play in my car. I never use it, don't want it but does that mean I don't buy the car because it came with it?
Of course not. It just sits there unused and maybe someday, someone will use it.
I have apple car play in my car. I never use it, don't want it but does that mean I don't buy the car because it came with it?
Of course not. It just sits there unused and maybe someday, someone will use it.
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Very cool. Thanks for the chat. Enjoy your day.....I'm home on meds with a horrible sinus headache so I'm ODing on forums and romantic comedies.
Hope you feel better.Very cool. Thanks for the chat. Enjoy your day.....I'm home on meds with a horrible sinus headache so I'm ODing on forums and romantic comedies.
Face it - based on Apple's marketing, the iPhone/iOS is designed for a demographic that needs Siri to know whether it's raining outside and eagerly replies to Nigerian bank email scams. Options are a dangerous thing for this demo and Apple wisely gives them few.
You might not want it now or think you may never want it. However you may end up wanting it at some point (I am just speaking about features in general).
Like your car example, you got your SUV cause it suits your needs. A year down the road you need a new fridge and you're like damn, I wish I had a pick up to carry the fridge. The SUV lacked this feature of carrying the fridge. Initially when buying the SUV you didn't want or think you needed a pick up.
Hence it is good to have more features than needed. Since you will never know what the future holds or how it might come in handy at some point. Ever heard the saying "it is better to be over prepared"?
Does having the extra features that you don't use affect usability? No. So what is wrong with having it?
If you had a choice between two of the same model SUV, however one has double the horse power and uses the same amount of gas, oil, etc. By your theory you would opt for the less powerful one because you won't need the extra horsepower. This logic makes no sense to me.
Too bad we couldn't have a mature discussion without the sarcasm and insults.
There's always one.
Your logic would be flawed. I would pick the more powerful of the model of SUV that I was considering because I often go in mild off-road conditions. For that reason, I made sure I had AWD. As far as a truck, I couldn't use one because I would not have enough room inside for dogs and family. So a truck wouldn't do. In addition, the gas mileage for my favourite truck, the Ram 1500, would be prohibitively expensive with my commute.
Therefore, for my needs, an SUV that I could take to the backcountry and the cabin and also do well in city driving was what worked.
In three more years I will trade this SUV for a larger one since I will be working even more days from home.
So I considered those features that were important to me in my consideration of the SUV. And I picked the most powerful one within my price range. Now, having decided, if I started to complain about being unable to haul refrigerators, I would be wrong. Hauling refrigerators was not one of my desired features.
Besides, if I tried to haul a refrigerator I would probably break a nail. That would be tragic. So it's an instant nonstarter.
You are trying to be techinal so let me explain the scenario.
2 suvs, same model, everything is the same except for one has 200hp next has 400hp. Your logic dictates you buy a product based on what you currently need and what you think you need.
You think you need 200 hp so that is what you purchase. However the 400 hp is the same price but you think you don't need all that power so you don't get it.
Let me break it down further. Two new iPhone 7 debuts. One with an LED notification that can be turned off in settings and one without LED notification light at all. Both are the same price and all specs other than LED light is the same, it looks exactly the same..
You don't want an LED light so you buy the one without. Wouldn't it be better to buy the one with the LED light?
That's a bit rich from someone who's contribution to mature discussion starts and ends with "If I don't want it, it shouldn't exist."
Let ME explain. I don't try to be technical about cars or SUVs. I take it for service regularly and pay attention to the dash.
Now let ME explain further.
I once had a choice of a Dakota and a Ram 1500. I needed to haul small groups of livestock to sheepdog trials. I chose the 1500 BECAUSE, although I didn't know the specifics or torque and HP, logic dictated that a Ram would be more powerful than a Dakota. So I chose future proofing for what I knew I would do. Since I knew full well that I would never be carrying 20 heads of cattle, I did not choose a Ram 2500. That would be overkill.
On the iPhone analogy, an LED would NEVER be a deciding factor in favour. So, if all specs are the same, I would pick the one that didn't have the LED. Because I don't want it. NOW, if they want to sell me an identical device WITH an LED that is....say...50 quid more, I'd choose against it. Because I don't want it. Because I don't use it.
Here is the thing. I don't use the LED on my Note 4 or my work SGS5. Why would I want it on my iPhone?
I didn't dish out the kind of insult your tossed out. M'kay?
For reference, this is what you said. Completely unnecessary.
What you fail to grasp with my examples is all variables being constant.
In the SUV vs pick up example all but but one variable is constant. Anyways I think my iPhone 7 example is easier to understand.
So you would spend 700 on an iPhone 7 without an LED light vs 700 on an iPhone 7 which looks exactly the same with an LED light that can be disabled permanently. In my honest opinion this makes no sense at all to me. I am always willing to get more for my money no matter if I will be using it or not.
It is amazing how people can be so against features when it does not affect a product usability.
When iPhone got touch ID many Android users said it was gimmicky and they would never use it. However if you don't like it you can always disable it but still have it just in case.
Same goes with LED. It's better to have it and disable it if you don't want it rather than not have it at all.
But I guess logic does not prevail in biased consumers minds. They will go to all ends to defend the product they purchased.
Now if these features affect usability such as touchwiz and its gimmicks then by all means be agaisnt it.
When iPhone got touch ID many Android users said it was gimmicky and they would never use it. However if you don't like it you can always disable it but still have it just in case.
Same goes with LED. It's better to have it and disable it if you don't want it rather than not have it at all.
But I guess logic does not prevail in biased consumers minds. They will go to all ends to defend the product they purchased.
Now if these features affect usability such as touchwiz and its gimmicks then by all means be agaisnt it.
And what you're not taking into account is that for my use case a truck is not desired. And that's where you and I differ. I don't get what I don't need or want.
This biased consumer currently uses a Lumia 1520, a Note 4, a BlackBerry Passport, a work issued SGS5, and an iPhone 6s Plus.
Where's the bias?
you realize I stopped mentioning the suv example since it is harder to come across in words. It was just to show how a feature you think you will never use might come in handy a year or 2 down the line. I.E. a truck bed for hauling the new fridge.
OK. Let's forget the truck.
I don't use the LED in any of my phones. If I had two identical models one with and one without I would choose the one without. One less thing to possibly go wrong. And something I don't use or want.
I don't use the LED in any of my phones. If I had two identical models one with and one without I would choose the one without. One less thing to possibly go wrong. And something I don't use or want.
To me it comes down to:
1) things i want in my phone
2) things i don't want in my phone
3) things i don't care if the phone has them or not.
All of this is highly subjective and you all didn't take your meds!
Actually I did. I'm on Tylenol extra strength sinus.