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Core 2 Duo MacBook Pros Soon?
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So my Dell's battery light is now blinking constantly. Which means, according to the manual, that it is "defective" and I must contact Dell. I figured buying a MacBook Pro and handing my current laptop down would be pretty easy and painless but now I have to buy a battery.
I just want to get a notebook that works. I am on my last PC ever as of right now. You can quote me on that.
I just want to get a notebook that works. I am on my last PC ever as of right now. You can quote me on that.
DHagan4755 said:My god, he is! It's almost every hour, on the hour! But I betcha he won't be posting as much once he has his Core2 Duo MacBook Pro!
Hehe, if you have been following his postings you will know that he isn't that interested in getting the C2D MBP. Not that he isn't hyped up by the news and stuff, just that even when it's out he wouldn't buy it. Aren't you, more interested in the Quad-Core or the 8-Core thingie that's coming out next year, Multimedia?
Multimedia said:
I'm not saying it's absolutely impossible, but I'd also say that's far from guaranteed. I'm not sure that a better cooling system and new HD bay would be trivial changes.
The one thing that does make me think that a case redesign is possible is that it would partially explain why Apple has been waiting on announcing Core 2 Duo availability. It does seem like if they had nothing planned besides a CPU upgrade, they could have just done it along with the other manufacturers who did the same thing (putting the new chip in existing machines).
-Zadillo
Mothership Takes Priority Over Shuttle For Me
I also need a high-definition video camera more than I need the mobile Mac. So the cheap C2D MacBook looks more attracive because of that as well. And its size may just be the ticket for mobile production work - Mac as portable HDV recorder.
But I am very much excited to see what gets released and happy to hold hands here as I have no life other than sitting here trying to make myself useful for free, as some of you have noticed, 24/7 living the life of an aging early Mac adopter since February 1984.
That's not to say I wouldn't pull the trigger when I see exactly the set of features I want. But partial satisfaction will probably keep me at bay until next Spring. And a C2D MacBook might wind up being my mobile solution once it gets the next gen graphics chipset and a matt screen option.
Yeah it's a money and an I-don't-get-out-much thing. I am very much wanting a certain set of features in a 17" MBP to replace my aging 3-year old - my AppleCare expires this month - 15" 1.25GHz AlPBook. I got spoiled on the Quad G5 and already hit the performance wall due to my strange Multi-Threaded Workload. Knowing the Dual Quad Clovertown 8-core Mac Pro could start shipping as soon as next month, gives me pause to wait on the mobile until after I've secured the mothership of all Mac desktops. I have the money waiting. I need all that power.suwandy said:
I also need a high-definition video camera more than I need the mobile Mac. So the cheap C2D MacBook looks more attracive because of that as well. And its size may just be the ticket for mobile production work - Mac as portable HDV recorder.
But I am very much excited to see what gets released and happy to hold hands here as I have no life other than sitting here trying to make myself useful for free, as some of you have noticed, 24/7 living the life of an aging early Mac adopter since February 1984.
That's not to say I wouldn't pull the trigger when I see exactly the set of features I want. But partial satisfaction will probably keep me at bay until next Spring. And a C2D MacBook might wind up being my mobile solution once it gets the next gen graphics chipset and a matt screen option.
Meh...
**Start RANT**
get a MacBook PRO now. I did last week. Shove 2 Gigs of ram in it and you are set for a few years.
And for those who are waiting for the 64 bit business. Get over it.
Seriously, why would you want to have more than 2 GB OF ram in a notebook.... If you are running out of ram, quit an app. If you need more ram, buy a Mac Pro - they are cheaper anyway.
And as for Core2 duo. How many of you are actually going to use both cores at 100% to actually notice the difference between the yonah and the merom?? Are you the type of person to go around the office getting your mate with the older Macbook pro to encode an identical file in H264 to prove that yours is faster.
You would be nuts trying run processors at 100% on a Notebook all the time. The processors would burn straight thru the casing into a molten blob of silicon and you maybe lucky to get 30 mins of battery life...
**End Rant***
aussie_geek - Happily typing this post on a 1 week old Macbook Pro
**Start RANT**
get a MacBook PRO now. I did last week. Shove 2 Gigs of ram in it and you are set for a few years.
And for those who are waiting for the 64 bit business. Get over it.
Seriously, why would you want to have more than 2 GB OF ram in a notebook.... If you are running out of ram, quit an app. If you need more ram, buy a Mac Pro - they are cheaper anyway.
And as for Core2 duo. How many of you are actually going to use both cores at 100% to actually notice the difference between the yonah and the merom?? Are you the type of person to go around the office getting your mate with the older Macbook pro to encode an identical file in H264 to prove that yours is faster.
You would be nuts trying run processors at 100% on a Notebook all the time. The processors would burn straight thru the casing into a molten blob of silicon and you maybe lucky to get 30 mins of battery life...
**End Rant***
aussie_geek - Happily typing this post on a 1 week old Macbook Pro
I think there must be a case redesign.
Either that or apple is simply not upgrading to merom until next year, which i highly doubt.
The only way i could see apple delaying so long without an adjusted/tweaked design is that they didnt anticipate something when readying the MBP for merom, and now they are working day and night trying to get it done for holiday season.
Again i highly doubt a company like apple would drop the ball in such a way as to overlook something at the design stage, afterall people are paid a lot of money to make sure something like that doesnt happen.
I hope for merom this week, at a long shot this month....
...i dont think i will wait much longer!
Either that or apple is simply not upgrading to merom until next year, which i highly doubt.
The only way i could see apple delaying so long without an adjusted/tweaked design is that they didnt anticipate something when readying the MBP for merom, and now they are working day and night trying to get it done for holiday season.
Again i highly doubt a company like apple would drop the ball in such a way as to overlook something at the design stage, afterall people are paid a lot of money to make sure something like that doesnt happen.
I hope for merom this week, at a long shot this month....
...i dont think i will wait much longer!
aussie_geek said:Meh...
**Start RANT**
get a MacBook PRO now. I did last week. Shove 2 Gigs of ram in it and you are set for a few years.
And for those who are waiting for the 64 bit business. Get over it.
Seriously, why would you want to have more than 2 GB OF ram in a notebook.... If you are running out of ram, quit an app. If you need more ram, buy a Mac Pro - they are cheaper anyway.
And as for Core2 duo. How many of you are actually going to use both cores at 100% to actually notice the difference between the yonah and the merom?? Are you the type of person to go around the office getting your mate with the older Macbook pro to encode an identical file in H264 to prove that yours is faster.
You would be nuts trying run processors at 100% on a Notebook all the time. The processors would burn straight thru the casing into a molten blob of silicon and you maybe lucky to get 30 mins of battery life...
**End Rant***
aussie_geek - Happily typing this post on a 1 week old Macbook Pro
I agree with a lot of what you are saying...
aussie_geek said:Meh...
**Start RANT**
get a MacBook PRO now. I did last week. Shove 2 Gigs of ram in it and you are set for a few years.
And for those who are waiting for the 64 bit business. Get over it.
Seriously, why would you want to have more than 2 GB OF ram in a notebook.... If you are running out of ram, quit an app. If you need more ram, buy a Mac Pro - they are cheaper anyway.
And as for Core2 duo. How many of you are actually going to use both cores at 100% to actually notice the difference between the yonah and the merom?? Are you the type of person to go around the office getting your mate with the older Macbook pro to encode an identical file in H264 to prove that yours is faster.
You would be nuts trying run processors at 100% on a Notebook all the time. The processors would burn straight thru the casing into a molten blob of silicon and you maybe lucky to get 30 mins of battery life...
**End Rant***
aussie_geek - Happily typing this post on a 1 week old Macbook Pro
I get what you're saying, however the focus has changed from 32bit vs 64bit to getting the most bang for your buck.
At this time, paying for a macbook pro with a 32bit processor is overpaying for outdated hardware. Why should I drop $2500 now (on a 15 incher), when I can pay the same for a 64bit version in a few weeks?
It doesn't make much sense, unless I'm getting a kick-ass deal on the current one. And I don't count the refurb discount a kick-ass deal.
aussie_geek said:Meh...
**Start RANT**
get a MacBook PRO now. I did last week. Shove 2 Gigs of ram in it and you are set for a few years.
And for those who are waiting for the 64 bit business. Get over it.
Seriously, why would you want to have more than 2 GB OF ram in a notebook.... If you are running out of ram, quit an app. If you need more ram, buy a Mac Pro - they are cheaper anyway.
And as for Core2 duo. How many of you are actually going to use both cores at 100% to actually notice the difference between the yonah and the merom?? Are you the type of person to go around the office getting your mate with the older Macbook pro to encode an identical file in H264 to prove that yours is faster.
You would be nuts trying run processors at 100% on a Notebook all the time. The processors would burn straight thru the casing into a molten blob of silicon and you maybe lucky to get 30 mins of battery life...
**End Rant***
aussie_geek - Happily typing this post on a 1 week old Macbook Pro
While I agree with your remarks in general, I am in a situation where I am going to be working here and in the UK on a long term project. If I were only working from stateside, it woudl be easy to go pick up a macpro and load it and use my iBook G4 for my mobile needs. But I really need something I can take back and forth that will let me run a lot of the analysis on it. The software I use can make use of both cores and performance is dependent on how much data I can keep in RAM, so for me, extra RAM would be helpful. And being able to use 64-bit computing will increase the speed at which I can get my work done. But I admit, I'm not in the norm here.
cheers.
In The Norm? Oh Yeah That's Us. We Are All Very Much In The Norm.
Just a small clarification dkoralek. I can assure you that NO ONE HERE is "in the norm".dkoralek said:
aussie_geek said:
Because you can.
That's right.
Who are you to tell me what to and what not to do? What gives Apple's marketers the gall to impose such artificial restrictions on us? Considering I can already do it with their competitors products that costs half as much?
Multimedia said:
I am skeptical about the black anodized finish. As a Pro machine it will match the Pro harware, namely the Mac Pro and the displays. Pro machines are way too serious for colors
Of course the Al PM G5s came out alongside the plasticy ADC displays, which was a glaring mistmatch...Seriously, put out a BlackBookPro and soon the masses will be agitating for a black display to run alongside the BBP. A lone black Pro machine along with brushed Al Pro machines and displays doesn't quite fit the Apple model.
There's A Longer Battery Life Case For 2GB RAM And No More
The Mobile Mac
Better Laptop Performance: What's the Best Upgrade?
by Andrew Fishkin today
"Imagine that you could stuff 8 GB of RAM into your portable, however. In that case, you would be supplying power to keep data in those chips, but since you were only using 1-2 GB of RAM anyway, you would no longer be preventing hard drive swaps, and thus your batteries would run down sooner than on a 2 GB machine."
From:generik said:
The Mobile Mac
Better Laptop Performance: What's the Best Upgrade?
by Andrew Fishkin today
"Imagine that you could stuff 8 GB of RAM into your portable, however. In that case, you would be supplying power to keep data in those chips, but since you were only using 1-2 GB of RAM anyway, you would no longer be preventing hard drive swaps, and thus your batteries would run down sooner than on a 2 GB machine."
why do we have 2 threads on the same thing?
why do we have 2 threads on the same thing? why dont we all stay on the Full Laptop Refresh By Holidays Thread because its been around longer. It's here: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2927946#post2927946
why do we have 2 threads on the same thing? why dont we all stay on the Full Laptop Refresh By Holidays Thread because its been around longer. It's here: https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2927946#post2927946
macman2790 said:
I think it is so cute how some users try and regulate happenings on the MR forums.
you know i almost prefer the MBP's to come out later than earlier.
looking at it this way... if the MBP's come out at the end of October/early November, it'd be 10 months since the Rev. A MBP's were announced, and I doubt MBP's would be upgraded at MWSF (2 months after), which would be nice of course. A 1 year delay between upgrading MBP's means higher resale value for MBP owners (it's not always being refreshed), and surely would mean a case redesign or something spectacular.
Then again, Santa Rosa is slated for April 2007. Looking at its specs, it seems perfect for Macbook with its integrated graphics. Apple just wouldn't upgrade Macbooks with the Santa Rosa platform without upgrading the MBP as well.
And also, benchmarks between Core Duo and Core2Duo show that the upgrade isn't very significant. (especially with games -- practically 0% increase at all).
looking at it this way... if the MBP's come out at the end of October/early November, it'd be 10 months since the Rev. A MBP's were announced, and I doubt MBP's would be upgraded at MWSF (2 months after), which would be nice of course. A 1 year delay between upgrading MBP's means higher resale value for MBP owners (it's not always being refreshed), and surely would mean a case redesign or something spectacular.
Then again, Santa Rosa is slated for April 2007. Looking at its specs, it seems perfect for Macbook with its integrated graphics. Apple just wouldn't upgrade Macbooks with the Santa Rosa platform without upgrading the MBP as well.
And also, benchmarks between Core Duo and Core2Duo show that the upgrade isn't very significant. (especially with games -- practically 0% increase at all).
same here i think i'm going to wait it out and get a used ibook g4 until santa rosa, since i'll be a switcher. I can't wait to switch.NewSc2 said: