#21
Oh, gee, lookee... yet ANOTHER The iPad Isn’t a Real Computer™ until it has mouse support/a real file system/makes my coffee thread.
#24
I can’t use touchscreen on a Macbook, so under this logic it has limited usefulness as well.
#28
This.
#58
The iPad Needs to be Just Like a Laptop tomfoolery keeps on going and going...
#80
Why don’t you, then, define what you think an iPad’s purpose is instead of snarking at the post and asking the OP to explain himself to YOU.
And it’s ludicrous to even silently suggest that the OP was arguing the merit of a mouse. Of COURSE it is a “superior form of input” and has been for about 40 years—but only so FOR THE DEVICE OF WHICH A MOUSE IS INTENDED. An iPad doesn’t need a mouse because an iPad already has a GUI that is built for touch and stylus, therefore a mouse is not detrimental to an iPad’s functionality.
#92
O. M. G.
MODS: Can we combine this thread here as well?
#96
Hmmm... less than 1% of the world uses Photoshop on their Macs, less than 0.1% of the world uses Final Cut Pro and/or XCode, and another 0.001% uses Terminal for command-line prompts. If those 1.11% of the world find that so important, get a dedicated device for those purposes. For the other 98.89% of the world, the iPad works just frickin’ fine. So if that qualifies the iPad a “paperweight,” bring on the gale. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Apparently you have no idea what an iPad’s purpose is or else you would’ve explained that instead of spending your time with this pointless drivel. No offense taken, dude.
And this argument just keeps going, and going, and going... “the iPad should serve the miniscule needs to serve the billions...” LOL!!!
#92
Apparently you have no idea what an iPad’s purpose is or else you would’ve explained that instead of spending your time with this pointless drivel. No offense taken, dude.
And this argument just keeps going, and going, and going... “the iPad should serve the miniscule needs to serve the billions...” LOL!!!
#209
The fact that you wrote this shows me that you have no idea how to use an iPad or have never used one at all. You can already use a hardware keyboard with an iPad. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#213
You are in such a small minority, fortunately, and that’s the way it is and the way it will be. You’re missing the forest for the trees—or, in this case, a tiny sapling.
Exactly! +1
#227
IPad has had cursor selection for text selection since copy/paste was introduced. The fact that Apple included the capability to move a cursor to navigate around text in a virtual keyboard doesn’t go against “touch only” because you can only do so on screen, nor is that the argument people are making. People are suggesting that the addition of a physical piece of hardware, such as a mouse, is anything from a “nice add” to “absolutely critical.”
#229
I completely get where you’re going, but the keyboard and pencil are not *necessary* pieces of hardware, just “nice to haves” if one wants them. It’s not critical for someone traveling, for instance, to bring these peripherals to use every function on the iPad.
However, if a mouse is integrated, some apps can then become necessary just like macOS apps.CIf Apple felt that they should approve iOS apps for mouse support, why not just slap macOS on a tablet and be done with it. A mouse is essential to macOS software vs. a “nice to have” on iOS, as some here argue. A physical keyboard on macOS is an essential; not so on iOS.
I tried once to put OS10.X on a Mac Mini with a Planar touchscreen, and all I can tell you is that macOS with touch SUCKS, so selling contradicting hardware would drive Apple’s marketing department @_@.
#231
So, macOS on a single pane of glass. No, not necessary to be a “laptop replacement.” This would only be a laptop “replacement” in your current mode of thought.
#236
Yes. “When” you need something isn’t the same as “as” you need it. Thus, the point of an iPad vs. a macOS device. This is the essence of the “iPad Isn’t a Laptop Replacemnt” debate.
#238
I suspect the thread will keep going, because Apple will never do that!!!
At least I hope not!!
EDIT: I think Apple WILL release apps on macOS that don’t require mouse input on macOS. Then, the blurring of OS’s occurs. But it won’t be because iOS requires macOS input at all costs, but vice-versa.
#304
Agreed! I suggested that about 200 posts ago to no avail.
#314
Apple never said that touchscreen “[doesn’t[ belong on laptops.” I specifically remember an interview from years past in which Ive and team tested the feasibility of touch screens on macOS devices, and found the experience with macOS isn’t practical. I can attest to this as I’ve tried it myself.
In that vein, I would bet the farm that Apple tested mouse support for iOS and found it to not be a great user experience for iOS devices.
Also worth a read to rebut your assertion:
So, no, Apple isn’t “wrong” and I disagree with you because the premise of your response is inaccurate.
#314
A Touch Bar vs. adding touch to a laptop screen is an apples to oranges comparison to the point of this thread. (Even in that regard, I wouldn’t classify that as a “compromise” either).
There have been plenty of arguments against adding a mouse, in this thread and elsewhere that are perfectly logical and proper for the purpose of iOS. If you can’t see that, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
#327
It wouldn’t change a thing for 99% of iPad users, so this won’t happen.
#331
I’ve already made the case throughout this thread.
#335
You’re right, less than 1% of people need those bulletin points. And I’m sure less than 1% of people in the market for an iPad will buy any of those things. (Actually 0% have full Photoshop right now, but that’s besides the point.) I contend that no one who doesn’t need a maxed iPad will spend that kind of money to get it. Even if I concede that 25% of maxed-Pro users care to have a mouse, that’s one-half of one-half of one percent.
So, no, Apple won’t add mouse support across every iOS device just for that small percentage. Same reason they won’t add touch support to a macOS device. So once more, you can use an iPad without a mouse/trackpad. You CAN’T use a macOS device without a mouse/trackpad. That’s my case to you.
#337
I just replied. Your reply indicates you won’t don’t want to bother to absorb my other posts because they won’t fit your agenda, and you’d rather ask me to repeat myself, to which you won’t agree either.
If you need more clarification, I can’t help you.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
