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Dell P2715Q and P2415Q 4K IPS Displays
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Hi guys, been searchin through the web for some relevant info about those two slick monitors.
I am torned between P2415Q and P2715Q, and trying to make my mind finally.
I am a heavy user of rMBP "13 and I strictly demand the same (or better) IQ on my workstation (Hackintosh packed with better than iMac 5k goodies). That's why I am scared that taking a 27" version and running it on a 1.2-1.5 scaled mode (or forcing it to 1440p HiDPI) won't bring such great quality like "true" @2 retina quality of P2415Q at 1080p HiDPI. However, the 24" seems to be a bit too small for my needs (video and photo editing + lots of graphic design).
I could really use an opinion of an owner of these two.
I am torned between P2415Q and P2715Q, and trying to make my mind finally.
I am a heavy user of rMBP "13 and I strictly demand the same (or better) IQ on my workstation (Hackintosh packed with better than iMac 5k goodies). That's why I am scared that taking a 27" version and running it on a 1.2-1.5 scaled mode (or forcing it to 1440p HiDPI) won't bring such great quality like "true" @2 retina quality of P2415Q at 1080p HiDPI. However, the 24" seems to be a bit too small for my needs (video and photo editing + lots of graphic design).
I could really use an opinion of an owner of these two.
i too use a rmbp 13, and the pixel density of the 24" running at hidpi 1080p works very nice. the 24" will yield the closest to retina iq. (for text anyway)
sorry, just re read your post, unfortunately i only have the 24"...
The size trade-off between the 24" or the 27" is a decision each individual person will have to make. No one can tell them what is best for them.
If you want more PPI, "smaller text," and an overall smaller footprint, then the 24" is great for you. And you want to spend less money.
If you want to give up a little bit of PPI, and you can or need to deal with text a little bit larger, and you don't mind having a larger, heavier monitor, then the 27" is better for you. And you can afford the larger monitor.
So each has pluses and minuses, and to each person these are more or less important, depending on their personal preferences and budget.
Neither the footprint nor the price tag matters for me in this case.
As I said I would like to know if some of you guys can tell the viewable difference between sitting in front of rMBP 13", 1080p hidpi 24" Dell and scaled (1.2-1.5x) 27".
Maybe describing my workflow can help.
I am mainly dealing with Adobe CS apps (+lightroom), iWork and iawriter during my workflow.
I also do some intense gaming since my SLI'd 780Ti's can provide decent power.
Bottom line: Is this Asus monitor any better?
As I said I would like to know if some of you guys can tell the viewable difference between sitting in front of rMBP 13", 1080p hidpi 24" Dell and scaled (1.2-1.5x) 27".
Maybe describing my workflow can help.
I am mainly dealing with Adobe CS apps (+lightroom), iWork and iawriter during my workflow.
I also do some intense gaming since my SLI'd 780Ti's can provide decent power.
Bottom line: Is this Asus monitor any better?
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I use the 13" rMBP and I have this 27" monitor.
So far no one has been able to force the late 2013 13" to run 1440p HiDPI, only 1080p HiDPI (with the help of SwitchResX, at 51mhz).
Only the nMP, riMac and 15" (with 750gt) have been able to. I am not sure why (probably the lack of dedicated graphics chip) but I wouldn't count on running it at that resolution with a 13" rMBP.
As I mentioned before, I will use this monitor on my hackintosh workstation.
Since I own a great U2414H Dell monitor I consider a P2415Q a smaller upgrade than P2715Q, so I think I will go for the 27" one.
Screen shots attached. $570-$57=$513.
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I signed up through my credit union but can also sign up via AARP. Click through to find discounts, basically a sale price for "members" to which just about anyone in the US can join.
Dell advertised an outlet coupon for 10% off Dell-branded monitors that worked for my purchase. Found the coupon code on Slickdeals (see the previous link).
You could have clicked on the Slickdeals link above and drilled up to see other "member" prices, including the monitor you're asking about here.
Keep in mind that these member prices are also in flux. The P2415Q wasn't on sale, and then it was (and still is).
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I just got a couple of the P2715Q's and they're awesome! My '13 Mac Pro's D300s handle them great. Only had them for a week so far, but I'll never buy a non-4K/retina screen ever again.
Today, one of them didn't wake from sleep when I got home from work. It was the secondary display (I want to keep track if it's only one that's doing it, assuming this happens again). I had disabled DDC/CI when I first set them up (and I checked the settings immediately afterward. I had to unplug it - the power button was frozen in the "on" position. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a weekly thing or it will be fixed.
Other than that, the screen looks great, the anti-glare coating is the perfect amount IMHO. Colors and brightness seem really good.
Today, one of them didn't wake from sleep when I got home from work. It was the secondary display (I want to keep track if it's only one that's doing it, assuming this happens again). I had disabled DDC/CI when I first set them up (and I checked the settings immediately afterward. I had to unplug it - the power button was frozen in the "on" position. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a weekly thing or it will be fixed.
Other than that, the screen looks great, the anti-glare coating is the perfect amount IMHO. Colors and brightness seem really good.
Got my first wake from sleep issue yesterday.
unplugged the monitor cable or something. no big deal to me.
dozens of hours of retina for a quick cable unplug.
have no doubt this will be fixed in the next round of apple 4k monitor updates.
still love this thing. my second one came in friday. took it to my girlfriends. looks just as good as my home one.
She is going to use it with her PC in (ahhhhhhh 1920 x x blown up mode.) she loves it that way. no worries.
she's happy, i'm happy.
peace.
unplugged the monitor cable or something. no big deal to me.
dozens of hours of retina for a quick cable unplug.
have no doubt this will be fixed in the next round of apple 4k monitor updates.
still love this thing. my second one came in friday. took it to my girlfriends. looks just as good as my home one.
She is going to use it with her PC in (ahhhhhhh 1920 x x blown up mode.) she loves it that way. no worries.
she's happy, i'm happy.
peace.
After using these monitors for two months now, I'm seeing that wake from sleep is still a periodic issue. Turning DDC off did seem to solve the problem, but I am still seeing it from time to time. Rather than unplug and replug the monitors each time, which is the only way to recover from it if it happens, I simply plugged them into a small power strip and toggle the switch on the power strip when it occurs. This is the only problem I've had with these but it's a legit issue that people should be aware of.
Yeah, I've seen this issue twice in as many months.
The bigger issue I'm having (which is not specific to these Dell displays) is that no photo editing software performs well when trying to update 8Mpx in real time. Just poor coding I suspect since 3D games can update this many pixels at 30fps+. Living on the bleeding edge can be bloody sometimes
The bigger issue I'm having (which is not specific to these Dell displays) is that no photo editing software performs well when trying to update 8Mpx in real time. Just poor coding I suspect ...
I am using a rMBP (15", late 2013, full fat!); I use Lightroom and Photoshop CC under Mac Yosemite, and MS Office under Parallels VM with Windows 7.
Are there any scaling issues I need to be aware of and take action on? Should I move to Windows 8.1 for instance?
Hugh
Move to Windows? LOL... you're on the wrong site for that.
Anyway, I find doing adjustments on my 5D Mark III RAW images a bit slow in some RAW conversion apps... Here's what I observed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX7urEQhzM8
I should add, that resizing the window to something more akin to 1440p would result in much better performance. It's only when you're running at full 4K where these apps tend to bog down.
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Windows 8.1 handles 4K monitors HORRIBLY, FYI. I tried out my Dell P2715Q with a Windows machine, and it's very bad in Windows. OS X really nailed it.
I am curious what was handled "HORRIBLY". I have a P2415Q hooked up to 8.1 as well and find it quite good. I also have an Windows 8.1 Fusion VM on my riMac 5k running in HiDPI and again can't find anything I would consider horrible. For me yes, OS X handles HiDPI displays very nicely, however everything ( almost ) is scaled, in Windows i.e. 8.1 desktop is not, so it's a bit different. I'm my opinion it's still quite useable.
But that's just it... It isn't scaled properly. You can increase the size of some things, but then have tiny text on others... and legacy programs look "fuzzy".
It's badly done.
Usable, maybe.
Move to Windows? LOL... you're on the wrong site for that.
Anyway, I find doing adjustments on my 5D Mark III RAW images a bit slow in some RAW conversion apps... Here's what I observed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX7urEQhzM8
I should add, that resizing the window to something more akin to 1440p would result in much better performance. It's only when you're running at full 4K where these apps tend to bog down.
That's disappointing, since with Apple's ending support I've been preparing to make the switch from Aperture to Lightroom.
You mention that things run faster at 1440p. Is that with OS X HiDPI scaling enabled with a 1440 apparent resolution, or just upsizing a non-HiDPI 1440 image to the screen?
P2415Q on sale today for $479.99 if anyone is looking to buy....
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=860-BBFF
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=860-BBFF
Hey Guys,
Thinking of grabbing 2x P2415Q for use with my mid-2014 rMBP 15" (Integrated GPU).
I am hoping to use it in a HiDPI Scaled Mode, just like I do with my rMBP screen today.
Thoughts? Will I be able to power both of these things with my laptop?
Thinking of grabbing 2x P2415Q for use with my mid-2014 rMBP 15" (Integrated GPU).
I am hoping to use it in a HiDPI Scaled Mode, just like I do with my rMBP screen today.
Thoughts? Will I be able to power both of these things with my laptop?
You should be able to do that with SwitchResX. I'm using a late 2013 rMBP without the GPU, and I'm driving a P2715Q at HiDPI 3840x2160 and an LG 34" at 3440x1440 HiDPI also.