dell released their newest ultrasharp model ,U2723QE, U3223QE ultrasharp monitor

[greenbreadmmm]

Your unfortunately correct, i am blind

Yeah it’s a bummer. Really wanted g-sync feature.

 

[joevt]

If there's an HBR3 x2 limit and you have a source limited to HBR2 then an external DisplayPort 1.4 MST Hub may help #12

 

[5425642]

So I have done a profile for it now;
You can download the .icc file here and then use it in your own system on the display.
On the display you need to set it like this:
Contrast: 75%
Custom Color -> Present mode
R: 100%
G: 95%
B: 99%

 

[stuff99]

Here are some pictures. look stunning and super-thin bezel (last pic) and no gaps. Picture looks great, text seems sharp to me, videos are crisp. Will do more tests later or tomorrow. So far very happy to have it. Using 75% contrast and brightness by default and looks great.

Apologies, as am using iPhone X, and the lighting is not great.

Which vesa mount is this?

 

[5425642]

My A00 unit is also a lot warmer than my A01 - easily 500K+ difference. Something definitely changed. I don't think they were honest in saying there is no functional change and just regulatory change.

That's not a issue as all displays needs to be calibrated to work perfectly.

Take a look at my post here:

dell released their newest ultrasharp model ,U2723QE, U3223QE ultrasharp monitor

So I have done a profile for it now; You can download the .icc file here and then use it in your own system on the display. On the display you need to set it like this: Contrast: 75% Custom Color -> Present mode R: 100% G: 95% B: 99%

forums.macrumors.com

I got a A00 , the change here is not function wise, maybe it's just better calibrated from the factory. I don't think it's any difference in the panel or similar.
If you own your own colorimeter like I do it's a none issue as you can just calibrate it.

Also contrast should be at 75% otherwise you will break the greyscale.

 

[5425642]

Hi,
I have updated a blogpost with calibration reports and multiple .icc files m.m. Try it out and write back what you think about it.
I have just adjusted the brightness level for every .icc file as the RGB adjustment that you need to do first is good for all of the brightness levels.

Dell U2723QE Calibration information

Wow, this display are so good! I have calibrated it and I have uploaded the .icc profiles here also. Only thing that I have changed during the different profiles are the brightness level. My setup …

www.keepcodeopen.com

 

[RaceTripper]

Thanks to everyone for your input and participation. I’ve read thru the entire thread (not that I can claim 100% comprehension and retention of it all, or even close).

I have a 14” M1 Max MacBook Pro and still wonder what’s my best option for connecting both. I run my MBP in clamshell mode and only use the two monitors. I’m not fussed about running two cables from my MBP if that’s the best option, but daisy chain would be nice if it can work. I’m retiring two crappy $150 1080p monitors.

FWIW: I’m a software engineer and that’s about all I am going to use the laptop and monitors for (I have a 2021 12.9 iPad Pro for watching video and stuff). So I’m really most interested in what will look best for colored text on black background (I run IntelliJ IDEA in Darkula mode), especially for my 64 yr old eyes. I’ll probably retire in a year or so but wanted something nice for my last hurrah. The vast majority of my work will be in IntelliJ IDEA and Terminal.

 

[umbilical]

 

[5425642]

Thanks to everyone for your input and participation. I’ve read thru the entire thread (not that I can claim 100% comprehension and retention of it all, or even close).

I have a 14” M1 Max MacBook Pro and still wonder what’s my best option for connecting both. I run my MBP in clamshell mode and only use the two monitors. I’m not fussed about running two cables from my MBP if that’s the best option, but daisy chain would be nice if it can work. I’m retiring two crappy $150 1080p monitors.

FWIW: I’m a software engineer and that’s about all I am going to use the laptop and monitors for (I have a 2021 12.9 iPad Pro for watching video and stuff). So I’m really most interested in what will look best for colored text on black background (I run IntelliJ IDEA in Darkula mode), especially for my 64 yr old eyes. I’ll probably retire in a year or so but wanted something nice for my last hurrah. The vast majority of my work will be in IntelliJ IDEA and Terminal.

I have the same MBP (you can se my post above with settings in the link) and I'm a developer this display works super with terminal, powershell, vscode etc. And ofc as a developer I'm running dark mode all the time and everything works perfect

 

[chekie]

That's not a issue as all displays needs to be calibrated to work perfectly.

Take a look at my post here:

dell released their newest ultrasharp model ,U2723QE, U3223QE ultrasharp monitor

So I have done a profile for it now; You can download the .icc file here and then use it in your own system on the display. On the display you need to set it like this: Contrast: 75% Custom Color -> Present mode R: 100% G: 95% B: 99%

forums.macrumors.com

I got a A00 , the change here is not function wise, maybe it's just better calibrated from the factory. I don't think it's any difference in the panel or similar.
If you own your own colorimeter like I do it's a none issue as you can just calibrate it.

Also contrast should be at 75% otherwise you will break the greyscale.

Appreciate you sharing the calibration result. But not sure if we can use it directly without colorimeter. If every monitor needs to be individually calibrated to work properly, using icc file from calibration of a different monitor might make the colors worse.

Also, if A01 is calibrated to colder temperature that's closer to 6500K than A00 on average, that's still a functional change to me

 

[5425642]

Appreciate you sharing the calibration result. But not sure if we can use it directly without colorimeter. If every monitor needs to be individually calibrated to work properly, using icc file from calibration of a different monitor might make the colors worse.

Also, if A01 is calibrated to colder temperature that's closer to 6500K than A00 on average, that's still a functional change to me

It don’t harm to try the icc files you can delete them after if they don’t work.

The change of the factory calibration are not a hardware change or similar.
It might even not be like that either as every display are calibrated different from the factory as long as the display are within the manufacture tolerance.

If you want a perfect display from factory you need to look after displays that guarantee that. Like the lg ultra fine they say all will be under deltae 5. Asus pro art are promecing that it will be under deltae 2

 

[RaceTripper]

It don’t harm to try the icc files you can delete them after if they don’t work.

The change of the factory calibration are not a hardware change or similar.
It might even not be like that either as every display are calibrated different from the factory as long as the display are within the manufacture tolerance.

If you want a perfect display from factory you need to look after displays that guarantee that. Like the lg ultra fine they say all will be under deltae 5. Asus pro art are promecing that it will be under deltae 2

I thought the Dell Ultrasharp U2723QE are factory calibrated. Are they that bad out of the box they need to be calibrated, if one isn't doing graphic/video work? I just care about text editing and browsing.

 

[milliways15]

I have a couple of these displays now, and calibrated them for photography work. The difference between pre and post-calibration is pretty minor; it would make a difference when I'm editing photos, but the quality was already great pre-calibration, and it'd be hard to notice if you're using it primarily for text and web browsing.

 

[RaceTripper]

I have a couple of these displays now, and calibrated them for photography work. The difference between pre and post-calibration is pretty minor; it would make a difference when I'm editing photos, but the quality was already great pre-calibration, and it'd be hard to notice if you're using it primarily for text and web browsing.

OK, thank you. I don't think I will fuss with anything beyond the default profile. I'll what I do with scaling once I have them sited.

 

[5425642]

I have a couple of these displays now, and calibrated them for photography work. The difference between pre and post-calibration is pretty minor; it would make a difference when I'm editing photos, but the quality was already great pre-calibration, and it'd be hard to notice if you're using it primarily for text and web browsing.

That’s correct beside the P3 settings in the display as it shows to much green for me it did anyway.
sRGB etc profiles looks good I guess. As I have been calibrating my displays since 2009 I can see difference but as you say an”normal” person will not.

Edit;
The pre calibration is around delta e 5 if I do remember correctly.

 

[5425642]

OK, thank you. I don't think I will fuss with anything beyond the default profile. I'll what I do with scaling once I have them sited.

Just change it to sRGB or similar in the OSD and choose the one that works for you. It’s fine. It’s not announced as calibrated after sRGB standard from the factory.
It’s not many displays that are that either. They says they are but if they don’t guarantee deltae under 2 then it’s just marketing.

I have looked a little and it’s so state ;
Delta E < 2 (Average) for sRGB, Rec.709, DCI-P3

This is if you download the icc profile from dells webpage.
I’ll try to find the time to do some readings with my colormeter to confirm that.
I did not receive any certification or similar in the box as I use to with displays that are stating that them are factory calibrated.

My display are showing to much green and that’s a fact. But I don’t have the icc from dell either so that icc profile might fix that.

 

[RaceTripper]

Just change it to sRGB or similar in the OSD and choose the one that works for you. It’s fine. It’s not announced as calibrated after sRGB standard from the factory.
It’s not many displays that are that either. They says they are but if they don’t guarantee deltae under 2 then it’s just marketing.

I have looked a little and it’s so state ;
Delta E < 2 (Average) for sRGB, Rec.709, DCI-P3

This is if you download the icc profile from dells webpage.
I’ll try to find the time to do some readings with my colormeter to confirm that.
I did not receive any certification or similar in the box as I use to with displays that are stating that them are factory calibrated.

My display are showing to much green and that’s a fact. But I don’t have the icc from dell either so that icc profile might fix that.

Thanks for the advice. I’ll be after whatever looks best to me in my development IDE (which I run in dark mode). I won’t get too fussy about it beyond that. I have an iPad Pro 12.9 (or I can use my M1 MBP display) for video and such. My Dell order is in production and due to ship sometime next week.

 

[RaceTripper]

I’m also thinking about getting a VESA mount on the back of my desk (it’s 1/4” glass), to mount the two displays and dispense with the stands. Any recommendations? I don’t have a budget, and willing to get spendy if there’s a compelling reason for it (i.e. functional, not coolness).

 

[5425642]

I’m also thinking about getting a VESA mount on the back of my desk (it’s 1/4” glass), to mount the two displays and dispense with the stands. Any recommendations? I don’t have a budget, and willing to get spendy if there’s a compelling reason for it (i.e. functional, not coolness).

I can now confirm that if you change to sRGB or rec709 you will get everything under deltae 2 with the factory icc. You can download it from dells support page.

I did also try it with apples default and it was also good.

The p3 mode and all of the other ones was way off!

I’ll return my as my contrast ratio was only 1300-1400 and dell was stating that it was 2000.
Maybe I have a bad example I don’t know. I might try an other one

 

[RabidMacFan]

I’m also thinking about getting a VESA mount on the back of my desk (it’s 1/4” glass), to mount the two displays and dispense with the stands. Any recommendations? I don’t have a budget, and willing to get spendy if there’s a compelling reason for it (i.e. functional, not coolness).

The vesa monitor mounts sold by monoprice are the exact same as ones highly recommended on other sites, but cost half as much.

 

[RabidMacFan]

I can now confirm that if you change to sRGB or rec709 you will get everything under deltae 2 with the factory icc. You can download it from dells support page.

I did also try it with apples default and it was also good.

The p3 mode and all of the other ones was way off!

I’ll return my as my contrast ratio was only 1300-1400 and dell was stating that it was 2000.
Maybe I have a bad example I don’t know. I might try an other one

You seem pretty knowledgeable in your gear settings. Can you clear something up for me? If I want sRGB, do I set it on both the monitor settings AND the color profile in MacOS? Or leave the monitor as standard and only change in MacOS? Or leave as default in MacOS and only change on the monitor?

Same question for Display P3. Thanks.

 

[5425642]

You seem pretty knowledgeable in your gear settings. Can you clear something up for me? If I want sRGB, do I set it on both the monitor settings AND the color profile in MacOS? Or leave the monitor as standard and only change in MacOS? Or leave as default in MacOS and only change on the monitor?

Same question for Display P3. Thanks.

According to my test with my colormeter it won’t matter much but if you download the icc profile from dell and then set your display in the osd to the same the result are the best. That’s correct.
Only change the britghenss nothing else

 

[vddobrev]

I am just back from shopping, and picked up the Dell U3223QE. Was deciding between the Dell and the Apple Studio Display, which I saw in person and was not impressed. It is the same old 5K iMac panel, that I sold back in 2017 because it was like a mirror, and went with a Dell 4K P2715Q with matte screen. So upgrading to a 32" 4K.

I am using it with my Intel Mac mini 2018.

In my own opinion, the Dell U3223QE beats the Apple Studio Display hands down on all counts except resolution and brightness. I chose the Dell U3223QE because:

- Matte screen
- Bigger than the ASD
- Way cheaper, in local currency, it was 1950 vs 4999
- Multiple inputs - DP, USB-C, HDMI - I can plugin my Mac mini, and my work laptop
- USB-C hub (unbelievable, I plugged in all my peripherals, and still have one USB-A and one USB-C free)
- Tilt, height, and swivel adjustable stand included in the price
- Minimal basels, far narrower than the Apple display
- No fans in the display (to suck in dust). Coming from an iMac that developed the infamous stain-gate in the lower corners of the display.
- At 32", full 4K resolution seems perfect, and 1:1 pixel mapping is less taxing on the GPU
- Sitting 80cm form the display, I do not see pixels, so this is retina to me.
- 400 nits is plenty for me don't care for more, neither HDR.

My display is manufactured in November 2021, RevA00. I do not see any back light bleed, there is none. There is IPS glow, but that is natural and expected for this technology. I tried to take a picture in total darkness, but it comes soooo overblown, like all 4 corners of the display seem so bright... Now I know that all pics posted are just an exaggeration, the display looks completely dark and uniform in total darkens (excluding the unavoidable IPS glow).

Colours look perfect to me, but I am not a phot/video person, I am a software developer, and I don't care about color profiles, I just use the Standard setting, and brightness adjustment.

This display is a keeper, I am so glad I compared it to the Apple Studio Display and picked the Dell.

 

[chekie]

...
- At 32", full 4K resolution seems perfect, and 1:1 pixel mapping is less taxing on the GPU
- Sitting 80cm form the display, I do not see pixels, so this is retina to me.
...

You've got some eagle eyes man. I use a 4K 27" scaled to 1440p. I still feel sometimes the texts are too small to read from 75~80 cm distance. 50cm would be a perfect distance for me in this situation. But I want some space in front the monitor so I can write from time to time. Eventually I choose to scale to 2304x1296.

 

[RaceTripper]

The vesa monitor mounts sold by monoprice are the exact same as ones highly recommended on other sites, but cost half as much.

Yes, thank you. My first thought was to see what Monoprice has.