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Markyboy81

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Viewing 4k video on the newly announced note 10.1 will be an improvement, not quite 4k but better than full hd. Having said that I don't think 4k televisions will be worth it unless you live in a cinema. I 'only' have a 32" 1080p tv and to be honest I can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p unless I move close.
 

sumsingwong

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Viewing 4k video on the newly announced note 10.1 will be an improvement, not quite 4k but better than full hd. Having said that I don't think 4k televisions will be worth it unless you live in a cinema. I 'only' have a 32" 1080p tv and to be honest I can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p unless I move close.

The new Note 10.1 is going to have the same resolution as my N10. Display is beautiful when viewing high res photos but it will not play 4k video files at greater than 1 fps. It's just a slideshow at that point. Maybe the new Note 10.1 will have a better SoC to handle that. We'll see.
 

Technarchy

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Well, getting back to the topic, the Gear looks clunky at best and it highlights Samsung's lack of design finesse. I think that far from handing Apple's its hat, Samsung has handed Apple an opportunity. I guess we'll see on the 10th, when Apple announces new products.

If Apple is doing a watch, they will go out of their way for it to be industry defining and disruptive to the current smartphone industry. Like the iPad, iPhone, iPod and MacBook Air.

Apple won't do anything expected when it comes to wear-ables

Samsung's effort really does seem like an anti litigation measure more than something they really want to get behind at this time. Like a bare minimum endeavor to get ahead of Apple and help their legal team when Apple sues them for patent infringement in a couple of years
 

BJonson

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The iPhone 5S won't need 3 GB of RAM. Heck, neither will the iPhone 6. It's not all about hardware, the software that goes with it is just as important.

Yeah well more features need more ram so I guess as long as apple doesn't do jack with iOS 1gb of ram will be fine. Lame argument. Kind of like saying OS9 is better than OSX because the ram requirement was less.
 

Michael Goff

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Yeah well more features need more ram so I guess as long as apple doesn't do jack with iOS 1gb of ram will be fine. Lame argument. Kind of like saying OS9 is better than OSX because the ram requirement was less.

Wow.

So you're saying that we shouldn't seek a more optimized system but a less optimized system with more random "features" that takes a larger amount of resources because we can?
 

Markyboy81

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Wow.

So you're saying that we shouldn't seek a more optimized system but a less optimized system with more random "features" that takes a larger amount of resources because we can?

Well, battery life certainly won't be an issue so why not?
And some of the 'random' features will be quite useful.
 

BJonson

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Wow.

So you're saying that we shouldn't seek a more optimized system but a less optimized system with more random "features" that takes a larger amount of resources because we can?

Who says its less optimized? You? LOL. Does it really hurt that bad that Samsung makes the best smart phone now? Let me know when IOS gets a file system, widgets, oh and lets you use your own purchased music for a ringtone. Let me know. Until then IOS is fisher price. Don't need these features? Go play with your tonka trucks, I'll drive my rig.
 

fredaroony

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Which is exactly why I left the iPhone. iOS lacks so many functions and features.

Indeed, even in iOS 7 you still cannot attach a file from the phone to an email except to email from the file itself.

I needed to attach a file from one email to a group reply email on my iPad but ended having to do it on my Xperia ZL instead.
 

F123D

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Yeah torrenting, file system and so many clocks.

if we are being real :rolleyes:

Oh, its getting real.. Does this brighten your day?

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Tubamajuba

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Yeah well more features need more ram so I guess as long as apple doesn't do jack with iOS 1gb of ram will be fine. Lame argument. Kind of like saying OS9 is better than OSX because the ram requirement was less.

Like I said later on in my post, more features don't always equal a better product for every consumer. iOS may not "do jack" for you, but it does everything I need it to do. And either way, an increased number of features does not necessarily mean that there will be increased RAM usage. On that note- is Samsung making efficient use of the 2-3 GB of RAM they put in their phones, or are they throwing as much RAM as they can in a (poor) attempt to hide how bloated their TouchWiz skin really is? The HTC One has 2 GB of RAM just as the Galaxy S4 does and it runs like a dream, especially when placed side by side with the S4. And you know what? I'm sure the One would still run smoothly with half the RAM. The S4 certainly isn't slow, but it inexplicably hiccups when transitioning between home screens and coming in and out of apps. There's nothing substantial (if anything) that the S4 can do that the One can't- yet the One performs far better than the S4 with the same amount of RAM.

So what's the point? It doesn't matter how much RAM you have- it's how you use it that counts.

Now, regarding your comment about OS 9 and OS X- what exactly did we get for the increased RAM usage of OS X? A MUCH more stable and advanced operating system compared to OS 9. OS X truly needed and made good use of the extra RAM it required, and I'm just not sure I can say the same about Samsung's phones. Android 4.3 (stock) runs GREAT on phones with just 1 GB of RAM, so forgive me if I'm not applauding Samsung for their decision to include 3 GB. More RAM is never a bad thing, but it certainly doesn't cover up how bloated TouchWiz is compared to Sense 5 and stock Android.

Which is exactly why I left the iPhone. iOS lacks so many functions and features.

Which I certainly understand. I don't feel the need to justify my preference of iOS, and I won't implore you to justify why you prefer Android- but there are valid reasons for choosing both operating systems.
 

weespeed

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Yeah torrenting, file system and so many clocks.

if we are being real :rolleyes:

There is a lot more than that if you're going to be real here.

Just the other day, my wife wanted this old song that was on you tube. It was from a foreign film and the video was part of the film with the song. Looked on itunes etc, no where to get the song with her iPhone 4S.

I took my Nexus went to youtube via freedi youtube downloader and downloaded just the song as mp3. I emailed it to her and guess what.
There was no way of her getting that song onto her iPhone 4S from her email. Clicking on that thing would only play it. So now for her to play that song she has to open her email every time.
Her next option was to open it up in her pogoplug app. Which is better than email but still, can't just download it to her music library.
Only way to do it was for her to download the mp3 and save it to her itunes then sync it. Man what a waste of time.
Really, something so simple and I have to do all that to get one song on to her phone??

Doing this reminded me why I returned my iPhone 5.
Without a jailbreak at the time the iPhone was useless to me.
 

F123D

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Sep 16, 2008
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Which I certainly understand. I don't feel the need to justify my preference of iOS, and I won't implore you to justify why you prefer Android- but there are valid reasons for choosing both operating systems.

Agreed. Which is why I still prefer using an iPad over an Android tablet. Different needs for different situations.
 

Michael Goff

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Well, battery life certainly won't be an issue so why not?
And some of the 'random' features will be quite useful.

Except battery life is an issue. The only reason why most people have good life on an Android phone is that they have bigger batteries than the iPhone.

Who says its less optimized? You? LOL. Does it really hurt that bad that Samsung makes the best smart phone now? Let me know when IOS gets a file system, widgets, oh and lets you use your own purchased music for a ringtone. Let me know. Until then IOS is fisher price. Don't need these features? Go play with your tonka trucks, I'll drive my rig.

There is no best smartphone. There might be a best one for your needs, but that doesn't make it the best period. And I don't personally care about what others use anyway. Then we go to the idea of it being less optimized and how I can possibly know. Android id less optimized because it is the Windows of the mobile world. You cant rightly optimize when you have to be able to work on every chipset out there.
 

Markyboy81

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Oct 30, 2011
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Except battery life is an issue. The only reason why most people have good life on an Android phone is that they have bigger batteries than the iPhone.

This doesn't really make sense. Surely if most people have good battery life on android it's not an issue? The galaxy s4 lasts a whole day with moderate to heavy use and the note 2 lasts even longer. Plus they both have removable batteries anyway,even if it were an issue.
 

Michael Goff

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This doesn't really make sense. Surely if most people have good battery life on android it's not an issue? The galaxy s4 lasts a whole day with moderate to heavy use and the note 2 lasts even longer. Plus they both have removable batteries anyway,even if it were an issue.

It is an issue if people want a smaller Android device.
 

maximus96

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i have a feeling if the 5S shows up next week with a 0.2" increase in screen size in the same casing and a pretty major ppi bump, there will be heaps of praises and not considered a mere "spec bump"...since it will be the new perfect screen size...now if the 5S case gets narrower and thinner while making the screen bigger and higher ppi, *gasp*...
 
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