Do not get your iPhone 7 wet

[Mlrollin91]

Depth is no joke. I've seen some shallow blackouts by free divers in 15feet while lobstering.

I really do like having steel 100s @ 3500psi on my back when under.

Yeah, I can get to about 12ft and last about 3 seconds down there before I need to come back up. It kills my ears. (Thats how deep my pool is). About a year ago a screw came out of the drain cover and it took me an hour to get it back in because I could only go down in such short bursts to tighten it up; like 1/8 turn per attempt.

But I wonder if the barometer is already recording that data, but only Apple knows about it. I guess we will find out when people start running the diagnostics at the Genius Bar and pay attention. There is a barometer tab already.

 

[caelius]

Yeah my issue isn't with weather they cover it or not, I'm just disappointed in the quality of this feature that they are advertising as a selling point of the phone. It's rated to be in 1 meter of water for 30 minutes but not 6 inches of water for 5 seconds.

Given that there are tons of videos on YouTube, showing people who go (scuba-)diving with their 7, it seems to be way more water resistant than Apple has ever claimed. Of course that doesn't mean that there are no defective units...
Also, dropping the phone is probably going to be pretty problematic, as that could severely impact water resistance due to minor bends etc

 

[eoblaed]

Better yet, don't DROP your phone.

The impact may have degraded the water seal also.

Exactly.

Theres'a huge difference between 'getting it wet', and 'dropping it onto a porcelain surface'.

They can get wet just fine. IP67 covers dust and water ... it doesn't cover blunt force trauma.

 

[s15119]

Maybe water resistant but not urine resistant.

All this drama. Don't drop your phone in a toilet. If you do, you have no one to blame but your self. End of story. Good night.

 

[Applejuiced]

As mentioned throughout this thread they could use the accelerometer and barometer. Easy.

And obviously no one is recovering a phone that went down 35ft in under 30 minutes. You would need scuba gear.

The current software and hardware on the device are not designed to monitor such incidents as water or user damage.
And I doubt they want to get into it at all.

 

[Mlrollin91]

The current software and hardware on the device are not designed to monitor such incidents as water or user damage.
And I doubt they want to get into it at all.

How do we know? Apple already tests the barometer/accelerometer when you run a Genius Bar diagnostic. Its very well possible that it can read g-force and pressure.

 

[Applejuiced]

How do we know? Apple already tests the barometer/accelerometer when you run a Genius Bar diagnostic. Its very well possible that it can read g-force and pressure.

Lol
Ok.
Testing functionality and having something actively monitor, save and record incidents for later retrieval is totally different.
Why is it so hard to understand that if you get your device shorted out because of water damage its on you.

 

[Mlrollin91]

Lol
Ok.
Testing functionality and having something actively monitor, save and record incidents for later retrieval is totally different.
Why is it so hard to understand that if you get your device shorted out because of water damage its on you.

Because an iPhone can easily come with a faulty seal or gasket that is not the users fault. Apple isn't perfect. The machines that make the iPhones aren't perfect. Defects can occur and the user should not be out because of a defect.

 

[Applejuiced]

Because an iPhone can easily come with a faulty seal or gasket that is not the users fault. Apple isn't perfect. The machines that make the iPhones aren't perfect. Defects can occur and the user should not be out because of a defect.

That's why you try not to get it wet.
You're arguing with people in case and if maybe your iphone has a faulty seal?

 

[Mlrollin91]

That's why you try not to get it wet.
You're arguing with people in case and if maybe your iphone has a faulty seal?

And as I've said. Im treating my 7Plus just like its any other previous iPhone I've owned. But its not an argument per se, but an actual valid issue with Apple claiming no warranty on any water damage whatsoever yet giving it a IP67 rating.

 

[Steve686]

Well, here I have answered one of my own questions. Via Apple's site.

1. iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.

 

[Applejuiced]

And as I've said. Im treating my 7Plus just like its any other previous iPhone I've owned. But its not an argument per se, but an actual valid issue with Apple claiming no warranty on any water damage whatsoever yet giving it a IP67 rating.

That's the way it is.
I on the other hand will continue to take care of my 7 plus and make sure it doesn't get wet. If it accidentally gets wet and survives I'll be glad to have some kind of water resistance. If it gets wet and shorts out I will not blame the phone or Apple.

 

[eoblaed]

It appears that putting your phone in leaves is bad, too:

 

[Gathomblipoob]

It appears that putting your phone in leaves is bad, too:

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Well, it does look like "fall".

 

[vince730]

You noted that the inside of the SIM tray was wet when you examined the phone. By chance, did you ever examine that area when you first received the phone?

I say that because my JB 7+, which came with the new SIM for my account already preinsfalled, was slightly non-flush and sticking out at the time of unboxing. Noticed it was sitting weird and removed it with a paper clip, put it back and now it is flush as I would expect. Had I not noticed this and gotten the phone wet, I feel like mine might have suffered a similar fate as yours.

The saying goes a chain is only as strong as the weakest link. Or, water protection on an iP7 is only as good as the rubber gasket seal (on a user-removable covering that provides direct access to all of the internals of the device)

 

[ZipZap]

So I dropped it in the toilet and it was fully submerged in water for 5 seconds. Wiped it off and it was working ok. The screen started to go directly to sleep and wouldn't let me unlock the phone. Went to a black screen, and then a restore to itunes screen. Then it got extremely hot until it finally went dead and never came back on. Left it off overnight and tried to plug it in but still nothing. Not charging or being recognized by the computer. I took my SIM card out to put it in my old phone and the tray was wet. I'm guessing that water got into the phone and could not get out because of the water resistance. Now I have to pay $99 and wait for them to even get a replacement phone in stock. Definietly accidental damage and my fault but the water resistance of this is disappointing. Apple just called while I was finishing this post to let me know the replacement is in stock. 2 days isn't bad to wait I guess.

How is that accidental damage. The IP7 failed to live up to the claims of water resistance. The bottom of a toilet bowl is 1/3 a meter in depth. They should replace it no charge.
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Well, here I have answered one of my own questions. Via Apple's site.

1. iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.

If this is true then they should not be able to advertise water resistance as a feature.

 

[masotime]

Now I have to pay $99 and wait for them to even get a replacement phone in stock. Definietly accidental damage and my fault but the water resistance of this is disappointing. Apple just called while I was finishing this post to let me know the replacement is in stock. 2 days isn't bad to wait I guess.

Did you actually visit an Apple Store? Did you try explaining that a drop of 5 seconds in a toilet shouldn't cause water damage? This really should be covered by Apple, even if it is not in black and white. It's simply good customer service.

 

[Taco1933]

Well, here I have answered one of my own questions. Via Apple's site.

1. iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.

And this is the same with EVERYTHING. I've got a decent Swiss watch (as far as Swiss watches go). I'm supposed to send it in every few years or so to get it serviced and replace the gaskets. Also, if I ever drop it, I'm supposed to send it in to ensure the case wasn't damaged.

Phones tend to get dropped. Water resistance is more of. A backup plan than something to be relied upon. Something as small as dropping it in the toilet could cause enough damage to allow water in. The phone is water resistant, not drop resistant.

 

[dk001]

Given that there are tons of videos on YouTube, showing people who go (scuba-)diving with their 7, it seems to be way more water resistant than Apple has ever claimed. Of course that doesn't mean that there are no defective units...
Also, dropping the phone is probably going to be pretty problematic, as that could severely impact water resistance due to minor bends etc

However that makes you wonder why the went with a 7 rating vs. an 8.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Well, here I have answered one of my own questions. Via Apple's site.

1. iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.

Apple Watch's IPX7 rating isn't a permanent condition either, yet they've been replacing water-damaged AWs under the standard warranty.

 

[Rootus]

Except, Apple states that water damage isn't covered under the warranty. They may as well have not even given it the rating since they won't stand behind it.

Agreed. If you won't warranty it, you should not be able to claim it in your specs.

 

[Steve686]

Apple Watch's IPX7 rating isn't a permanent condition either, yet they've been replacing water-damaged AWs under the standard warranty.

Yep. I had an Apple Watch replaced a few months in with no hit to my AppleCare.

 

[Riley0818]

Apple Watch's IPX7 rating isn't a permanent condition either, yet they've been replacing water-damaged AWs under the standard warranty.

Because the last thing on Earth they want is anyone unhappy after buying the insanely overpriced watch.

iPhones though? Puh-leeeze. They can't build them fast enough. They might even want to lose a few over this, that way when the 8 comes out they can "capture" them back.

The watch? Once people decide it's not worth owning, they probably aren't coming back. They will bend over backwards to keep watch folk happy. It is what it is.

 

[Applejuiced]

Agreed. If you won't warranty it, you should not be able to claim it in your specs.

Where's the law that states that?

 

[Riley0818]

Where's the law that states that?

It's part of the same subsection that says Apple must be flawless, and that because we spend money we deserve whatever we buy to be perfect or else we're entitled to exchange it until it is!

Duh!