Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)

[Roadstar]

Yes but Android phones get desperate security updates for apps now don't they. Apple just tends to do them in one big go.

Google has indeed been moving more and more stuff from core Android to Google Play Services, which updates through the Play Store and supports a wide range of versions (it wasn't long ago when they finally dropped 2.3). As long as the vulnerable component is under the Google Play Services umbrella, patching it won't be a problem. However, there are times when the vulnerability is in a component that's still bundled with the core Android itself, and in those cases an OS update is needed, and depending on the phone it could take quite a while or never appear at all.

 

[v0lume4]

Yikes.

Getting things back on track here -- let's take a quick assessment of where we're all at. What's your current daily driver, and are you interested in the iPhone X? If not, what phone does pique your interest?

I have a Nexus 6P. Undecided on the X. Great design, but really don't want to give up Android -- waiting to see the Pixel 2 XL announcement.

 

[MRU]

Yikes.

Getting things back on track here -- let's take a quick assessment of where we're all at. What's your current daily driver, and are you interested in the iPhone X? If not, what phone does pique your interest?

I have a Nexus 6P. Undecided on the X. Great design, but really don't want to give up Android -- waiting to see the Pixel 2 XL announcement.

Yeah the Pixel XL 2 announcements are the only thing that will likely stop me pre-ordering the X.

 

[widgeteer]

Yikes.

Getting things back on track here -- let's take a quick assessment of where we're all at. What's your current daily driver, and are you interested in the iPhone X? If not, what phone does pique your interest?

I have a Nexus 6P. Undecided on the X. Great design, but really don't want to give up Android -- waiting to see the Pixel 2 XL announcement.

Note 8 is my daily. Definitely ordering the X. It's impossible for me to not purchase the first new iPhone form factor in 3 years.

 

[tbayrgs]

Yikes.

Getting things back on track here -- let's take a quick assessment of where we're all at. What's your current daily driver, and are you interested in the iPhone X? If not, what phone does pique your interest?

I have a Nexus 6P. Undecided on the X. Great design, but really don't want to give up Android -- waiting to see the Pixel 2 XL announcement.

Daily driver is a 7 Plus and sticking with it, not getting the X, nor any other phone this year. I still love my Apple Watch and switching to a potentially better Android phone yet losing the Apple Watch is a net loss so for the first time since the original iPhone, I’m keeping a single phone for more than a year.

 

[Roadstar]

Getting things back on track here -- let's take a quick assessment of where we're all at. What's your current daily driver, and are you interested in the iPhone X? If not, what phone does pique your interest?

I’m currently using my iPhone 7. I swapped the main SIM from my OnePlus 5 back when I lost quite a bit of trust in OnePlus after seeing how they handled the Secure Box issue. Now with the OP5 sitting with its Bluetooth disabled (which in my use equals to severely crippled) thanks to the unpatched BlueBorne vulnerability, it’s furthermore relegated in the backup status. I’m currently waiting on details about Apple Pay in Finland (which is promised by the end of the year) before making any decisions, but if my bank is supported, I’m quite likely to get the 8 or the 8 Plus if camera reviews indicate a real improvement from the somewhat disappointing 7. X is interesting design-wise, but with the pricing and it being a 1st gen Apple product, I think I’ll wait for reports about how well FaceID replaces TouchID in real use.

I’ll also check the Pixel 2 announcement, but there are the questions of availability and in my use the ecosystem issue with Android Wear and Android TV both being worse experiences than their Apple counterparts.

 

[v0lume4]

Sounds like there are generally warm receptions to the iPhone X here (except for the price, ha!). I'll tell you what I've been thinking lately -- it'd be nice to go back to a smaller phone. The iPhone X is only marginally bigger than the standard iPhone 8. I've been rocking a Nexus 6P, and the huge display is wonderful, but from time to time I'll pick up my old, tiny iPhone 5 and think "this is nice."

I'm looking at either the iPhone X or the Pixel 2 XL. Regardless of which I purchase, I'm planning on keeping it for about three years. While I find the price for the X ridiculous, and IMO a bad value, I figure that if I get three years+ use out of it, I've gotten my money's worth. If it doesn't last that long, I'll probably feel so burned that I'll go back to a flip phone and get out of the smartphone game forever.

 

[mib1800]

Sounds like there are generally warm receptions to the iPhone X here (except for the price, ha!). I'll tell you what I've been thinking lately -- it'd be nice to go back to a smaller phone. The iPhone X is only marginally bigger than the standard iPhone 8. I've been rocking a Nexus 6P, and the huge display is wonderful, but from time to time I'll pick up my old, tiny iPhone 5 and think "this is nice."

I'm looking at either the iPhone X or the Pixel 2 XL. Regardless of which I purchase, I'm planning on keeping it for about three years. While I find the price for the X ridiculous, and IMO a bad value, I figure that if I get three years+ use out of it, I've gotten my money's worth. If it doesn't last that long, I'll probably feel so burned that I'll go back to a flip phone and get out of the smartphone game forever.

3 years use? When next year comes, you'll want the next phone....hehe.
it is just self consolation for paying high price for the X

 

[v0lume4]

3 years use? When next year comes, you'll want the next phone....hehe.
it is just self consolation for paying high price for the X

Haha! Right?

Nah, in all honesty I'm not interested in upgrading phones every year. My previous phone I kept for four years (iPhone 5). My current phone (got it used on eBay) I've had since March, but I only purchased it as an interim until I purchase another flagship. My iPhone was standing on it's last legs. So if I do purchase a flagship this year, I'll probably keep it for three years. Two at an absolute minimum.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Yikes.

Getting things back on track here -- let's take a quick assessment of where we're all at. What's your current daily driver, and are you interested in the iPhone X? If not, what phone does pique your interest?

I have a Nexus 6P. Undecided on the X. Great design, but really don't want to give up Android -- waiting to see the Pixel 2 XL announcement.

Mine is currently an iPhone 6S. It's the most reliable smartphone I've had to date and I'm so glad I didn't go for the iPhone 7 last September. Saved £240 and it's got identical performance. I just hope iOS 11 doesn't screw it up or i'll be in the Apple Store getting them to sort it out.

My brother in law in a jammy git. He upgraded to a Galaxy S7 in February this year and has had many issues with it and his network (O2). They handled his complaint pretty badly at the start so he's been in an ongoing complaint for about 4 weeks. On Friday they sent him a brand new boxed S8 as a gesture of good will and this apparently won't affect his next upgrade date of February 2019! I need to find something to complain about lol.

 

[Tsepz]

I don't think many could have predicted that Apple of all companies could release a phone with a notch which obstructs the content and serves no purpose other than to scream "Hey look at me. I am an iPhone"

It doesn't really look that good in daily use but I guess we could get used to it

This is just sad

So literally, the 'all screen (with notch protruding)' design is literally just for looks, it serves no extra purpose, it even had them having to get rid of yet another useful feature (TouchID), all for an experience that will be inferior to an iPhone7 Plus or 8 Plus, while being more expensive!? I love it!

Apple is having a laugh, a part of me is loving this as it is challenging the apologists to come up with ever more pathetic explanations and excuses

I think I will advise my parents to both go with the 8 Plus, it just makes more sense, the X continues to make me question what the point is as it really shows no real benefit, but a whole lot of Compromise.

I may just start calling the iPhone X the iCompromise X, because the list keeps growing

 

[Shanghaichica]

Mine is currently an iPhone 6S. It's the most reliable smartphone I've had to date and I'm so glad I didn't go for the iPhone 7 last September. Saved £240 and it's got identical performance. I just hope iOS 11 doesn't screw it up or i'll be in the Apple Store getting them to sort it out.

My brother in law in a jammy git. He upgraded to a Galaxy S7 in February this year and has had many issues with it and his network (O2). They handled his complaint pretty badly at the start so he's been in an ongoing complaint for about 4 weeks. On Friday they sent him a brand new boxed S8 as a gesture of good will and this apparently won't affect his next upgrade date of February 2019! I need to find something to complain about lol.

Not quite the same but my husband is on 3. He's very clumsy and always ends up breaking his phones be they Samsung or iPhones. He got the S6 edge plus in towards the end of 2015. By the middle of 2016 he'd smashed the screen and damaged it to the point where it would no longer switch on. He also damaged the charging port and it wouldn't work anymore and then wireless charging stopped working. All of these issues did not happen at the same time. They were over a period of months and he refused to do anything about them despite having insurance. Anyway eventually it got too much so I contacted the insurance company (3). They said they didn't have any S6 edge plus in the colour he hadin stock so they offered him an S6 edge plus in gold or of an S7 edge in black. He picked the S7 edge. Maybe I should start smashing my phones up and see if I can get an upgrade lol

 

[Tsepz]

I think it's because they realize the 8 won't be a huge seller so they're doing everything to shore up it's numbers. Amazing that you can still preorder and get it launch day. The last time I saw this was the 3GS, and by the end of the day it was sold out. Guess everyone is waiting for the X.

Yep. Look despite my views on the X, I believe Apple are going to CREAM it with that phone, the sales numbers and profit margin on that phone will be astronomical, it's a great time to be an Apple Exec the lucky sods!

If I was a hardcore Apple fan I'd also get the X, it does shine the way forward for future iPhones, I am sure the iPhone 9 and 9 Plus will use the X's design, but with all the compromises and mistakes fixed. I see the X as a Concept being sold to the public, Apple giving us an idea of the direction their headed in for the next few years with the X.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Yep. Look despite my views on the X, I believe Apple are going to CREAM it with that phone, the sales numbers and profit margin on that phone will be astronomical, it's a great time to be an Apple Exec the lucky sods!

If I was a hardcore Apple fan I'd also get the X, it does shine the way forward for future iPhones, I am sure the iPhone 9 and 9 Plus will use the X's design, but with all the compromises and mistakes fixed. I see the X as a Concept being sold to the public, Apple giving us an idea of the direction their headed in for the next few years with the X.

I do like Apple a hell of a lot but I also know what else is out there and I can also weigh up the device it self and see if it's worth the asking price.

 

[Tsepz]

I do like Apple a hell of a lot but I also know what else is out there and I can also weigh up the device it self and see if it's worth the asking price.

Yeah, but you're sensible, so you don't count as hardcore

I'm talking about people who will buy it simply due to it being the top and most forward looking iPhone, the people who value sticking out the crowd and who will inevitably look down upon any iPhone that still has a home button, "it still has a home button!? That's like, sooo 2016" they will say.

I'd totally be that guy if Apple opened iOS more until then iPad will remain my only iOS device to continue dabbling on iOS on the side.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I'm talking about people who will buy it simply due to it being the top and most forward looking iPhone, the people who value sticking out the crowd and who will inevitably look down upon any iPhone that still has a home button, "it still has a home button!? That's like, sooo 2016" they will say.

The type of people with that mentality are geeks that don't get laid so it's swings and roundabouts lol.

 

[Tsepz]

The type of people with that mentality are geeks that don't get laid so it's swings and roundabouts lol.

LOL!!!!

Oh come on, their X will totally get them all the ladies, don't be jelly!

 

[Radon87000]

Yep. Look despite my views on the X, I believe Apple are going to CREAM it with that phone, the sales numbers and profit margin on that phone will be astronomical, it's a great time to be an Apple Exec the lucky sods!

If I was a hardcore Apple fan I'd also get the X, it does shine the way forward for future iPhones, I am sure the iPhone 9 and 9 Plus will use the X's design, but with all the compromises and mistakes fixed. I see the X as a Concept being sold to the public, Apple giving us an idea of the direction their headed in for the next few years with the X.

I don’t think the 9 and 9 Plus get this design. Those will still be the LCD models and have the same design. The iPhone X is another pricing tier for the iPhone like the iPad Pro. I am starting to reach the limits of my budget with it unfortunately.

I can’t even go a Android as that ruins my Watch.
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Yeah, but you're sensible, so you don't count as hardcore

I'm talking about people who will buy it simply due to it being the top and most forward looking iPhone, the people who value sticking out the crowd and who will inevitably look down upon any iPhone that still has a home button, "it still has a home button!? That's like, sooo 2016" they will say.

I'd totally be that guy if Apple opened iOS more until then iPad will remain my only iOS device to continue dabbling on iOS on the side.

Actually the response for the 8 have been lukewarm so far. People will get the X because that’s the only model which is an upgrade not because that’s he newest iPhone. . The iPhone 8,9 will not see upgrades on that level next year. The spotlight will be on the 6.3 inch IPhone Plus.

 

[apolloa]

Wow....just wow....how very smug of you.
Speaking as an American......I don't think anyone thought the world loved us before 9/11
Don't use 9/11 to make your smug little points little person.

Well, sorry but those were the words from an American we have at work currently who is temporarily living here. And I have not made that up, so unless she is unique in her thinking, because she said others thought so too, then it is something 'some' Americans believe?
Nothing smug about it.
So I will apologise for any offence caused, but these were the words of an American.

 

[Puddled]

Well, if you calculate price per properly supported (i.e. gets software and security updates) year, even with their current prices iPhones can actually be cheaper than many Android counterparts.

Oh I don't know about that. My S6 is on its 3rd major OS update (lollipo- marshmallow-Nougat) is still getting security updates over 2-1/2 years after it was first released. Plus it has a two year warranty, not 12 months as per apple. Anyway, most updates to Android are in the play services.

 

[apolloa]

Nope. You can choose another watch. Again, there are choices you can make if you feel Apple is over priced.

So your solution is simply shut up and just sell all your Apple gear then? Even if some have been presents like the Watch, I guess that doesn't matter and sentimental value shouldn't count?
I see many other threads in the iPhone section about the over pricing.. and they don't want to sell all their Apple stuff either.

 

[Puddled]

......It doesn't even include fast charger or wireless charging at that price. Add in the screen protector,a good case and a travel pouch and you end up at $1100 easily. This is one heck of an expensive phone....

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...-iphone-8-x-fast-charging-usb-c-power-charger


Wait, wot? You need to spend even more dosh for fast charging? It isnt just a simple adaptive charger like Samsung bundle , you need a bigger plug AND cable?

Man, that's just offensive when you are paying 7,8,900 (or a 1000!) Sobs for a phone.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I don’t think the 9 and 9 Plus get this design. Those will still be the LCD models and have the same design. The iPhone X is another pricing tier for the iPhone like the iPad Pro. I am starting to reach the limits of my budget with it unfortunately.

I can’t even go a Android as that ruins my Watch.
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Actually the response for the 8 have been lukewarm so far. People will get the X because that’s the only model which is an upgrade not because that’s he newest iPhone. . The iPhone 8,9 will not see upgrades on that level next year. The spotlight will be on the 6.3 inch IPhone Plus.

I don't know maybe if you're coming from an older iPhone say the 6 or lower it's a decent upgrade.

Maybe people just want to get the best and they just figure they'll stick it on a monthly plan.

I'm just going to get one of the gear watches. The gear sport when it comes out.

The Apple Watch 3 is not available with my carrier anyway so that's out.

 

[Roadstar]

Oh I don't know about that. My S6 is on its 3rd major OS update (lollipo- marshmallow-Nougat) is still getting security updates over 2-1/2 years after it was first released. Plus it has a two year warranty, not 12 months as per apple. Anyway, most updates to Android are in the play services.

Looks like Samsung has improved with the update period. However, based on my experiences when owning the S7 Edge, there are still occasional delays with getting updates especially for my region (NEE) and especially with fixes for major vulnerabilities those delays are quite scary. I’m under the impression that they’ve stepped up their game from the S8 onwards, but I’d really like to see how they perform when Oreo rollouts start and the S9 comes out. Especially for NEE security updates were halted for a couple of months when the first regions got Nougat but we were still waiting.

 

[maflynn]

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